UPDATED: Saturday, November 10, 2007

Hello all, Zita here! I thought it might be a good idea to write out what I know about the current plot, and to list the litters of pups just to help my mind organize them. That way new members will not be confused and will not have to have everything explained individually, or go read the entire plot thread which is full of contradictions as we formed the ideas together. (I'm also just trying to get everything organized in my mind, too!) I know there are some details I've probably missed and/or forgotten, so please tell me if I have!

LITTERS OF UNBORN PUPS:
We're gonna have a lot of puppies around here real soon. I'm certain I've missed some, but here are all the litters-to-be I know of. (The wolf listed is the mother)

(Avatar's pups have been born)
(Nikaty's pups have been born)
(Bane II's pups have been born)
(Kyrist's pups are being born)
Radon- Radon and Loki of the Isa'fea are going to have pups. (These pups will be born after Radon returns to the Isa'fea lands. One will be up for adoption.)
Zyattiath- (see "Zyattiath's Pups" in THE BIG, SITE-WIDE PLOT) (A LONG way from being RPed)
Kiowa- Ah, I predict these are going to be a popular bunch! Kiowa, Beta wolf of the Amarth pack, was captured by humans and artificially insemenated. I know nothing really beyond that. (ALL PUPS TAKEN!)
Teaka- Teaka of the Isa'fea will be forcebred by Wirian. Wirian is upset because Teaka has moved on from him to Milo. (Plot still in motion towards this, perhaps suspended because James hasn't been on in a while)

THE BIG, SITE-WIDE PLOT:
As you most likely know unless you're very new/haven't been on in a while, we have an ENORMOUS site-wide plot going now. It began as Katie's idea when I first brought the character of Larion to SotW. It has grown quite a bit, with almost everybody adding more and more brilliant ideas. The original thread is in the Plot forum under "Idea! Read meh!" Here are all the little pieces-parts I know about it:

Larion
Larion is mine, and he is a nasty creature. He was an Alpha wolf once and has been thrown out of his old territory, thought for dead. Now Larion has come here and he has judged the Din'dea pack to be weak enough for him to overthrow. At the time of this posting, Larion is attacking the Alpha of the Din'dea, Tlon, and the Alphess, Kiwidinok. A Din'dea wolf named Nero Scythe is having a mental breakdown as he watches the fight while other wolves of the pack try to help him. (I am not completely sure what is going to happen with Nero, that's one of the gaps in my knowing...ness.) All of this is going on right now on the Din'dea lands in "Back to Square One". Kristen-who-plays-Kiwidinok plans on having Kiwi call a retreat because Tlon has been badly injured. Nero Scythe's son, Miska, will strike out at Larion and distract him and at least be thought dead after that fight.

The Kargroth Pack
The Kargroth pack has not technically been formed yet. Larion's plan is to run the Din'dea out of their land, and when he does this he is going to send up a howl calling any wolf who will to join him. The list of wolves that are planned for joining can be found in the Adoptable Characters forum under "Evil Wanted!", and anybody else who'd like to get a wolf in on the fun is welcome. (I made the rules. There are no rules, just be evil!)
The Kargroth are going to be an absolutely evil, heartless bunch. Even the Amarth, known to be violent, have warmth to their families and loyalty. The Kargroth will be much like Larion's old pack, ruled by blackmail, fear, and lies. (For information on Larion's old pack, the Daerok, see the profile of either him or his sister, Skath.) The Din'dea will most definitely fight back against the Kargroth, as will the other wolves of these lands because Larion will declare his intention to take over the entire area.

Kyrist's Pups
A Skah wolf by the name of Kyrist (she answers to Kyra) is currently pregnant with pups. This came about when Larion, more than slightly insane at the time, first came to these lands. He assaulted her for sport and then fled. Kyra will give birth to a litter of three pups, Kiara, Brayden, and Randwyn. Their RPers have been decided. The runt of the litter, Randwyn, will bear a chilling resemblence to his murdering father and he all ready has a spot in the plot, though Kiara and Brayden will likely become important too depending on how they're played. More about Randwyn further on. ;)

Zyattiath's Pups
When Larion forms the Kargroth pack, he will take Zyattiath to be his Alphess and they will have a litter of pups. A good number will not survive infancy. Larion will then remember what he did to Kyra and be paranoid about having some wolves out there with his bloodline that might threaten his reign as Kargroth Alpha. So goes to:

Randwyn
Larion will remember his encounter with Kyra and send a trusted Kargroth wolf, sworn to silence about this new mission, to retrieve her pups. (The identity of this wolf or wolves is not set) The raid will go badly, but they will capture Randwyn. Randwyn will be touted as a child of Zyattiath and Larion, and he will probably be threatened into silence on that count. We (Angel and myself again) haven't quite decided what will happen to him during that time, or how long he will remain a prisoner. He'll be miserable though. If any of Zyatt's children live, they will most certainly bully him around.

Meanwhile, Back With the Good Guys
Nobody's gonna be sitting around letting Larion be evil and stuff. When Larion forms his pack, he's going to draw a lot of unwanted attention. The Din'dea will seek out the help of their neighbors, the Amarth. This will likely be interesting IC because they aren't exactly the best of friends, especially since the Aiyana-and-Thunder-having-pups incident. The other two packs will get involved, they don't want a nasty dictator trying to steal their land. There's gonna be a big meeting of packs in the Amarth lands, and I have no real details on what anybody's planning for that(Plenty of room for ad-lib! Whoo!)
My character, Zine Aldasia, will be important because his hallucination will order him to kill Larion in order to spare many other wolves a lot of suffering. (For more about Zine's psychological problems, see his profile.) I don't think all the individual reactions of my other characters are important enough to detail here, though I should note Skath (Larion's sister) and Silven (who spent a good deal of time with the Daerok pack) are going to be pretty vocal.

Randwyn Again
When Randwyn is snatched, his mother is not going to be terribly happy about it. A Skah wolf, Shaman, will be sent to spy on the Kargroth and attempt to retrieve Randwyn. Zine will probably offer to help, because he loves pups and will be almost constantly gathering intelligence on the Kargroth to begin with.

Other Than That
I think this plot is going to last a lot longer than I originally thought it would. Kiwidinok, the Din'dea Alphess, will of course be planning to get the Kargroth the heck off Din'dea land. (If that gets through before much else happens, I guess the Kargroth can lay claim to a good chunk of the neutral lands for a while.) There's lots of room left for developing bits of this plot and throwing in new stuff. There will likely be fights, plenty of back-and-forth between all the packs, and other bits of plotly goodness all leading up to:

LARION DYING
UPDATE!-
Kiwidinok will kill Larion in order to regain her dignity as Din'dea Alphess.

Zine's Involvement
I would still like Zine to be important, but he will have to be severely injured in a fight in such a way that it will forever cripple him so he cannot continue is "avatar of death" lifestyle.

So... That's all I know! I hope I've helped pin some stuff down. Tell me what I've got wrong and/or missed! ^_^

-Zita

I see flaws... but I can't say since secret major plots in the Amarth are fun fun fun -laughs evilly- Muahahahaahhahaha!!!!!!! Hahahaha! -hyper-

It all looks good to me :) As far as the Amarth/Din'dea stuff goes, I think it is a very good idea to not plan that out. I think we should let it happen IC as there are way too many factors to take into consideration...and a lot of unknowns. So yes, Kiwidinok will take her pack to the Amarth borders and request help. That doesn't mean Agrats will give it. However, Kiowa will encourage it and will add in a few wise words that will help the situation. I'm still unsure about what is going on with Agrats and after she has her change(not sure what exactly that is) I'm not sure how she will react to her Betan/friend. BUT Kiowa will push hard for the Amarth to help out. It could lead to several side plots. Like I said...best to let it all happen IC.

However, either way you look at it a huge meeting WILL be called for all of the alphas and high ranking wolves of all the packs to attend to. Each pack can choose if they will come or not.

I was also thinking with this, what if Larion came to the meeting as well? There would be a complete truce called so no one could attack him. But he could declare at this meeting that he will be trying to take over the entire land. The reason I suggest this is because it will help a lot to get the Amarth on board if the threat has been directly stated to them as well.

Does this sound any better?

Remember, IC, we all might have to make a few personal sacrifices. The purpose of this plot is to get SotW more active. So we might have to tweak our characters a little bit to make it work a bit better. It's just like how I'm going to have Kiwidinok call a retreat, but if I were playing her character fully and not tweaking it for the plot she would just rally her pack on the spot and form a massive attack on Larion...that or she would just kill him herself. It's really against her character to retreat, but for plots sake, I just overlooked that. Make sense? I think a lot of the Amarth might have to do a little bit of this...mainly Agrats since she(as far as I know) wants Din'dea wolf Thunder dead. Also, the Skah and Amarth will have to put aside their anger. And I know the Isa'fea and the Amarth might have a few members with friction between them as well. Just my opinion though. No one has to do it :)

Hmm... the only thing wrong with the Skah was that Fal threatened Agrats pup. She has no anger to them. That was other Alphas XD

Ooooo. Well, if I am correct Fal is gone right? Gilly went poof sometimes when I wasn't around :( Do you any other major IC problems that we might brainstorm a way around?

One but I'll try it not tell it. But just to let everyone know. I will not change my character's mind to fit any plot. I've avoided plots that would change my characters way of thinking unless I don't like the way they think now. But still I wouldn't sway it to an extreme.

BTW, the Skah and Amarth have been on good terms since Luna was banished. Only fault was when Fal threatened Agrats' pup and you NEVER do that to her XD She fights back in full force mauhahaha... and the plot that is going on will have her tail in a knot o_O So yeah be prepared for a different acting wolfy! Back to the old ways with her mauahahaha! Well... sort of o_O

Yeah. I have NO idea what's going on with the Amarth, and I can perfectly understand what you're saying about not changing a character even for a plot. I don't like undermining other peoples' or my own chars like that. :ph43r:

I'm just trying to sort out all the stuff we said in the plot thread into something coherent so I can sort of look at it all in one piece. There are LOTS of holes! :lol:

Alright then Niccy, no problem with that :)

I think I might remember a bit of the old Agrats...back when Takiel was around maybe? She was a sub. then...and she and Kiowa didn't have a too good start. Will it be something like she used to be back then? Like...ready to tare anyone's head off at a seconds notice type thing?

Well this helps a lot cause I had NO idea where the site was heading with the plot, other than some minor things. Thanks for putting it up nice and simple ^^

More like back when she listened to her mother. ^.^

This plot sounds so ionteresting! Could I find someway to get involved? I want to be apart of it!

This plot's all tumbly and in the early stages, so much can move around! Anybody who has ideas can still throw 'em in!

Hehe, I never knew Agrats when she still listened to her mother. Zita=n00b.

uh oh...Agrats listening to her mother? Why don't I like the sound of that? :P I can't wait to get this RP under way. Speaking of which...who's turn to post is it in the Larion thread?

Can the Lairon dieing wait till the pups are old, and with him unable to fight lil old Bray kills him as he wishes to?

Nero needs a post then I can again x.x;

Nice summary, Zita ;)

~Katie

Hmmm...maybe we should skip the Nero post for the time being? That way the rest of the plot can carry on?

Yes, probably the best idea. I'll post Tlon then =3

~Katie

I honestly think we should wait just because we've waited this long. When is she coming back anyway o_O?

She hasn't given a date =/

(forgive the not-log!)

Kiwi could post, she needs to respond to Larion attacking.

@ James: I've planned Zine killing Larion, though Brayden's welcome in on the fighting if the plot lasts that long!

@ Anja: Whee! I'm happy you found this helpful! :lol:

She is coming back on the 4th. I called to her a couple of days ago...

And not that this is relevant to the plots that everyone is talking about right now, but the Fathom/Avatar/Loki plot...the Fathom/Avatar pups have already been put up for adoption, like 3 times. Jerrin, Orca, Signature, and Ikon have all been adopted, however, I do believe that the owner of Signature relinquished her ownership of him...I'll double check with her and then get back and put him up for adoption again if anyone is interested...as for his personality and stuff, I'm sure you can find it in the adoption forum in there somewhere if you're interested.

As for the plot itself, it is intentionally kept secret, don't worry Zita, you haven't been singled and left out ^.^ It's a nice big plotyness...includes Fathom and Avatar and Loki and a pups out of each of them and then Fathom and Avatar's dads...Triton and Helcaraxe and the wolves that follow them already...so wicked. *looks off into space* Oh! Anyways, yeah just wanted to say that.

~Jess

Oh Jess, Ikon is played by my boyfriend, Nate, and he is VERY anxious to play her. So yeah, dun put her up for adoption again if you were thinking of it. ^.^

Just in case someone didn't know yet, Niccy = Hates planned fights that you already know the ending to. Very uninteresting. <_<

Tlon needs to post before Kiwi does...just in case he decides to add in his own attack.

If Nero will be back on the 4th, we might as well wait. :) However, I don't think that Tlon's post would affect his post at all. Tlon and Kiwi and Larion are fighting where as Thunder is tending to Nero. They're kind of two separate events. Sooo...Tlon could have a post in before Nero returns. I don't think it would hurt anything.

So...I chose an interesting time to reappear.

On the changing characters way of thinking note, I know it's not incredibly fair unless what your character would do just ruins the plot. I was thinking that maybe to help motivate Kiwi not to attack Larion could take a hostage? *cough* Thera, *cough* IDK, just a thought. Gotta throw my charris back in somewhere...

When I mentioned the tweaking of the characters, I meant just that...tweaking them...not changing them. I mean that if we had a wolf who could get in the way of the plot moving forward, we could just overlook the finer points of things and twist it a bit to make it work without changing your character.

I've already figured out how I will do this with Kiwidinok. See...Tlon is severely injured. Now, without tweaking her character, she would order the pack to attack Larion and she herself would fight him until she was dead or he was dead or he retreated. However, that would obviously mess up the plot. So with the tweaking things will go like this. Kiwidinok will take Tlon's being hurt a bit more hard than she would normally. Meaning, instead of her order of thinking 'get rid of attacker-->help Tlon', it will be 'help Tlon-->get pack to safety-->regroup then go back and kick wolf tail'. I'm not changing her way of thinking, I'm just tweaking with her priority list. Just thought I'd clear that up >.>

Anyways, he could take the Thera hostage, it might help. However, we already have a little hero rushing in to distract Larion while the others make their get away. Either way, I like the sound of both ideas. The one with Thera would fit Kiwidinok's personality better, but the other plot is already in effect. Merph, it's up to the others. I'll play along either way :)

Merph is right!

(Note: Zita is back on own comp now! Rejoice! :P )

Trouble is, Larion doesn't exactly take hostages. It's kind of you're-either-my-dead-enemy-or-my-living-servant with him. He doesn't really care about the Din'dea and has judged them as weak.

I agree with Kristen about changing Kiwi's priorities, and it also makes me happy that you're willing to do that. I don't like undermining other people's chars.

Oh, and there'll be plenty of undecided fights, Niccy. War's like that! :lol: I just know Larion has to die at some point, and he also has to set things in motion to begin with. Other than that, crazy stuff can happen.

You can join in if you want, Citrate! There are wide open spaces everywhere. Maybe Thera could have been asleep in the den (not unreasonable, it is/was the dead of winter) and not heard the call, and be stuck behind enemy lines?

Oh, and thanks Jess for clearing that up! ^_^ (takes pups off list)

Ok, just threw it out there.

Sure, that could be fun ^-^, I was thinking of having her just go to the dens because I believe that's where Tlon said to go. If not, she can just go there anyway thinking that was where the meeting was supposed to be. Then she could take a nap or something...that could be fun ^-^

Ok although I feel very new I've been around for awhile and well I love this idea but one question. Where does the Isa' Fea come in? If there is no plot with them I have an idea. *grins*

In Aroura's past she was the next in line to be Alpha. Her parents were very kind and let in a few wolves they shouldn' t have. They were however very old fashioned and when one of those took an interest in her they wanted her to be his mate. However. He was absolutely evil and aroura knew it. Her parents refused to believe her and attempted to force her to be his mate by encouraging him. She would have nothing to do with him. One night he attempted to force her and it turned into an all out brawl. She was injured but managed to hold him off long enough for her parents and pack to come back from the hunt. After that she was demoted from the pack and the wolf who had tried to force her was exhiled. Soon after corruption took hold and food became scarce. Her parents were declining in rule and making bad choices ultimately making the pack suffer. She eventually left not looking back.

Now all of that being said what would you think of having Larion be that wolf? It would totally freak aroura out to have him around again and it would involve the Isa' Fea. Perhaps Larion wants to get back at her for what she did to him? What do you think?

Everybody wants Larion to be the bogeyman! :ph43r:

I don't think that would work out, Larion isn't a very widely travelled wolf and there actually wasn't much of a time window between his being thrown out of the Daerok and arriving. Putting in that he had to be thrown out first, recover from some near fatal wounds, then scope out all the lands of SotW, I don't think it would work out. Larion has already forcebred with a Skah fae, and that is not really in his character but he was still recovering from some of his wounds and insane at the time so it works for the sake of the plot.

In fact, one might consider it a bit out of character for Larion to have pups with Zyattiath when that comes around, as Larion fears anything that may threaten his authority like children may. This is a reasonable paranoia, considering what he did to his own father. But the fact is Larion is starting to rot a bit between the ears. He will never be the tactical beast he was with his old pack again, his strategies are going to have some holes to be compensated for and his arrogance will likely be a main part of his downfall. His howl is an example. (You can find it written in "Hallucinary" because OEDragon and I bent the timestream so Radon could be involved)

Had Larion been in his right, healthy mind, he would never have openly declared enmity to the other packs. He would have decieved them and slowly tried to bring them down, likely with double agents hired out of the neutral lands. There was a reason Larion managed to become Alpha at two years old and keep it for nearly three years, that's a record in Daerok standards.

well alright then. I just thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

It doesn't hurt at all. ^_^ Perhaps it would be useful for a plot later on, the Isa'fea have a tendency to fall out of activity. ;)

*athem*

Yes this is Angel :P Getting Acontiae active again.. or was trying to then I saw this.

Okies

Kyras Puppies: Little Randy :P Will be kidnapped but Kyra will be able keep the other two behind her int he den. Perhaps a few other Skah wolves could hear the commotion and come to help? Then the selected baby snatcher could be chased off but Randy could be kidnapped, perhaps he just wandered to far out of his mothers reach so she couldn't get to him in time to keep him safe so on so forth. Anyways then Kyra and Bane will take turns going to the loner lands to meet Shaman for information on how the little guy is doing. I think its planned that he will try and get Randy back, as will Kyra and likely most of the Skah. Yet shes afraid to run off and leave her other two beloved darlings in fear that Larion will send someone after them. So she will be a slightly over protective mother and like completely freak on anyone who isn't skah who gets near her little ones. Anyways, perhaps Randy could grow up with Larion and Zyatts pups, but he was snatched at a age where the Skah pack had already taught him their ways and he likes the skah and misses his mother so perhaps like every night before bed he could think of them and remember their ways. Then when Zine goes to kill Larion perhaps Randy could help and then ultimately return to the skah...

Zyattiath puppies!!!

Well yea Zyattiath thinks she is the best and that she is suppose to rule the world ultimately, so her and Larion are going to hit it off just fine and dandily :lol: Anyways after she becomes alphess her and Larion will want to ensure that their bloodlines stay in power.. forever!*evil laugh* But anyways I was thinking Zyatt could have around 5 puppies, i'd adopt one and Zita could have one if she likes, but the rest will be up for adoption. Anyways they will be comepletly heartless scoundrals who know no wrong. Perhaps through the plot 1 or two puppies could die but I think I would like some of them to still remain on SOTW even after/if the kargroth go under. Their personalitys dont have to be completely insane, but pretty much close to it. Then they will tortue Randy and like scar him for life :P

The Kargroth

Perhaps after Larion dies Zyattiath could lead them and the remaining alpha litter could lead as well, but they could become something like the gang. Although they won't exactly be a pack, they would group into the loner lands and try and gain more numbers. Zyattiath won't ever give up her dream of ruling the world and as long as she has faithful followers then she will pursue that dream. Perhaps after they all heal their wounds, after the big 'kick the kargroth out of the din'dae lands show down' im assuming they will all be alittle messed up. Anyways after a while of peace they could come out fo no where and bring one more attack... though i dunno if she'd attack the din'dae or the amarth or isa'fae or even the skah... That would all be open.

Ultimately she will die, cause she doesn't give up and that is the only way to stop her.... Then perhaps either most of the Kargroth will die in the last battle and the rest disperse.

Just an Idea :)

~Angel

Oh yes. I want a puppy of doom. I'm still coming up with a name for her, but she'll be a deceptive little beast. Like her dad, but more sane. (I have a song quote for her sig. "Be my savior, and I'll be your downfall.") It might be interesting if one of the Kargroth pups is gentle-hearted, and perhaps makes friends with Randwyn. (And is then also tortured by the siblings, of course)

It also would make sense for the Kargroth to lose at least part of the litter, it would also make things uncomfortable for Zyatt if she has only two or three out of five or six puppies, because she would have milk for more pups than she's feeding.

I have some kind of scene working out in my mind with Randwyn trying to sleep and his evil half-sister bothering him. I'll have to write it OOC. :lol: Scarred for life indeed. Poor Randwyn.

ABOUT THE FIGHT:

Hrmm, I'm considering dragging Mesmiardes in now. Alqua Waters is reasonably close to Raust Hill, so Mesmiardes might hear the fighting. It's in his nature to be attracted to any sort of scuffle (he gets bored a lot) and might just decide to aid Larion. (He'd go with the underdog, more interesting that way) Also, if another wolf shows up it might effect Kiwidinok's judgement to get the pack away sooner, especially now that some of the young wolves are nearby and vulnerable.

Any thoughts?

Eh...I know I'm new, very new, but could Beowulf or Cuan have a part in somthing? I'm leaning slightly towards Beowulf, seeing as that Cuan has no skills in...anything, but yeah, it doesn't have to be a big part, just somthing. It's okay if you don't use one of them, I'm just asking. Oh, as for whatever part I do play, if any, I would like to do somthing for the good guys, seeing as I can't roleplay as an evil wolf to save my life.
~Terry

You're welcome to join in if you get any ideas. Beowulf could get involved, seeing as to how she's joining the Skah and there will by the Randwyn-being-kidnapped issue. It's really up to you. My philosophy is "There's room for everybody in the enormous plot!"

As for the enormous Nero cloaked in mystery part (well, his part isn't actually that big) I prefer to play by ear, you know? That's why my stories' plots never work out ^^ But yes, he's gone |DARK| but it can be reversed. He happens to be my first true meanie to play (If you call Kazz or Rani mean since they're in Amarth you should be beaten severely with a wet noodle). But yes, hes in BLUD mode and so will probably end up against the Din'dea for a bit... It depends on the way the game is played (The roll of the dice, you know). I hope that managed to either baffle you more or clear things up a little for ya!

~Avatar

Alright, important stuff here...

I just posted Kiwidinok and it should speed things up A LOT. Please, for the sake of my and Kiwidinok's sanity, no more wolves entering into the current topic. Kiwidinok just called a retreat so everyone should actually be leaving the topic right now and heading over to the Amarth lands. Anyone who still wants to join in can meet up with the Din'dea there.

After all, the main battle hasn't even started yet.

For the sake of moving this plot forward before it gets too complicated with future plots and/or dies, there was a bit of god-modding and pping in my post. If anyone objects to it, please let me know what you object to and how you think it should be changed and I would be more than happy to fix it :)

I'm sick with strep throat and I'm moving on the 21st and may not have internet access, so I want to get as much done now as possible. If I end up without internet access for good, I will remove Kiwidinok by IC means...or...for the sake of the plot...I may TEMPORARILY adopt her out until I can return.

YOU POSTED! YOU POSTED! I LOVE YOU! :lol: *falls to floor weeping happy*

Yes. Yes. Now Larion can post! WHOO! *dances*

Ok is there anyway my character Moon gets put into this if she is accepted into the Isa'Fea Pack? Fathom told me she would be a subordinate and so I was wondering if there was anyway Moon could play into this like a part that needs to be put in or something please?


Anything at all???


~Moon (on C-Box Wolf Refuge)

I'm not sure. A lot of things will be happening at once, and much of the plot isn't nailed down. I think ideas might come when the packs gather to decide what to do about the Kargroth threat, but until then I don't know anything about the Isa'fea involvement nor how Moon could be involved in an important role. No doubt the Isa'fea might come up with a plan of action to help out, and Moon could possibly volunteer to do something for them if the occasion comes. I wouldn't know though, I have no wolves in that pack. *shrug*