if my opponet attacks with a monster and i actvate magic cylinder first then chain gravity bind does he lose life points or the other way around

"Gravity Bind" would resolve first, so if the monster is Level 4 or higher the attack will be stopped. Then "Magic Cylinder" will resolve, and since the targeted monster is still face-up on the field, it will still inflict damage, although it will not negate the attack because there is no longer an attack to negate.

Are you sure about that Tyrin Claw?

Quite certain.

i think your wrong if there is no attack for magic cylinder to negate the timing of magic cylinder would now be wrong and magic cylinder would be destroyed

if there was no attack made magic cylinders effect cant be activated and since the chain works in reverse order ther was no attack made if you disagree please give me a link were you found that info

Negating an attack isn't "Magic Cylinder"'s only effect. Just because it cannot complete one of its effects does not negate the rest.

"Magic Cylinder"'s timing was never lost. It was activated at the right time. The attack was declared. The attack never made it past the Battle Step, but "Magic Cylinder" doesn't care about that--it resolves before the Battle Step ends.

You're basing your opinion on the incorrect fact that "Gravity Bind" prevented the attack from ever happening. As I said, the attack was still declared, and nothing prevented that. All "Gravity Bind" did was hold the attack back from continuing to the Damage Step.

"Magic Cylinder" continues to resolve because it never lost its timing and its target is still face-up on the field, giving it a damage value.

Finally, as a judge I am not required to show you links to every single thing I tell you. Now, if I had one, I would give it to you, but this particular ruling went out across the judge list which you do not have access to unless you are a judge--in which case you would not need my help.

negating the attack is what triggers the activation if theres no attack magic cylinder cant acctivate the attack is what allows you to activate the card


i activate bait doll on magic cylinder a face down trap card it is destroyed and sent to the grave yardbecause the timing of it is incorrect
what makes this any diffrent please give me a link to back up your information

i understand you dont have to give me a link but it would be helpful and yes gravity bind does stop the attact all together

Negating an attack is not a trigger, it is an effect. The declaration of the attack is the trigger that "Magic Cylinder" uses. And there WAS AN ATTACK. "GRAVITY BIND" DOES NOT ERASE ALL TRACES OF THE ATTACK. "GRAVITY BIND" PREVENTS THE ATTACK FROM REACHING THE DAMAGE STEP.

"Bait Doll" is a totally different situation. Bringing it up here has absolutely no consequence on the situation at hand.

I reiterate myself. "Gravity Bind" does not prevent the declaration of the attack it was activated in response to. It will only prevent that attack from reaching the Damage Step. Any further attacks cannot be declared. "Magic Cylinder" only cares that the attack was declared (WHICH IT WAS) and that its target is still face-up on the field (WHICH IT IS).

And for the second, and hopefully final time, THIS RULING WAS SENT OUT ACROSS THE JUDGE LIST. THE JUDGE LIST IS NOT A FORUM FOR ALL UNINVITED GUESTS TO SEE. ONLY JUDGES CAN SEE RULINGS ON THE JUDGE LIST.

I think the words you are looking for are....

"Its a lie. The evidence has been falsified. I never broke the law. I am the law. I AM THE LAW"

- Stallone - Judge Dredd (1995).

Raymond Was Postig on those last two under my name but anyways


I tried telling hem that it did not matter wich way you actvated them. Becuase the monster still declared a attack and it is no different then his monster attacking and i actvate mirror force then chain gravity bind even tho gravity bind prevents them from attacking there monsters still dies because it has declared a attack

ANOTHER EXAMPLE
I go to attack and you actvate sakhuri armor and i chain gravity bind does my moster still die Yes because it was attacking even tho gratity bind prevents it from attacking...why because all i needed to do to actvate the card was attack




ANOTHER EXAMPLE
i attack and you actvate negate attack,, I chain and actvate gravity bind my monsters can not attck because the batle phase ends even tho they cant attack from gravity bind.....Why because all i needed to do to actvate the card was attack


LAST EXAMPLE
If i have Gravekeepers Servant active on the field "and you try to attack" but before you do you got to send one card of the top of you deck to the grave yard .
Ok now if your attack gets negated do you get the card back from the grave yard.
No, Why, because you had to do it before you attacked and even tho you attack was negated you still attacked you see what i am saying it dosent matter if a attack is negated or something prevented you from attacking you still attaked it was just was stoped(just like cesfire there dosent have to be any face down monster for the effec to work it is part of the effect it does not need it to completly work)