Title: Hellenic SEALs...O.Y.K
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Lord - March 1, 2005 08:29 AM (GMT)
O.Y.KThe Official side of the D.Y.K
http://www.hellenicnavy.gr/department0.asp Monada Ypovrichion Katastrofon (meaning Underwater Destruction Unit)
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Is the Greek Navy's special warfare unit. MYK is divided into four detachments, or OYKs (Omada Ypovrichion Katastophon). MYK has four main missions:
Infiltration and sabotage of enemy shipping and bases
Reconnaissance and pre-landing beach clearance an designation
Ordinance disposal
Maritime Counter-Terrorism
Created in 1957, MYK's initial cadre consisted of two naval officers. The men were sent to Little Creek Amphibious Base near Norfolk, Virginia; where both men undertook the US Navy UDT/R training (the forerunner to today's BUD/S course). Upon completion of training, the two men returned home and trained an additional dozen men. This group was assigned to the Greek Navy's amphibious operations command.
In 1959 the unit established its own headquarters and training facilities at Skaramanga Naval Base, but additional training was provided my detachments of USN SEALS and UDT personnel. In 1970 the unit underwent a reorganization and is currently composed of 110 men divided into four operational detachments and a headquarters unit. Each Det is composed of 25 men and specializes in a certain type of mission:
OYK1- unconventional warfare/ intelligence missions
OYK2- unconventional warfare/ intelligence missions
OYK3- beach recon and hydrographic survey
OYK4- conducts EOD operations
There is also a reserve OYK called OYK5 that would be activated during wartime.
The MYK training course lasts approximately seven months. Training is divided into three phases, with the completion of the course consisting of a five day long "hell week". Candidates who successfully complete the course go on to attend the Greek Airborne course before being assigned to their unit.
During the Gulf War, two OYKs tasked with enforcing the UN embargo against Irag managed to board and search an astounding 217 ships. They are armed with M-16A2 and MP-11 assault rifles, the MP-5 submachine gun, and the MG-3 7.62 light machine gun.
The most impressive recent incident involved the anarchy in Albania in 1997, where a Greek MYK contingent, in a clandestine operation, took control, and secured the main Albanian port, while similtaneously rescuing Greek, Chinese, and Arab diplomats.
Lord - March 1, 2005 08:37 AM (GMT)
Lord - March 1, 2005 08:42 AM (GMT)
Lord - March 1, 2005 08:59 AM (GMT)
Lord - March 1, 2005 09:15 AM (GMT)
Lord - March 1, 2005 09:20 AM (GMT)
An Helenic SEAL with Spanish Riffle in hes hand...NATO excercise...


Some of the most hated excersize...called "Pnigmos"

more pics will follow...
Dragases - March 15, 2005 10:04 AM (GMT)
cameleon1975 - March 16, 2005 10:44 AM (GMT)
cool pics!where can i sign up to join them? :applause:
GrkWebMaster - March 20, 2005 12:28 PM (GMT)
im lovin those pics lord. :thanks:
GREEK-AIRBORNE - June 9, 2005 11:29 PM (GMT)
digenis - June 10, 2005 03:39 PM (GMT)
Someone needs to give these guys a hint:
If you don't want to get shot and killed by "amateur" or "inferior" infantry soldiers, put on a BDU with the Hellenic camo pattern!
There is even on guy with the new "digital" camo of the US Marines! Hellenic camo BDU's using rip-stop are available and dry up as fast as any other. There is no excuse for using Woodland camo, other than to play "Rambo".
My 2 cents.
Efeler - June 10, 2005 04:36 PM (GMT)
Looks like one of the guys in the first picture is smoking! The one not showing his face, looking down (is he hiding from his superior officer?) They resemble more US military in terms of weapons and perhaps discipline? I'm not insinuating they are bad or incapable.
digenis - June 10, 2005 04:45 PM (GMT)
Efeler,
Smoking is not banned (much like putting your hands in pockets), especially when you are free enough to pose in pictures. :P
I didn't make a comment about their weapons or their training (which are indeed excellent), just their choice of BDU's.
digenis - June 10, 2005 04:48 PM (GMT)
I have a questions for the experts.
If you are not wearing an official uniform of your country, are you protected by the Geneva conventions? I recall that there are no provisions for people outside of official uniforms, who can be treated as spies and shot when captured.
GREEK-AIRBORNE - June 10, 2005 10:07 PM (GMT)
baris75 - June 10, 2005 10:42 PM (GMT)
Those pictures of SF and marines are dated back late 80's ( I mean the last two pic.), the first pic. is not SF or Marines. The first one is showing Foça commando school during the recruitment period of conscripts. Second one does not show up in my pc, so no comments. Third one is a pic of ISAF soldiers or any other NATO assigned unit. I can tell from the berrets.
GREEK-AIRBORNE - June 11, 2005 12:45 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (baris75 @ Jun 11 2005, 12:42 AM) |
| Those pictures of SF and marines are dated back late 80's ( I mean the last two pic.), the first pic. is not SF or Marines. The first one is showing Foça commando school during the recruitment period of conscripts. Second one does not show up in my pc, so no comments. Third one is a pic of ISAF soldiers or any other NATO assigned unit. I can tell from the berrets. |
So you claim that your Special Forces does not use the G3?
Man i know that Bordo Bereli (Red Bereds) and the SAT uses M16 but don;t tell me that your comando units use more often the M16 than the G3. I have many photos of Turkish Special Forces in my Desktop with G3? I have to find a way to post them here, (URL is needed) So tommorow i will have a homework to do :lol: tonight is too late...
GREEK-AIRBORNE - June 11, 2005 01:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (baris75 @ Jun 11 2005, 12:42 AM) |
| Those pictures of SF and marines are dated back late 80's ( I mean the last two pic.), the first pic. is not SF or Marines. The first one is showing Foça commando school during the recruitment period of conscripts. Second one does not show up in my pc, so no comments. Third one is a pic of ISAF soldiers or any other NATO assigned unit. I can tell from the berrets. |
baris75 - June 11, 2005 10:54 AM (GMT)
GREEK AIRBORNE, first special Forces an Commando units are two different things. Commando is light infantary for special areas like montanious terrain or paraschuting etc. And, yes our commando units issue rifle is G3 which is being replaced by HK33. And it is the issue rifle of Greek Army too. So, what is your point saying the Turkish SF uses out dated weapons. Just count how many SF Turkish Army recruits and Greek Army does. How many commando units on both sides. You should check the meanning of SF and commando once more I guess.
derkrieger - June 11, 2005 02:49 PM (GMT)
To add to the question of G3,
British SAS are high on this rifle, because it KILLS. I had read a book where the members of high esteemed SAS were praising in deed our old heckler Koch G3 of course those with 7,62 caliber.
Book was sthg. like " Midnight in a Burning Town"
ah here
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/0297...8764547-1857359
baris75 - June 11, 2005 04:57 PM (GMT)
The special forces members are quite free to choose any weapon they wish in elite units likle SAS SBS seals etc... You can find pic. of different SAS units using G3 HK41 AK 47. This is how it is in most of the SF units. I have seen Turkish SF soldiers with Galil 5.56 rifle, AK47, M4, Uzi, G3, HK33-41, MP series. The thing here is to be able to use the advantage of a good selection of weapons suitable for the mission you are participating. When you are doing a mission in a M.East country the best selection of weapon would be an AK 47 as you will never lack ammo. That is why there are still RPG'S in the inventory of Turkish Special forces or SAS-SAT teams. MAK'S are also using AK47's (and maybe more advance variants).
GREEK-AIRBORNE - June 11, 2005 10:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (baris75 @ Jun 11 2005, 12:54 PM) |
| GREEK AIRBORNE, first special Forces an Commando units are two different things. Commando is light infantary for special areas like montanious terrain or paraschuting etc. And, yes our commando units issue rifle is G3 which is being replaced by HK33. And it is the issue rifle of Greek Army too. So, what is your point saying the Turkish SF uses out dated weapons. Just count how many SF Turkish Army recruits and Greek Army does. How many commando units on both sides. You should check the meanning of SF and commando once more I guess. |
Baris, i didn't mean that Turkish Special Forces are not good just because they use the G3. I know very well the difference comando units & Special Units have. But you said something about the Greek Army using G3. Yes but only the Infantry the common Army (like your's Mehmetsik) use it (and is about to replaced) But although you canot scale to the same level the Comando and Marines Units with The Underwater Demolition Units, or the Special operations units, you canot scale them as light infantry either. This unit's need to have much ammo wich will not be very heavy. So in Greek Army the Elite units (not the Special Forces) such as the Marines the Commandos and the Airmobile Brigade do use the M16A2 & M4 as a primary Weapon
A Greek Alpine soldier

71st Air-mobile Brigade in a parade

Marines From the 32nd Marine Brigade

Greek LOK Commando Regiment with their Hummer

Now they are not Special operation units are they?
P.S. A question, because i don;t know, what weapon does the Turkish Paratrupers use?
baris75 - June 12, 2005 08:35 AM (GMT)
As I have stated below Turkish Para Brigade, Bolu Commando Brigade, Gandrmarie Special Op. Teams, Marines uses HK33. But, the Army and the above units are not very satisfied with its performance. So, when we take into what u said about the ammo, it is not very different from the Greek Special units as HK33 uses 5.56 cal. rounds. They also use AK47s. And, M16s are also in their inventory. So, what I am saying is just don't make assumstion by looking to a couple of pic.
cameleon1975 - June 12, 2005 09:35 AM (GMT)
@Greek-Airborne
I can't see the images you posted.
baris75 - June 12, 2005 09:59 AM (GMT)
Yes, Camellon I can not see most of the pic. either. Any solution, anyone?
Picard - June 12, 2005 02:51 PM (GMT)
There is a misundertstanding in this thread... Blue Berrets (Commando, mountain commando, airborn commando) are not special forces. They are conscripts. There are only 2 special forces units in Turkey... SAS/SAT and the Red Berrets. Blue berrets obviously use G-3, that is their main rifle, but they are not special forces. See
http://warriorsoul.4t.com/sof.html for details.
But on the other hand, although the main rifles of the SAT units are M-4 and M-16, they sometimes use G-3 as well, whenever they like. Check out the below SAT pictures where you can see the G-3s:

GREEK-AIRBORNE - June 12, 2005 02:52 PM (GMT)
well i hope that i am not the only one who can see the pictures... :unsure:
i really don't know why you can't see them :sbof:
P.S Baris thank you for the info about turkish Para units...