About 8/06 I saw on Antenna pacific news that Greece was buying some of these fine jets.Since that time I"ve heard nothing.

It would be a good thing for Greece to have these fine assets.They are a cut above the F-16.

Are Greece still to Buy them.

Well,it was stated in the past that we have the ''intention'' to buy them!But no one knows when we are going to buy them.Surely we will have to wait elections to be held(probably this year) before there will be made any decisions on this matter....

I'm no technical expert but I would be interested to know how effective would the Eurofighter be in tackling the F-35.

I have heard so much about both planes and I wonder would the HAF be disadvantage by purchasing the Eurofighter, given that it seems definite now that Turkey is still going ahead with the F-35.

Your question brings up two different issues, a) whether modern radars (and those under development) can detect "stealth" aircraft, and B) how "stealth" will the export versions of the JSF really be.


AFAIK, there is no sufficient info at the moment, to answer them. Theoretically it is, AFAIK, possible for a radar to detect a "stealth" aircraft, but I am not sure of its practicability.


We should also keep in mind, that a "stealth" aircraft is not immune to other survailance systems (like, for exaple, IR ones)

:2cents:

I totally agree with you.This must be also one of the important points,if not the most important,when the HAF is going to buy it next generation fighter:

How capable will the aircraft(and its weapons) be in detecting/engaging the turkish JSF ? :unsure:

Living in Australia where the govt here is looking to buy the jsf there are a lot of military experts saying that it it not a good choice and inferior to Russian made planes in the Indian Air Force.

Its plagued by a lot of developmental problems and may be 8 years off.

The Eurofighter is a top plane now and can be upgraded easily and superior to anything in Turkey today.

Also,I feel in recent years some US equipment may have lost ground to the best Europe and Russia can produce.

How about the rafale?
i think it's the better choice...

USSR planes are beyond consideration huH?...

The Rafale is also a very good choice.

I mean the JSF all this investment in a stealthy plane that may be 8 years off.

At the rate of technology I find it hard to believe that a radar or some other form of technology to pick up stealthy plames wont be developed by then.The s300 is partialy capable already.The best The us has to offer is the f-22 and its not for sale.

By the way ,after the Serbs shot a few down in 99 we have not heard that much about the "stealth fighter".

The eurofighter or Rafale gives the HAF an advantage now.

Isn't everyoone fed up with all this USA stupidity called Fcs? They developped hl-apache because they thought it could hide every where, hitting targets with no opposition etc..We all saw how it performed...They developped the stryker and a bunch o mumbo jumbo highly sophisticated trash and we all saw their marvelous performance... They keep thinking that the world is completely retarted and they are the smart ones... Instead of following the principle keep it simple they keep on making it harder and harder...

We will purchase the Eurofighter,their are HAI enginers in Germany as we speak being trained for co-production.No rush to purchase the eurofighter
we have 30 f-16block 52 that will be delivered in 2009.Turkey will be getting the f-35 after 2015 by then we will have the neuron.

Thats exactly why we should get Rafale. The neuron can be controlled from the plane itself. We should get 40 EF's to compliment our M2kMKII fleet and 120 rafale with full production line and tech transfer to replace all A-7's F-4's, etc., as a multi role fighter. NTM its 40mio CHEAPER than EF...

Sound good thermo but i don't see Greece spending that much on fighter planes.France is willing to give us full production line and tech transfer?
i didnt no that. I no one think Russia offered the su-35 with full production line in greece.The Rafael is a good choice,we will see what happens.Greece did
a big mistake to cancel the 60+30 eurofighter deal,it would have been in Service by 2010 max.

They did offer us full production, or close to it. Tech trasnfer I believe was full or again very close to it, including mission computer, and no strings attached. They really did make us a fantastic offer. And for 65mioUSD fly-away cost, it cant be beat. Combine that with neuron capibility and we have some serious world-class AF capabilities on our hands... Its been a while since I read up on this, and I don't have a link. We've had some very good threads on this, but our damn search engine does'nt work worth a shit, and its hard to find past threads. That is next on the list to fix here...

PS nice find on the neuron B)

When we will no the next generation fighter plane Greece will purchase?

Am so curious to no.I read a artical a few months ago saying that HAI

enginners were in Germany, getting training for co-production on the

Eurofighter.Their was even a picture with the Greek and germans enginners

and the eurofighter in the back round,this is why i believe the eurofighter will

be are next generation fighter plane.

Its a bit complicated right now angelo...
Future will tell...
other fighters are still in the "game"...
Raphale...and of corse JSF...

usa started to market for j f 35 watch the movie die hard 4!!!! :lol:

normaly usa to sell his f 18s they made them play in every movie .
but couldnt able to sell them.!!

now f 35 on bazzar . we are buying it but we will see what wýll hapen.