Title: Hatred.
Spartan - July 9, 2005 09:13 PM (GMT)
This forum is a special place and as such, it should not let hatreds take root and disrupt the tranquility of the forum. I ask adiministration to take a more pro active stance against those who advocate religious and racial hate couched under the protection of "innocent speech" or "I speak the truth".
Pytheas - July 9, 2005 09:20 PM (GMT)
Spartan, if my opinions bother you it's your problem.
And of course I speak the truth. Look at the world around you. Do you see pink curtens and roses with notes of romantic words? Cause I see planes flying over my island. And flags painted on mountains. And genocides. And bombs exploding everywhere.
And ya know what? I don't like this situation AT. ALL.
And they say that true tranquility you find omly to bhudist monasteries.
StrategyMaster - July 10, 2005 02:07 PM (GMT)
I am offended with the language some forumers using too the wiews may be true or false but someone must use proper language to defend his wiews. although situation is not critical at the moment it is getting worse day by day.Language slowly changing neutral to negative.
Mods must look back and decide if there is a change to dark side.
Spartan +1
Pytheas - July 10, 2005 02:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (StrategyMaster @ Jul 10 2005, 04:07 PM) |
| Language slowly changing neutral to negative. |
links
or else you are a defamer.
StrategyMaster - July 10, 2005 02:46 PM (GMT)
The productive for me means "keep muslims out of the EU".
"Cause we are a Christian Club
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And one of the reasons they don't fit is that 1st. they are muslims, and 2nd they will bring the borders of EU very close to all these areas that produce these sick murderers.
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It is obviously religeous hatred to say that some people must not have same conditions just because muslims and it is obviously an offending and negative language.
It is not a smart move to hide behind free speech and clever words.Hatred leads to worse words.
modus - July 11, 2005 06:42 AM (GMT)
Despite the fact that mod and admin team tends to take moderation job limited merely to facilitation, we can take of the velvet gloves quite easily, and although we had hitherto applied a step by step warning strategy before any member is banned, we can take preemptive and decisive steps as forum rules clearly state.
All members who kindly post here deemed to have accepted a priori the forum rules. I'd like to remind that those aiming at to test the patience of the mod and admin team are only reducing their existence as a respected member here.
My best
Hakan
Pytheas - July 11, 2005 07:42 AM (GMT)
OK SM, I will answer to you pathetic post that you did to create impressions.
I tried to avoid a useless continuation of your based to nowhere claims, but I see that some are taking them seriously.
| QUOTE (StrategyMaster @ Jul 10 2005, 04:46 PM) |
The productive for me means "keep muslims out of the EU".
"Cause we are a Christian Club |
Yes. I don't like multiculturalism and I believe that Europe should remain Christian and keep all the nonEuropean (aka non-Christian) Civilisations out.
Note: I have no problem if muslims and chinese and blah blah come here as visitors or legal immigrants.
Is there any problem with that? I share the opinion of the Pope and S. Hadigton. If they were writing in the forum you would call them hating mongers and ask for the mods to take act ?
| QUOTE (StrategyMaster @ Jul 10 2005, 04:46 PM) |
| And one of the reasons they don't fit is that 1st. they are muslims, and 2nd they will bring the borders of EU very close to all these areas that produce these sick murderers. |
Yes, you don't fit. Ask your fella Turks (and other nationalities) in Germany and all over Europe that are still living in muslim ghettos and can not adapt the European way of living.
Why would I want Turkey in Europe while Turks themselves do not seem likely to be fond of the European lifestyle?
And yes, Turkey would bring the EU borders very close to terrorist productive areas, not to mention that Turkey itself produces terror in the Kurd areas...
beleg - July 11, 2005 09:16 AM (GMT)
USA ,UK or Spain are much further than Turkey to your so called terrorist farms.. Being far or near to these places has no revelance on occurance of terrorist attacks as we have seen in the past.
On the contrary being neighbor to Middle East EU will have the chance to be a major player in M.E. affairs.
I dont even want to say anything on your other anti-turk, anti-islamic comments you make on this or other boards.
derkrieger - July 11, 2005 09:40 AM (GMT)
The problem with AQ terrorists is that they see the world as a stage of competition between religions.
and that seems to be the way of thinking by some forumers among us, unfortunately....
Kiziroglu - July 11, 2005 02:09 PM (GMT)
LoL phyeus you have so less knowledge...
ask Pegasus how great the difference is between turkish immigrants and greek immigrants in germany in the eyes of the germans...
funny.
digenis - July 11, 2005 03:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Spartan @ Jul 9 2005, 04:13 PM) |
| This forum is a special place and as such, it should not let hatreds take root and disrupt the tranquility of the forum. I ask adiministration to take a more pro active stance against those who advocate religious and racial hate couched under the protection of "innocent speech" or "I speak the truth". |
You should have a greater tolerance for free speech. If the goal of the creators of this forum is to transform this medium into a near "think-tank", then honest (and even unpleasant) views must be tolerated. This however does not mean that there is room for insults.
@StrategyMaster
That many people - and at least one vocal forum member - view the EU as a "Christian Club" (or actually, a non-Muslim one) should not surprise you. You can pretend that this sentiment does not exist or even try censoring it when it is voiced, but that does a diservice to everyone, including your own cause.
derkrieger - July 11, 2005 06:12 PM (GMT)
Digenis,
What one believes is of no concern, as far as our forum is concerned.
How you put your thoughts is all, that counts.
Regards
Pytheas - July 11, 2005 11:39 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kiziroglu @ Jul 11 2005, 04:09 PM) |
LoL phyeus you have so less knowledge...
ask Pegasus how great the difference is between turkish immigrants and greek immigrants in germany in the eyes of the germans...
funny. |
Kizir,
I didn't talk about racism or how accepted are the immigrants in their reception countries... far from that...
I talk about adaptation of muslims (among them Turks) in European society... And everyone knows that it is in a very low level.
For example, I was extremely shocked when I visited Berlin and saw that in the Turkish ghetto, the houses were built with no windows, cause I don't know what order of Muhammad they follow... IN the Heartland of EUROPE, Turks are isolating themselves with no external windows at their houses...
I mean Gosh...
Now who can talk for "European Turkey"... ? I can't... :dunno:
I believe it is obvious that Ataturk and his precessors failed to uproot Islam from Turkey and built a "european" country...
(my opinion always...)
beleg - July 12, 2005 06:49 AM (GMT)
hmm.. i just looked out of window(!) and i see that all houses in my neighborhood has windows.. It is so all around the town .. Yet it is so all around the country..
Some one is surely misleading you Pytheus...
Kiziroglu - July 12, 2005 09:17 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| For example, I was extremely shocked when I visited Berlin and saw that in the Turkish ghetto, the houses were built with no windows, cause I don't know what order of Muhammad they follow... |
Laughable....and which religion or faith or whatever follow the blacks in their ghettos ? voodoo cult ?
It is about financial reasons but i have no time and joy to explain it all to you....
derkrieger - July 12, 2005 11:24 AM (GMT)
Dude I know every corner of Kreuzberg and Neukoeln, that are the city parts (in Berlin) where Turks and Arabs are in abundance.
and you are, sorry to say, one big liar, if that remark of yours was not a direct consequence of some misobservations and misinterpretations on your part. That may well happen.
modus - July 12, 2005 11:48 AM (GMT)
Now given that the positions are clear, I will close this topic, and copy to moderation hub for further consideration. Thank you for contributions.