Okay, most of you know I tend to have random ideas bouncing around in my head, and today is no different. :-P Since Tlon put out a call for plot ideas, thought I'd just throw this out.

What if we have a sort of...mystery type thing. (bear with me, idea is still kinda fuzzy and will need much input from others) I was thinking a wolf spirit of sorts begins to appear to various members of a pack, or even certain members of all the packs, leads them to an area in the neutral terra, then dissapears. The spirit is at this constantly, wearing down the paitence and even sanity of those he appears to.

No why he's appearing and what he's trying to say...erm well that's where my creative engine cuts off. No idea here.

I know it might test the boundries of "realism" that we strive to maintain here, but twas just a random idea. Lemme know what you think and how we can improve it! ^.^

~The elusive Digger

Ooh, what if the spirit is trying to warn certain, more responsible members of all of the packs to an event that will take place if courses are not altered? And as to the boundries of realism; we've got talking wolves with alliegances that war against each other. ;) Plus, there's already spirits around for each pack.

But I was thinking we'd heave to create a new mystery wolf. If an Amarth say a Skah spirit he'd probably ignore it. I'm thinking something regal, with no connections to any of the packs.

What about a God? Perhaps he's come to warn them of.... [insert any other ideas] ... and if the packs don't do somat to fix it then .... [insert appropriate fate/doom] .... Perhaps make all of the packs work together. Involve all of SotW?

Eh, my two pennies been tossed.

uhh, hate to be all skeptical, but I have to draw the line at Gods. I'm just a very religious person and wouldn't really apreciate it.

*Cecchetti

*Raises her hand and politely asks for permission to be somewhat of a pain in the butt*

Um, while I kinda like the idea, I have to say I sort of have similar sentiments of Cecchetti with the whole gods thing. I'm not trying to be a party pooper, and while I realize that different people have different beliefs or comfort levels with such things, I, too, would be uncomfortable with my characters having to interact directly with (such as having it come directly to one of my charries) or indirectly with (having to accept the presence of) a god.

Just my $0.02...

Though here's an idea, and it's very rough draftish, because I'm typing as it comes.

Somehow, perhaps by some natural disaster, all Alphas are seperated from their packs. They find themselves all together in a neutral terra...to make things a little interesting, perhaps a neutral terra known to no wolf of SotW. None of the Alphas know where their pack lands, or any of the pack lands, are from there, and must somehow find their way back home. Perhaps have to work together to do so.

Meanwhile none of the packs have the foggiest idea what has happened to their Alphas, and try to find them.

Just another $0.02 to throw out there.

Oh, I love it! and there could be total caos back at home while the packs wonder where their alphas went and betas try to keep everything calm. Meanwhile, figers start to point!

I like that one better LM. But what natural disaster could possibly seperate all of the Alphas from their packs and have them all together in one spot? o.O We need to brainstorm.

And what might keep them from going off their own way? Words of wisdom from the less impulsive Alphas? The sense of danger/sense of safety in numbers?

How would we keep them from simply picking up a scent trail and finding their ways home? Could we create obsticles/hazards?

Just another thought. Sorry for any offense I may have incurred by suggesting a God. :ph43r:

None taken Gil ^-^

Anyways, I think a tornado should do the trick in getting the alphas away from home. Ironicaly, they could all get hurt except fathom and there can be a new respect for fathom when the other alphas heal. The scent trail can be long lost.

Just a ruff sketch to throw out there

Well if no one has a problem with the whole "ghost" thing, what if the ghost leads all the Alphas away? Kind of, smack them over the head with the "I -want-you-to-go-here" stick? None of hte other Alphas communicate with each other very much, so they would have no idea the same thing is happeneing to the others, probably thinking they're special in the fact the ghost is appearing to them.

Lead on different days or by different paths, all the alphas end up in the same place, and BOOOM huge ugly storm or something, forcing them to huddle together for a while and then make their way back (seeing how the landscape is completely changed from the storm/tornado)

Meh? *holds idea up for scrutiny and objections* If people are uncomfortable with the ghost idea too, that's fine. We can tweak a the storm or disaster idea instead. ^.^

I like the Ghost/Spirit idea better than just the random natural event all itself. It makes more sense, and we have Spirits on the site anyhow, so I'm not sure how that could be considered stretching the realism or offensive. But I still think we'll have to create a new Spirit, or use all four from each pack, which would involve their RPers, who may not have time for a plot.

Why would Fathom be the only wolf not injured? I'm not sure I understand that bit, or why he would need more respect, seeing as he's an Alpha he should be the most respected in his pack.

I'm curious as to how this will end up.

Hm, I can go either way with the ideas, but I suppose the ghost one is less reandom. Perhaps the spirits could be long lost wolves the alphas used to know.

what I meant with Fathom was if there was going to be a natural desastor, then he could be the only one not hurt enough to take care of himself, but the other alphas may not be and he can nurse them back to health. He'd gain 'respect' because he nursed them back to health and this could help incourage the alphas to stick together.

*waves stuff in other members faces who haven't replyed to topic* Don't be shy! All ideas and opinions are welcomed!

In other words words Gill, Fathom is an Alpha and a Healer so that's why he would be able to take care of himself and the others B)

I like the whole idea with the spirits leading the alphas away but how could they just like... lead them away. I don't think all the alphas would just sort of leave if a spirit was encouraging them to. But if it was to include a spirit from each pack... I don't think the Amarth or Din'Dea have spirits yet. Do they?

The only reason I would be against this plot, personally, is the fact it has the ability to bring the packs together. If all of the alphas end up bonding in this crucible, wouldn't those bonds hold after the ordeal? Wouldn't it unite the packs somehow? Then all that would be left is happiness and fluffy bunnies.

Or perhaps.. its a good thing? The alphas come back all friendly friendly, and their old packs outcast them. Resulting in several power vacuums and challanges for leadership. Chaos.. Allowing for foreign wolves the opportunity to come in and seize control.

On second thought, I like this idea. :argh:


Either that or the spirit only talks to select wolves, and only they can see/interact with it. Then the rest of their packs see them as loopy, and cast them out. Maybe the spirit teaches them things.. unnatural things. 1 from each pack and a loner are taken (not Alphas) and they are changed slightly. They themselves go through some sort of enlightning ordeal and return with new wisdom/knowledge, perhaps about a new greater threat to all wolves or.. a power of some sort.

I am likeing this ideer! I don't think that it works only for the good of the packs though, for instance some of the Alphas might not get along and their conflicting views on what to do and when would stir up a deal of conflict within their small group. This would later, of course, be transferred to the packs where we would finnaly get out of that Skah vs. Amarth rut and let the other packs have in on the fun.

I do belive that more than just the Alphas would be taken however. Most wolves wouldn't find themselves alone and then trott off after some phantasma of the mist; they'd take a freind! So maybe the ALphas and another packmeber, one high in the ranks of their own pack and the next in command to the Alpha, (given that they and the Alpha get along) are swept along with them. That way the massive chaos and lying accusation can fly in the homelands while the Alphas and their compadres duel the land to make their way home. Power seizure could occur in the absence of the packs's strong executive leaders.

I like the spirits being there (each pack did have a spirit but I don't remeber them all, but they were played by prominant people), but I do have one question: Why would the spirits be leading them there? What purpose would they have in isloating the Alphas in the face of a storm that would possibly kill off the packs?

Ideas for the natural dissater include: fire, flood. I don't think a tornado would be a good idea- you can't escape one of those on foot and certainly not live through one is you are a wolf. Its not logical. Also, I like the Fathom thing. As healer no Alpha would die because he could save them. Also he would need to be unijured for he hath a heavy plot on his shoulders, one that I really need to be posting on but am stuck in homework... But here are my ideers anyhow.

OOoo some great additions. And as far as all the Alphas getting along if fluffy butterfly happiness.....*rotfl* I don't think you need to worry about that, even if they do manage to "get along" for a short amount of time ;-) *tries to picture Fal and Aro getting along with butterflies and puppy dogs* ;-)

Anyone else got an idea about why the spirits would be leading them to a secluded area?

I like the idea of the rest of hte pack thinking those who can see the ghosts are crazy...might add some political tension among the ranks.

Umm, I don't know, I was liking just alphas and considering that they're all either mated or getting mates...yeah.

As for driving them away...well, it shouldn't be hard to convince an Isa'Fae to follow a spirit, but i'm not sure on the rest, but as stated before, it donsen't have to be the official pack spirit, it could be the spirit of someone they formally knew.

Or this could be different intirely, it dosen't have to be alphas, it could be anyone or a mixture, but as to why...I'm working on it.

My favorite part about this plot is the conflicts it will cause back at home, so I say we keep at least the alphas being lead away ;)

I also agree with Digger on the 'getting along when back home' deal. I'm pretty sure whatever peace may happen would soon disapear.

hm...maybe peace could be the spirits' reason for this separation, but it fails in the end or just fails when alpha positions change...*shrug*

I think I like the flood idea for natural desaster because you can still get hurt, but, reasonalbly not die.

That's all for now,

*Cecchetti

I come! Okies, I thought about this...now, I hope this wasn't supposed to create some mutual bond between the Alphas that was supposed to last until they perish, no matter how fuzzy and transparent that line may get at times...whether that be majority of the time or not, lol...because there is a plot in the workings that would and will cause the Amarth and Isa'fea to be at odds, so...and plus, there is a plot idea that I must PM to Diggy, I'd prefer it not to be made public, at least not yet. *rubs hands together evilly* Mwahahaaa! *goes to PM Diggy*

~Jess

I like this plot too! ^_^! Very nice. Natural disaster hmm? There is a volcano slap bang in the middle of Din'dea lands? =/ Or anotehr Hurricane or something?

Oh, Jess. If you have a forum wide plot, I would like to know as well, being admin and all.

~Katie

Uh...yeah...I am hoping that Diggy still has a copy of the information, because I kinda dont. So, if she PM's me back and there is a quote in there from the original PM of my entire explaining, I shall send it to you Katie.

~Jess

In future, I'd appreciate it if you would tell me as well if it is something effects the entire site.

~Katie

(Don't worry about it now, I know.)