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Title: magical thorn


Burning Soler flare - July 18, 2005 03:25 AM (GMT)
if i jot morphing jar 2 on the field and he flips an i actvate thorn do to the jars effect does my opponet lose 500 points for each card that goes to the grave yard or are the cards all sent at once or something plz explane

and if i play heavey storm so on and so on what happenes plz explane

Tyrin Claw - July 18, 2005 03:45 AM (GMT)
The cards picked up for "Morphing Jar #2" are never added to the hand, so "Magical Thorn" will do nothing.

"Heavy Storm" would destroy "Magical Thorn"...not much happens there. o_O

Burning Soler flare - July 18, 2005 04:22 AM (GMT)
I MENT CARD DESTRUCTION


AND JAR 2 SAYS THIS

flip:return all monster cards on the field to thier respictive decks and shuffle them. You and your opponet then PICK UP CARDS untill you both have the same number of monster cards (level 4 lower) that were returned to each deck. special summon the monsters on the field face down defnce postion. ANY OTHER CARDS PICKED UP ARE DISCARDED TO THE GRAVEYARD

AND THE THORN SAYS THIS

When you opponets card(s) are discarded to the Graveyar, inflict 500 points of damage to his\her life points for each card that was discarded



it does not say that they have to be in there hand just discarded because what would be the point of thron then

if they had to be in there hand then it would say for each crd that is discarded from there hand not just when your opponets card(s) are discarded


This time i think you are wrong

i think thorns effect applys to these

discarding for cards like ragiki break,tribe,ext
card destruction,ribbing golbin,ext
morphing jar 2,,graceful chairty,,ext
any time that my opponet discards a card to there grave yard

Tyrin Claw - July 18, 2005 02:19 PM (GMT)
"Magical Thorn" reads as such:
QUOTE
When your opponent's card(s) in his/her hand are discarded to the Graveyard, inflict 500 points of damage to his/her Life Points for each card that was discarded.

Emphasis on the bolded text. And this text is straight from Netrep so it's totally up-to-date.

Burning Soler flare - July 18, 2005 07:25 PM (GMT)
I have the card and it says word for word


TP5-Magical Thorn

When you opponets card(s) are discarded to the Graveyar, inflict 500 points of damage to his\her life points for each card that was discarded

so i must have a miss print if what you say is true but ill look it up

Burning Soler flare - July 18, 2005 07:31 PM (GMT)
so i guse i do have a miss print but here is the rulings on magical thorn


If you have two copies of "Magical Thorn" active on the field, your opponent will take 1000 points of damage whenever they discard a card. If you have three copies, they will take 1500 points of damage.


]The effect of "Magical Thorn" is applied when the opponent discards during the End Phase to make their hand size 6, discarding for the cost of cards such as "Tribute to the Doomed", "Cost Down", or "Judgment of Anubis", and discarding for card effects such as "Delinquent Duo", "Confiscation", "Robbin' Goblin" "Morphing Jar"and "Mefist the Infernal General".

The effect of "Magical Thorn" is NOT applied when you send cards from your hand to the Graveyard for things such as a Tribute for a Ritual Spell Card, a Fusion Material Monster, or the effects of cards like "Chosen One" or "Gravekeeper's Watcher".


The effect of "Magical Thorn" is NOT applied when cards in your hand are destroyed by "Chain Destruction" or when cards are sent from the Deck to Graveyard by the effect of "Painful Choice". It is also NOT applied when cards in your hand are removed from play by the effect of "Lightforce Sword".


The effect of "Magical Thorn" is only applied when a card is discarded from your opponent's hand to your opponent's Graveyard. So if they have your card in your hand by the effect of "Exchange" or "Graverobber" and they discard it, they do not take any damage from the effect of "Magical Thorn".


If the opponent discards from their hand as a cost to activate a card like "Cost Down" and you chain "Magical Thorn" they will not take any damage. If your opponent activates a card where discarding is part of the effect of the card, such as "Card Destruction", and you chain "Magical Thorn", they WILL take damage because the effect of "Magical Thorn" will be active before the discarding effect resolves.


"Magical Thorn" deals damage per card, so if the opponent activates "Graceful Charity" they will take 1000 points of damage when they discard 2 cards. If they discard 5 cards to activate "Final Destiny" they take 2500 points of damage.


Even though "Magical Thorn" does damage per card discarded, it deals the damage as one lump sum for effects like "Dark Room of Nightmare".


"Necrovalley" does not negate the effect of "Magical Thorn".


The effect of "Magical Thorn" inflicts damage after an effect resolves. So if the effect of "Morphing Jar" is activated, the damage will be dealt after the new cards are drawn. This means if your opponent has 100 Life Points, and you have "Magical Thorn" active on the field but only one card left in your Deck, you will lose the Duel before the effect of "Magical Thorn" can deal damage to reduce your opponent's Life Points to 0.


"Magical Thorn" will deal damage between steps in a chain. For example, both you and your opponent have 100 Life Points remaining, your opponent has two cards in their hand and you have "Magical Thorn" active on the field and a Set "Mind Crush". It is your opponent's turn and they activate "Final Flame" to deal 600 points of damage to you, and you chain "Mind Crush" calling the "Sinister Serpent" you know they have in their hand. After Step 2 ("Mind Crush") resolves, the effect of "Magical Thorn" deals 500 points of damage to your opponent and you win the Duel before Step 1, "Final Flame", resolves.


[Re: Barrel Behind the Door] You cannot activate "Barrel Behind the Door" against a Continuous Spell or Trap Card, an Equip Spell Card, or a Field Spell Card. So you cannot activate it against "Magical Thorn", "Dark Snake Syndrome", "Wave-Motion Cannon", or "Black Pendant".


[Re: Necrovalley] "Necrovalley" will NOT negate effects that are activated when a card is sent TO the Graveyard or that activate IN the Graveyard or that count cards in the Graveyard. So it will NOT negate the effects of "Sangan", "Witch of the Black Forest", "Black Pendant", "Giant Rat", "Mystic Tomato", "Kuriboh", "Graceful Charity", "Sinister Serpent", "Marie the Fallen One", "Buster Blader", "Shadow Ghoul", "Helpoemer", "Sword of Deep-Seated", "Vampire Lord", "Coffin Seller", and "Magical Thorn".

Tom - July 18, 2005 07:39 PM (GMT)
It is a missprint. This is the actual card text:

Magical Thorn
(Tournament Pack 5)
When your opponent's card(s) in his/her hand are discarded to the Graveyard, inflict 500 points of damage to his/her Life Points for each card that was discarded.


http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/..._errata_01.aspx

Burning Soler flare - July 18, 2005 07:50 PM (GMT)
and jut because the cards are picked up does ooooo ok i get it now and cool beans i got a tp5 holo misprint is it a common missprint

Tom - July 18, 2005 09:44 PM (GMT)
very common misprint. I even think it was how it was printed on all the cards. At least i know that a couple of people I know who has magical thorn has the same wording as yours.

Tyrin Claw - July 19, 2005 03:37 AM (GMT)
They were probably all printed that way...since I didn't even know it got errata'd. XD




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