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Dragases - March 14, 2005 05:27 AM (GMT)
REBETIKO CORNER

O Bakaras
Apostolos Nikolaidis (written by Panagiotis Toundas)
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Apopse Pia Den Vastaxa
Babis Goles - Agathonas Iakovidis (written by Grigoris Asikis)
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Dragases - March 14, 2005 05:44 AM (GMT)
INTRODUCTION TO REBETIKA

For those looking for more information on this intoxicating style of music...

Matt Barrett's Rebetika

Kritikos's Rebetika

Musiq.com Rebetika Music Website

Rebetiko Online

Spartan - March 15, 2005 01:48 AM (GMT)
Cries from happiness................ :applause:


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Did you know Spartan's are born with the ability to find food by foraging at night? In this case, foraging behind the site to find some interesting things! :)

How much can you load there? Whatever you store there, I can umm....steal at 800 to 1200 kb/sec!

Axx re Dragase, m'erikses stin klepsia! GIA! :drink:

Dragases - March 15, 2005 09:10 AM (GMT)
I'll see how many I can put up at any one time. I'll be uploading every three days or so (to give others time to download as well). Let me know what you think of the songs...

Geia Mas!

:drink:

Spartan - March 16, 2005 04:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dragases @ Mar 15 2005, 05:10 AM)
I'll see how many I can put up at any one time. I'll be uploading every three days or so (to give others time to download as well). Let me know what you think of the songs...

Geia Mas!

:drink:

I liked the songs. Typical raspy rebetiko "I'm in pain" voice, good licks and the usual "she loves me, she loves me not" lyrics. :)

I never heard anythig from this guy before so it was interesting. From the clarity of the recording, I am assuming he is more recent?

'Please, sir, I want some more.'

'What!' said the Dragase in a booming voice. "You want MORE?".


Στην υγεία μας! :drink:

Dragases - March 16, 2005 07:57 AM (GMT)
Born in Constantinople in 1919, Prodromos (Moutafoglou) Tsaousakis was a 40s-60s era laikorebeti. The two songs were off an early 70s album, in the middle of the rebetiko revival; everybody was re-recording the older classics - including the original artists themselves - because the quality of the original recordings wasn't the best. I'm not a big fan of drums in rebetika (unless they are used right - listen to Mouflouzeli), and I absolutely hate electric bouzouki.

Sorry, Spartan. I can only upload two songs comfortably at a time - otherwise I have to sacrifice the quality of the files.

Spartan - March 16, 2005 12:28 PM (GMT)
Two songs ata time?

I have a suprise for you tonight. Because Spartans are better looking and sexier (barf), they find all these "little" things on the net. I will set up an account for ya with 100 megs per month. :smokin:

Look in your in box later.


Στην υγεία μας! :drink:



Dragases - March 16, 2005 01:01 PM (GMT)
Yep, two songs. God-damned Australian cable-internet providers only give each account between 5-10Mb webspace. The competition here is not as wide open as Europe and North America, so we're stuck with a duopoly.

Mate, if you can set that account up, I'll take back everything bad I ever said about Peloponnesians (well, almost - I'd have nothing to say to my koumbaro if I did that). :lol: Though, I must add that I don't recall saying anything bad about Spartans!

:drink:

Spartan - March 17, 2005 03:19 AM (GMT)
Say the word slowly and with reverence....SPARTAN. Doesn't it send chill up and down your back? Don't answer that.....:P

Alright......back to semi seriousness...

Go to the link I have provided below and you will be able to set up and account that allows you 100 megs a month of free downloading. For $10 US, you an get 10 gigs of dowloads a month.


http://www.streamload.com/Roots/Inbox.asp?View=1

Geia mas! :drink:

Lord - March 18, 2005 03:07 PM (GMT)
EHEM...cough cough...can i say something...? can i...?

Ok...*Lord taking hes serious face now...














Guys i HAAAATE REBETIKO...really i just hated....how can you hear such music..... :damn:
I mean "trava tone roufatone..???" tringi tringi...bla bla bla...uff...

likewise Kazantzidis..."the greek voice..." for greeks abroad...KAI DOSTOU KLAMAAAAAAAAAAA..... :drink2: ...UFF again....



dosent anybody hear some Karas or Terzis...? or Sfakianakis...or ok ok...mitropanos???

also if iam to the half of the Chivas Regal ...friends...i do like some MELAS...(ok ok ...iam from SALONICA...I know...)

didnt you hear anything about SKYLADES...? :rolleyes:

Regards


ps...ok i admit i wanted to end this musical feeling in this thread ...and i wanted also to ruin your day... :D

Thermopyles - March 18, 2005 08:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
Guys i HAAAATE REBETIKO...really i just hated....how can you hera such music..... 
I mean "trava tone roufatone..???" tringi tringi...bla bla bla...uff...

likewise Kazantzidis..."the greek voice..." for greeks abroad...KAI DOSTOU KLAMAAAAAAAAAAA.....  ...UFF again....


:rofl: :hahaha: :rofl:


Actually yes Sfakianakis is on my list, good stuff... Rebetiko isn't fopr everyone, but it has soul like no other music. It's the roots of modern Greek music. Just the fact that people could get enough resources to record with in the 20's 30's and 40's is groundbreaking in itself. These are artists that fought through migration, persicutions, jail, hunger, and put that emotion in thier music.

What do they sing about today? 99.9% will be: I love her, she doesn't love me, I'm over her, I'm in love with him he likes someone else, etc etc until our ears klog up with wax to keep it out...

My piont? Pan Metron Ariston

PS hey, that might be my new sig(?)... :doubt: interesting...



Lord - March 18, 2005 10:22 PM (GMT)
Yeap you are right Pan metron ariston...

now serious i hear music depending on my moot...(Gamo ta agglika mou e?) :D

But "Ftiachnome" geting on kefi with greek music ala "skyle"... ;)

from foreign stuff i like the 80s...(my decade)...

but my blood is getting hot REAAALLY HOT WHEN I HEAR SOME PONTIAN LYRA...man...this makes me to a klingon...really...


Regards :drink:

Dragases - March 19, 2005 02:14 AM (GMT)
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What do they sing about today? 99.9% will be: I love her, she doesn't love me, I'm over her, I'm in love with him he likes someone else, etc etc until our ears klog up with wax to keep it out...


The vast majority of songs these days sound as if they've come off the assembly line. No heart, no soul. The rebetes meant what they sang - that's why, 80-odd years later, we're still listening to the songs. You'd be hard-pressed trying to find a "memorable" song from past 15 years... except maybe Antzi Samiou's classic "Ekei Pou Kaigomai Poly" :P

As far as Laika go, I love the 60s/early 70s era stuff - Marinella, Poulopoulos, Koumioti, Sakellariou, Dalaras, Mitropanos, Plessas/Papadopoulos, Kazantzidis. But, as we approached the 80s, the songs became more and more average... and they're still pretty average. Ok, you get the occasional really good zeibekiko, but for the most part...

Spartan - March 19, 2005 06:28 AM (GMT)
Me thinks our rebetika got insulted! :gun2:

Careful cause we always tipsy, womanizing rebetes can turn from this.. :guitar: ..to this.. :mgun: ..after a couple of this.. :drink2:

Baahhh.....if they don't get it....

Gea mas rebetes! :drink:

Thermopyles - March 19, 2005 04:41 PM (GMT)
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Careful cause we always tipsy, womanizing rebetes can turn from this..  ..to this..  ..after a couple of this..

Baahhh.....if they don't get it....

Gea mas rebetes! 



:rofl: :shout: Go Spartan! Wraios!!! :P

Thermopyles - March 20, 2005 02:12 AM (GMT)
@Dragasis

Oreo to "osei exoun ta pola lefta". Mate, I have a request for you! Can you put up "O Trelakias" i "kopela mou xadiara" Tou Moflouzelh. Zwrika kommatakia auta, opa! Spartan should like those ass well.. How do you upload? tell me so I can put up "o teketzhs"...

:drink: to all,

Dragases - March 20, 2005 04:59 AM (GMT)
I've added "O Trelakias" and "To Pitsiriki" for now - I'll put "Kopela Mou Hadiara" on the next run.

Enjoy!

Spartan - March 20, 2005 05:02 AM (GMT)
Thermopyles,

Dragases and I have gone to Streamload as a "facilitator". We are talking in terms of multi-gigs of music.

Are you interested?

Spartan - March 20, 2005 05:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dragases @ Mar 20 2005, 12:59 AM)
I've added "O Trelakias" and "To Pitsiriki" for now - I'll put "Kopela Mou Hadiara" on the next run.

Enjoy!

*looks under keyboard...looks under monitor...looks in pockets*

But oh where oh where are those links? :doubt:


(Actually I know where you store them but others will not know. :P)

Thermopyles - March 20, 2005 05:50 AM (GMT)
thanks guys ;) :D


Spartan - March 20, 2005 04:18 PM (GMT)
The Diaspora of Rebetiko.........this caught my attention.

Apodimi Kompania: Haunting and dark but the minute he opens his mouth it destroys it. I have a similar type of recording by someone who sings a Christmas carol and it sound haunting and dark all the way because of his voice.

Palio Parea: Many have done this abd a much better version.

Fotia: Not bad voice. Her voice is sultry.

Cafe Aman: Good start. I like his voice. Good old rebetiko raspiness. The lyrics were not the greatest. They need to learn that it is hard to build a complex picture and a mood at the same time.

Zotos: The beginning sound interesting trying to lead to somewhere but the latter part sounds like Buddhist monks singing in overtones.

Martha: Like it and the most balanced piece.

Stavros Ksanthakos: They should never EVER sing what hits too far into the heart unless you can do it better. He sounds freaken awful but she does a good job. But the musical ending SUCKED. Do these people have any concept of "mood"?

Most of it is just plain junk.

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Do you guys remember the closing ceremonies of the Olympics? Who was the old man who was singing the invitation to join him at the table? I think it was just before Dalaras.

We need to find or build a house of like minded rebetes (nothing but rebetetika).

Thermopyles - March 20, 2005 10:25 PM (GMT)
@ Spartan

Do you mean Dyonysis Savopoulos? I think he played before Dalaras... Great artist. Top class.

Dragases - March 21, 2005 11:31 AM (GMT)
Hey thermopyles,

I liked the old version of "Teketzis" - Zaharia's singing has attitude. In the newer version, [Agathonas Iakovidis???] could have taken a lesson from Kasimatis in the way he sang it. They're both great, though. Thanks Heaps!

Mate, that 5/4 time is pretty cool. I don't think I've heard many songs played in that time signature...

R

Dragases

Thermopyles - March 22, 2005 12:34 AM (GMT)
Yes the first one has Spiro on the bouzouki and Zaxarias Katsimaths on vocals. The second one is indeed Iacobidhs ;) Not nearly as good, but its a clean recording with a good instrumental that is done in 9/4 instead of the 5/4 as the OG. But the transition back to 5/4 after the insrumental is flawless... :D

Dragases - March 22, 2005 08:31 AM (GMT)
Well, that one will definitely be on my list to learn (eventually).

I've just uploaded "Teketzis" and "Pino Kai Metho", which is another Peristeris number (again with Iakovidis on vocals).

Thermopyles - March 23, 2005 09:54 PM (GMT)
Awwww yeaaah B) I'd never heard "pino kai metho" before... oreo, kefato... no wonder I like Peristeris so much... :D

Spartan - March 24, 2005 05:05 AM (GMT)
If any of you guys are wondering what we are talking about. Dragases changes the songs every so often on the links he provided in the first post of this thread.

Interesting bouzouki in Tekedzis. Never heard it before.

Dragases - March 28, 2005 02:00 AM (GMT)
Hey Guys,

I've just added a few more songs... BTW let me know if there's a particular rebetika artist or song you want to hear and I'll see if I can find it.

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@Spartan

What did you think of the Nikolaidis' rebetika?
"Ston Adi" and "Loulas" rank amongst my favourite albums. They capture the mood of rebetika better than most albums these days.

R

Dragases

Spartan - April 8, 2005 10:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dragases @ Mar 27 2005, 10:00 PM)


@Spartan

What did you think of the Nikolaidis' rebetika?
"Ston Adi" and "Loulas" rank amongst my favourite albums. They capture the mood of rebetika better than most albums these days.

R

Dragases

It was interesting. He has a nasal voice that does not give the "pono kai axx!" of some of the other rebetes.

I really liked Papadatos Proi Proi Me Ti Drosoula album.

Talking about the "axx! exo marazi" gravel voices, I thought that Tsaousakis is UP THERE! LOL!

Now for the winner of the "blues voice"........ Iakovidis takes first place.

Now for some shocking news................I am buying a microphone and I am going to try my my voice acapella. My singing is known to frighten children and crack steel BUT it's not like the old rebetes were known for their great pipes! In fact, I was listening to some Tsitsani live and he sounds like Bob Dylan. Now there is a bar set LOW! LOL!

I have written some stuff when I was feeling in the dumps after my uncle died and I want to hear how it sounds. Now, if I only knew how to play the bouzouki...........

The first sentance of the song dedicated to him (he died from cancer):

Esei pou petages san to pouli,
Pws se'kopsai to mavro spathi

Axx, pos mas trivi giro oi zoi,
pono, pono mai kath'anapnoi

It goes on in it's dark path but I rather not post it.

Anywho.........:hammer:

Geiasas paidia!

:drink:

Spartan - April 8, 2005 10:40 PM (GMT)
thermopyles,

I was listening to "tekedzis" and the bouzouki playing caught my attention. Very different from the "classical way" of playing it.

Thank you for the songs.

Dragases - April 9, 2005 02:45 AM (GMT)
Here are the lyrics to a song that was written by Markos Vamvakaris. I remember reading it in an article years ago and it made such an impression on me, I copied it down. The interesting thing is, he never got around to writing the music for it.

It's dark, but it has a certain eloquence about it (especially in Greek), very poetic.

Markos was a legend...

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Dragases - April 9, 2005 02:56 AM (GMT)
I've just added a few Babis Tsertos songs to the "Corner".

:drink:

Thermopyles - April 9, 2005 08:42 PM (GMT)
My manga :thumbsup: I see you have another version of "pino kai metho" :D Very fat, bro better than the Iacovidis version... I really like the touberleki use in this one...

PS Great lyrics in "ta vasana pligonoun", even for Vamvakaris

Dragases - April 13, 2005 11:11 AM (GMT)
I like the Tsertos version, too. Thanks to the touberleki, it's not as flat as the Iakovidis version. Both renditions are great, though.

I've uploaded another Iakovidis tune (duet with Babis Goles on bouzouki), and a nice little number from Nikolaidis.

:drink:





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