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Title: RPG-18 64mm vs RPG-7 40mm


KORNET-E - January 5, 2007 09:20 AM (GMT)
RPG-18 64mm

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RPG-18 64mm

The RPG-18 Mukha ("Fly") is a Russian short-range, disposable light anti-tank rocket launcher.

The RPG-18 is similar in both appearance and in functionality to the United States’ LAW. Both of these weapons are carried with the part of the launch tube collapsed making the weapon much more compact. When preparing to fire, the soldier using the RPG-18 extends the tube. Sights are mounted on the top of the tube with the trigger located just below the rear peep sight.

The RPG-18 fires a 64 mm PG-18 HEAT warhead mounted on a small rocket capable of engaging any target within 200 meters. The warhead self-destructs 6 seconds after launch placing definite limits on range even if a sight was used that was effective with targets beyond 200 meters. The PG-18 itself can penetrate up to 375 mm of conventional armor. However, performance is significantly diminished when the RPG-18 is employed against targets protected by HEAT resistant ERA or composite armor.

Unlike better known weapons, the RPG-18 requires only one operator because it is not reloaded. Assistant grenadiers are used in the RPG-2, RPG-7 and RPG-16 systems.


Specifications

Calibre: 64 mm
Weight:
Total: 2.6 kg
Rocket: 1.4 kg
Muzzle velocity: 115 m/s
Length:
Folded: 705 mm
Extended: 1050 mm
Range
Versus 2 m high target: 135 m
Practical maximum: 200 m
Warhead: HEAT with a penetration of 375 mm of RHA, 1 m of brick or 0.5 m of reinforced concrete with VP-18 impact fuze.


RPG-7 40mm

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RPG-7 40mm

The RPG-7 is a widely-produced and used handheld anti-tank grenade launcher designed by the Soviet Union.

Specifications

A RPG launcher loaded with an OG-7V fragmentation warhead.Manufacturer specifications for the RPG-7V1 provided by Rosoboronexport and Globalsecurity.

Caliber: 40 mm (1.57")
Weight: 7 kg (15 lb)
Length: 95 cm (37")
PG-7V:
Warhead: Single-stage HEAT
Round weight: 2.6 kg (5.7 lb)
Diameter: 70,5 mm (2.7")
Penetration: Over 330 mm RHA (12.9")
PG-7VL:
Warhead: Single-stage HEAT
Round weight: 2.6 kg (5.7 lb)
Diameter: 93 mm (3.65")
Penetration: Over 500 mm RHA (19.5")
PG-7VR:
Warhead: Tandem HEAT
Round weight: 4.5 kg (9.9 lb)
Diameter: 105 mm (4.1")
Penetration: Over 600 mm RHA after reactive armor (23.4")
OG-7V:
Warhead: Fragmentation
Round weight: 2 kg (4 lb)
Diameter: 40 mm (1.6")
Maximum effective area for people wearing body armor: 150 m (492 ft)
TBG-7V:
Warhead: Single-stage thermobaric
Round weight: 4.5 kg (9.9 lb)
Diameter: 105 mm (4.1")
Kill radius: 10 m (33 ft)

dragon1w4e5 - January 5, 2007 09:44 PM (GMT)
You can’t compare them.

Thermopyles - January 6, 2007 02:42 AM (GMT)
Yes the -18 is far more practical, nothing sticking out to get caught on places and easy to carry, just like a LAW, but if I remember correctly is less powerful and less range. But its limitations of round types is a big minus compared to the -7. The -7 does have some very nice modern rounds that could accomplish alot, but the Iraqis only have outdated types from crypts or whatever can be found on the black market...

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Kill radius: 10 m (33 ft)

Why do the russians always inflate their numbers to best possible hypothetical situation? :hammer:

KORNET-E - January 6, 2007 10:23 AM (GMT)
Type 69 RPG 40mm

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Type 69 RPG 40mm

The Type 69 40mm rocket propelled grenade (RPG), made by Norinco, is a Chinese copy of the famous RPG-7 developed by the Soviet Union. First introduced in the early 1970s, the Type 69 RPG is still the most common individual anti-tank weapon in service with the PLA. New types of grenade rounds have been developed in the 1980s/90s to meet the requirements of modern battlefields.

Specifications
Calibre: (launcher tube) 40mm, (grenade) 85mm
Length: 910 mm
Combat Weight: 5.6kg
Grenade Weight: 2.1kg
Round Weight: 1.84 kg
Muzzle Velocity: N/A
Maximum Effective Range: 300m
Armour Piercing Depth: 380mm (0 degree)






dragon1w4e5 - January 6, 2007 12:49 PM (GMT)
RPG-7 is something the Hellenic Army doesn’t have. With this weapon you can use different warheads for each occasion. M2 84mm Carl Gustav can do the same, but its heavier (14kg empty w. telescope sight) and the ammo are more expensive.

Thermopyles - January 6, 2007 04:17 PM (GMT)
Yeah, but the Gustaf is soo much better designed. With the -7, its just not ergonomic at all for modern standards. Anyway, both cannot be fired from enclosed positions, something that is essential in an under-matched/defending force. If Eryx could be perfected the comparisons would be over. Then we would just need a fire and forget for mid-long range (AT-15 krysanthamum).

dragon1w4e5 - January 6, 2007 05:47 PM (GMT)
If you referring to M3 model then Yes. But the problem of M3 Carl Gustav is that it’s still too heavy (9.5 kg empty w. telescope sight).

M2 Carl Gustav
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M3 Carl Gustav
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Thermopyles - January 7, 2007 02:48 AM (GMT)
M-3 yes

Types of rounds:
High Explosive Dual Purpose (HEDP) round
High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) round
High Explosive (HE) round
Illumination round
Smoke round
Area Defence Munition (ADM) flechette round

I especialy like the flachette load ;)

Well here is something worth looking into: Looks like a potentialy very good system...


dragon1w4e5 - January 7, 2007 10:26 AM (GMT)
The MBT LAW is a very good candidate for the Army’s requirement for a advanced short range AT weapon.

Landos - June 30, 2007 01:50 PM (GMT)
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the -18 is far more practical


And far more expensive. You need a good balance between expensive/more capable/low quantity and less expensive/less capable/greater quantity.

In an engagement defending the Greek islands, for example, I'd prefer seeing forces heavily supplied with lower capability anti-armor/anti-personnel weapons like the RPG-7 and RPG-14 than lower quantities of more capable such weapons. The mission is to hit the enemy fast, hard and in great force the moment they touch the beaches. Further, if the engagement is protracted we need to think about resupply-sad to say I trust the Russians far more than I do Washington to look out for Greek interests. ESPECIALLY in any conflict with Turkey. :dunno:




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