Hellenic Navy ships visit to Montréal (Greek Turkish Affairs Forum)

Title: Hellenic Navy ships visit to Montréal
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Alepou 340MB - August 9, 2006 11:17 PM (GMT)

Hellenic Navy ships visit to Montréal

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LSV LOGISTIC SUPPORT VESSEL H.S. ‘PROMETHEUS’ A-374

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KORTENAER CLASS FRIGATE H.S. ‘AEGEON’ (F-460)

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Cheers,
Alepou 340MB :call:

Mystik - August 10, 2006 04:15 PM (GMT)

I had openend a thread abouted,asking about some pics,BUT THIS IS GREAT,many thanks Alepou

Lord - August 10, 2006 04:31 PM (GMT)

Thanks Alepou....

Thermopyles - August 10, 2006 11:49 PM (GMT)

:applause: What was the visit in regards/responce to?

Lord - August 16, 2006 03:45 PM (GMT)

For the 15 August...ths panagias

DirtyBird - August 17, 2006 02:37 PM (GMT)

Ok I have a dumb question, where is the Canadian flag? Dont they have to hoist the flag of the country they're visiting?

D.E.A - August 17, 2006 07:08 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (DirtyBird @ Aug 17 2006, 04:37 PM)

Ok I have a dumb question, where is the Canadian flag? Dont they have to hoist the flag of the country they're visiting?

If i'm not mistaken this rule wont apply for military vessels.

Alepou 340MB - August 18, 2006 04:23 AM (GMT)

Some more from the same guy in Canada!

Nice angle!

Cheers,
Alepou 340MB B)

Alepou 340MB - August 18, 2006 04:36 AM (GMT)

QUOTE (DirtyBird @ Aug 17 2006, 04:37 PM)

Ok I have a dumb question, where is the Canadian flag? Dont they have to hoist the flag of the country they're visiting?

Yes they do, and yes it’s there, just a small version on the starboard side on the main mast on ‘PROMETHEUS’.

Cheers,
Alepou 340MB :blink:

Alepou 340MB - August 18, 2006 10:05 AM (GMT)

OK! This guy is now an official stalker of the Hellenic Navy! :roflmao:

Cheers,
Alepou 340MB :lol:

DirtyBird - August 18, 2006 12:54 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (Alepou 340MB @ Aug 18 2006, 06:36 AM)

QUOTE (DirtyBird @ Aug 17 2006, 04:37 PM)

Ok I have a dumb question, where is the Canadian flag? Dont they have to hoist the flag of the country they're visiting?

Yes they do, and yes it’s there, just a small version on the starboard side on the main mast on ‘PROMETHEUS’.

Cheers,
Alepou 340MB :blink:

Actually I think thats an insignia and not the Canadian Flag....I am pretty sure all ships are supposed to fly the flag of the country which they are visiting and the other rule is it cant be any lower than any other flag on mast.

Alepou 340MB - August 18, 2006 01:09 PM (GMT)

Top Flag.

Meaning: Canadian.
Bottom Flag.
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Meaning: I have a pilot on board.

Cheers,
Alepou 340MB :hathello:

Saturn5 - August 22, 2006 03:01 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (DirtyBird @ Aug 18 2006, 02:54 PM)

Actually I think thats an insignia and not the Canadian Flag....

I think you are correct. The top flag does look like the Canadian Flag but it is not. The Canadian flag is red white red. The top flag is red white red white.

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In this photo you can see most of the flag.

baris75 - August 22, 2006 04:12 PM (GMT)

I know it is talking to much over a flag but if you look more carefully Saturn5 you will see the red spot at the tip of the flag so it is red white red and the maple leaf in the middle, definetaly Canadian flag ;)

DirtyBird - August 22, 2006 08:31 PM (GMT)

I am convinced that it is also a naval signal flag. Check the link out, its the answering pendant. According to International Naval Signal Code it has to precede any other signal flag so it makes sense that its above the "Pilot Onboard" flag. Which begs the question where is the Canadian Flag?

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/commun...lags/flags.html

This picture shows it best

BTW If you look carefully at the mast you will see Foxtrot, Zulu, Alpha, Uniform painted on it, this is a four flag signal which tells you information about the vessel, but I cant find a resource to see how it works.

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Saturn5 - August 23, 2006 10:12 AM (GMT)

QUOTE (baris75 @ Aug 22 2006, 06:12 PM)

I know it is talking to much over a flag but if you look more carefully Saturn5 you will see the red spot at the tip of the flag so it is red white red and the maple leaf in the middle, definitely Canadian flag ;)

Dear baris75,

I have enlarge the photo. I would be very happy if you would show me the Mapple Leaf on the so called Canadian Flag.

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As far I as know unlike commercial ships or private boats when a warship visits another country she does not have to hoist the flag of courtesy. A warship is considered a part of the host nation. Thus these Greek warships were legally speaking Greek territory in Montreal. Just like an embassy.

baris75 - August 23, 2006 01:06 PM (GMT)

So, i am wrong, sorry Saturn5. Didn't mean to be arrogant, i was almost sure it was a maple leaf in the middle, but, i was wrong.

Saturn5 - August 23, 2006 01:37 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (baris75 @ Aug 23 2006, 03:06 PM)

So, i am wrong, sorry Saturn5. Didn't mean to be arrogant, i was almost sure it was a maple leaf in the middle, but, i was wrong.

No problem. :drink:

Alepou 340MB - August 24, 2006 05:30 AM (GMT)

See this link for some info.
http://fotw.vexillum.com/flags/xf-cour.html

The flag saga continues! :gang beat:

Alepou 340MB - August 24, 2006 05:43 AM (GMT)

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Flown on ships and boats

The National Flag of Canada is the proper national colours for all Canadian ships and boats, including pleasure craft. The Canadian Shipping Act states that a Canadian ship shall hoist the flag on a signal being made to her by one of Her Majesty's Canadian ships, or any ship in the service of and belonging to the Government of Canada; on entering or leaving any foreign port; and if of 50 tonnes gross tonnage or upwards, on entering or leaving any Commonwealth port.

Foreign vessels may fly the Canadian flag as a "courtesy flag" when they are berthed in a Canadian port. The flag then is customarily flown from the foremast.

General rules governing merchant vessels and pleasure craft are as follow:

* the flag should be worn in harbour and in territorial waters but need not be worn while under way on the high seas unless the vessel wishes to identify her nationality to another ship;

* whenever possible, the proper place for a vessel to display the national colours is at the stern, except that when at sea, the flag may be flown from a gaff;

* when in harbour the flag should be hoisted at 0800 hours and lowered at sunset;

* when a merchant ship and a warship of any nationality pass or overtake one another, the merchant ship should dip the flag as a gesture of courtesy. If on a staff, the lowest corner of the flag should be brought to the level of the rail and kept there until the salutation is acknowledged by the naval vessel. If flown from a gaff, the flag should be lowered to six feet (1.80m) above the level of the deck, until the salute is acknowledged;

* in times of mourning, the flag may be flown at half-mast, which places the upper corner of the flag next to the staff at approximately three-quarters of full-hoist. As on land, a flag hoisted to or lowered from half-mast position must first be hauled close-up.

http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp/etiquette/2_e.cfm

Here are the rules for Canada.

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DirtyBird - August 24, 2006 12:47 PM (GMT)

What friggin mess. I think the Turkish regulation is better defined, I will have to find it.

Lord - August 28, 2006 10:44 AM (GMT)

very interesting indeed...
I also cant recall beeing on a frigatte...and "visiting" Cyprus to host the Cyrpiot Flag...
Good that Baris mentioned it....so we have a beter knowledge on the subject

and Thanks Saturn and Alepou for clearing things up...

angelo - June 22, 2007 06:45 AM (GMT)

I was their am from Montreal they even let us bord the ship,good experience

Alepou 340MB - June 23, 2007 05:14 AM (GMT)

And what, did you eat your camera? :angry:

Pictures? <_<

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