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Thermopyles - October 3, 2006 10:59 PM (GMT)
Sorry gents, its only in PDF: http://www.kitco.com/pr/1768/article_10032006100805.pdf


B) Yesss :hathello:

D.E.A - October 4, 2006 01:18 PM (GMT)
Are the Hellas gold company part of George soro's companies?

Thermopyles - October 4, 2006 02:21 PM (GMT)
Good question... possible because they do alot of business in the balkans and he's Bulgarian... The article doesn't specify, but I'll keep my eyes open and report if I find out.

Thermopyles - October 4, 2006 02:32 PM (GMT)
My 1000th "quality" post :D :baeh:

D.E.A - October 4, 2006 09:36 PM (GMT)
:roflmao: :rofl:

mourlos pilioreiths - October 6, 2006 04:30 PM (GMT)
George Sorros is hungarian but that's not important.....his companies somebody can say that are of not very "unstable" nature.....he is actually a gambler of the stock market.....one day he has them,the other no....what is more important is to find out also the involvement of the greek government in this project and many other questions related to that......

Thermopyles - October 7, 2006 03:00 AM (GMT)
Well noone can make correct business decisions 100% of the time. Obviously he makes more good ones than bad ones, because his billions were actualy mostly made honestly. And he gives many millions to charity.

As for the Greek gov's role in Hellas gold, I believe it is non-exsistant. The company is private.

mourlos pilioreiths - October 8, 2006 11:59 AM (GMT)
To be fair with you,the only thing i don't really care,is what kind of charity he makes....and same as everybody,he gives only peanuts compare to his fortune.Seond and most important it is quite stupid that the greek government is doind nothing in this case....Doesn't sound a bit strange to you???

Landos - June 30, 2007 04:35 AM (GMT)
Soros is a lowlife dirtbag and he HATES Greece. No question about that.

123-t - June 30, 2007 11:21 AM (GMT)
It is really questionable what drives this man.
He may have a considerable portion of egoism that drives him to intervene where he sees potential to multiply his money. Through his Open Society Foundation he apparently supports anti-status quo Democratic Efforts in unstable political environments. Then, after the new order is installed, he might move in with his money and invest in these usually financially troubled countries and achieve tremendous mostly tax-free returns, through his Netherlands Antilles-based fund.


Of course, it cannot be known if his societal interventions are solely and exclusively for monetary purposes. He is known to work, amongst others, together with Berezovsky with whom he might try to make "Open Society efforts" in Russia, so as to overthrow the current government. His involvement in Skopje is also known.

Landos - June 30, 2007 02:41 PM (GMT)
Soros is an internationalist and he uses his money to promote more influence in many of the Balkan nations. But he's not doing it for altruistic reasons. He's acquired power and MONEY by doing these things. For everything he does, there is a plan for George Soros to be compensated in some way, shape or form.

He's a big buddy of most of the Russian Oligarchs, with whom he shares a Faith. They're almost all Jews, as is Soros.

Let one thing be understood, the Oligarch's did not build their wealth by producing a markettable product, devising a markettable idea or otherwise doing constructive work in a Free Enterprise system. They grabbed ex Soviet enterprises when that empire came crashing down, mostly for obscene prices or in leveraged-debt grab bags. Most of them supported Yeltsin, because he was a worthless drunk who was inebriated during most of the years they were stealing the Russian peoples wealth.

With Soros as with the Oligarchs you have to follow the money trail to figure out what they're up to. Take Kosovo for instance. Why are all of the Oligarchs as well as Soros doing whatever they can to promote the "independence" of Kosovo under an Albanian (mob) leadership? What's in it for them?

Very simply, Mo Money. The Albanians want Kosovo mainly to extend their national influence but also because it will become even a stronger base for the Albanian Mob in the region. Don't kid yourself, there is a lot of money involved. But there is also plenty of incentive for the Russian Oligarch's and Soros-the Albanian regime currently in power in Kosovo has promised them bargain basement prices for ex-Yugoslavian industry, mines and mineral wealth in that province. It involves many Billions of Euros and it's being stolen from the Yugoslavian (mainly Serbian) people who paid a lot of money to develop those industries. The Oligarchs will steal those assets and line their pockets again, at the expense of the people who paid for it.

Soros is nothing but a dirtbag. Everywhere he spends his 'seed money" it's to stir up trouble for indegenous people-forment revolutions, ethnic and religious strife, attacks on the established order-all so he and his ilk can profit from someone elses misery. He's done it many times.

He hates Greece because Greece stands for peace and tranquility, economic growth and a promising future for the nations of the Balkans. Whereas Soros wants to stir up conflict and trouble so he can exploit it.

123-t - June 30, 2007 06:38 PM (GMT)
So, generally speaking, you see a power play with, at least, the following participants:


1. financially strong, mostly Jewish elites and Albanian structures whose principal motivation is the numeric difference they can achieve. Their aim, which satisfies their basic motivation, is, amongst others, to support the creation of "extreme" social situations in countries that allow assets to become extremely undervalued.
One of their temporary aims being the polarization of societies,especially in the Southern Balkans.

2. The interests of Greece, Russia, Serbia, the Southern Balkans being directly in contrast to them, assuming their primary goal is to achieve peace.

Landos - June 30, 2007 10:45 PM (GMT)
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One of their temporary aims being the polarization of societies,especially in the Southern Balkans.


I think that's a pretty fair summation. The Oligarch's (and their ally in George Soros) have parlayed economic and governmental instability into vast fortunes. They love it when there is no strong governmental authority to challenge their questionable leveraged buyouts and debt financed schemes.

A lot of these guys were the next thing to Mob bosses in the old Soviet Union. When the walls came down they took advantage of the confusion to acquire state assets at obscene prices. Yeltsin was the perfect figurehead leader for them-a drunk, clown who wasn't going to make waves.

The hate Putin, because he's thrown a couple of them into prison for tax evasion. That's why you read all these articles in the western press about how Putin is backing away on "reforms" and moving away from "democratic principles". They don't want anyone in power who's smart, clever and principled and not afraid of confronting them. Truth to tell, Putin has gone after some of the Oligarch's and made peace with others-he knows he can't get away with prosecuting all of them.

Another reason they hate Putin is Russia is standing against the US and Britain in the UN Security Council on trying to push "independence" for Kosovo (China probably will as well). As I pointed out, there is massive money to be made acquiring the former state owned enterprises in the province of Kosovo and the Oligarchs-and probably Soros-want it.

Follow the money trail-it almost always takes you to the REAL reasons why something is being done.

123-t - July 2, 2007 06:39 PM (GMT)
An individual or at least a handful of individuals have the ability to confront the interests of an entire country and thus millions of people. The power that confronts the countries in form of the oligarchs is a power that would otherwise, at least in the best case for the people, be the respective country´s power.

Another point is, as you mentioned, the specific press coverage. The chiefly Jewish oligarchs, that mostly acquired their fortunes through Anatoly Chubais, who as a Jew himself, was active in the privatization commission in 1994/1995 and was the primary figure in the loans-for-shares programs, that granted loans by the state banks to the said individuals, so as to enable them to "buy" the assets, are oftentimes depicted as advocates of the free system.

Another thing is what happened with the rather recent killing of a former KGB agent who worked with Berezovsky, planned a plot against Putin´s regime and had a relationship with the British secret service.

Landos - July 3, 2007 03:38 AM (GMT)
These guys are always portrayed in the western press as success stories to Russia's "new Free Enterprise Capitalism". I reality, they HATE free economic principles. They acquired all their wealth through shady leveraged buyouts and insider manipulations as the walls came tumbling down on the old Soviet Union. Hardly champions of free enterprise.

Putin is in a tough spot. He wants to encourage continued movement towards a free economy in Russia, but at the same time he doesn't want these Grand Thiefs walking away with massive amounths of Russia's wealth. They need that money for investment capital and development of their banking industry.

Naturally, everytime he comes down hard on an Oligarch who went too far, they US news media goes after him for "wanting to take Russia back to the time of the Czars". I'm sure the US news media leadership has several motivations for promoting this viewpoint-one of which is their ethnic makeup, IMO.

BTW, I doubt Putin had anything to do with the killing of that journalist in London. The guy was apparently a low-level journalist of no real threat to Russia's leadership. Which begs the question of who really had motivation to kill him?

Thermopyles - July 3, 2007 04:24 AM (GMT)
I had no idea Soros was playing both sides all the time... He makes it seem as if hes so generous and philanthropic. But he's playing all sides to need something from him and get a big payday... It that about right?

Landos - July 3, 2007 04:46 AM (GMT)
He's a phoney. No way is he in it for philanthropic reasons. If he wants to give his money to Cancer Research or to find a cure for AIDS, fine. Everyone can respect that. Instead, he spends his money funding think tanks and organizations that promote instability in nations-particularly in the Balkans.

The guy is Machiavellian, no question.

123-t - July 3, 2007 12:30 PM (GMT)
What Soros does is, it to take and support a stance and ostracize the other.
While all means are deemed adequate by him, in order to attain his goal.

Judging him according to his own statements, one might come to the conclusion that the apparent altruistic works have a ulterior motive, since it is difficult to see him in a situation, where he loses his purely rational approach (acting only in his best interest).

Landos - July 3, 2007 03:45 PM (GMT)
Everything he does is for George Soros, in the final analysis. And for his ethnic brethren.




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