We should try and push people to join Isa'Fae. To do that, we're going to need some sort of excitement. Plots? Puppies? Corruption? *sigh* I once had a wolfess in Isa'Fae, and I never found it as interesting as the other packs. Right now, it's basically the "I-don't-fit-anywhere-else" pack. (sorry to those Isa'Faes we mentioned -- just making a point!) I think it may need a bit more personality, and perhaps new Alphas. So, since I have waaaaay too much free time, I made a quick little chart. (see what Organization Class does to me?!)

Problem::: Obviously, there are very few active members in Isa'Fae. They are all great roleplayers, and it's rather sad that we have to see them wait days for replys. Basically, Isa'Fae is a nobody pack. Little Personality to them. I mean, look at it. Din'Deas are brilliant, Amarth are evil, and Skah are kind and welcoming. Isa'Faes are...the leftovers.

Solutions::: There are many, many courses of action, these are just a few I've drawn up -- if you have any more, PM me, and I'll add them. These can be all used, or mis-matched I suppose, to suit your needs.

Idea one: This one is pretty basic. Add more to the description of Isa'Fae, something that'll give them real personality. We have the good, the bad, the smart...why not something like the head-strong? The heroic? The arrogant? The family-oriented? The disabled? The secretive? The dreamers? So many possibilites!

Idea two: In my opinion, this one should be mixed with Idea one. New Alphas. I understand that others have many things to do, but helf the reason Isa'Faes are so inactive is new members don't get in for weeks, therefor excitement is few and far between. Picking newer, more active members would be better.

Idea three: Instead of just having new Alphas, we could make this a major revamp. We could have something break apart the Isa'Faes, and have them slowly form a new pack. Packs don't always last forever, expecially if they aren't properous. This way, people who want a shot at becoming Alpha of a new pack can get a shot at it. There'll probably be a "Dark Age" of sorts, with fighting over positions, and lots of little "mini-packs", or groups of wolves that travel together. Eventually, it'll all sort out into a new pack, with a personality of it's own. The idea of something entirely new, with so many open positions, will definately draw more people.

If we don't do something: If we don't do something, Isa'Fae will eventually erode into a nothing, with one active member or something. Then we have this "blah" pack where no one lives. Also, if we don't have another outlet for newcomers to go into, the other packs will be overcrowded. Skah and Din'Dea are already reaching their limits, and Amarth is doing okay too.


Right -- anyways, sorry for the rambling, but I'd really like to see something done about Isi'Fae. Mods, one of you needs to get with Emily and talk this issue out with her -- I don't want to see the other packs swamped!

--Love and Concern Always,
Zeph

Very good idea. I strongly agree. The Isa'fea need...more...personailty, as to say, to them. Since the alphess is leaving, and the alpha is never here they need to pick a new one. I guess I will run Shania in the debate (I am not sure if that is right word XP) Alos, mini-packs-great ideas. Yeah, I want a shot at the alpha thing XP

Anyways, I think the Isa'fea should be the...brave and arrogant. You know, they won't take any crap from the Amarth XP But still, we should keep the Isa'fea, and soon enough, they might get more members. Still, a new pack ould be formed. I'd like to see two evil packs, so they will fight and the Skah will be safe!

Oh and that is all I have to say. Thank you all

---True Friend of all,
Snow Star

Snow,

Hey, thanks for your encouragement! I'd sure like a bite at the Alpha position as well! *grin* Oh, to finally have a position higher than Subordinate! It seems thats all my poor wolfies are doomed to a life as a Subordinate. :P

Anyways, the idea of an arrogant, headstrong pack sounds great - they'll get into a ton of trouble, and we won't need to worry about it ever getting boring.

As for the evil idea -- I'm not so sure. Amarth needs more folks in it, and if it were to have another evil pack, that would mean less for Amarth. Neither pack would flourish that way. Or maybe I'm wrong, I dunno, I think we need more opinions. ;)

--Always,
Zeph

<.< well, fang and naiari'll be having pups, so that should already make isa'fea a tad more active.

Hmm, I realize I haven't been the most active person (I play Rosamaria). I like the idea of forming some sort of plot that sparks innterest in the land, but I don't know if I agree with spliting up the pack. It might create mass confusion for the admins. because they might have to set up new boards for the "newly formed packs." Just my opinion. As for their nature, maybe they could be the spirited and the brave. In short, they just won't give up on things they believe in and they're not afraid to fight to protect their pack or their beliefs. For some reason I just can't picture them as being over as zealous as the Amarth or Skah. *shrugs* It's like 6:15 in the morning for me so I can't really think of any ideas. I do agree that something needs to be done though.

Kivata/Rosamaria

I appreciate both your opinions - pups'll definately spurr some sort of activity, if only slightly.
And you have a good point, Kivata, I didn't think of that...*laugh* Come to think of it, the whole pack splitting up doesn't seem like such a brilliant idea after all. Then all the poor Mods'll be stuck doing all this work!

It seems that the people who've posted so far are opting for an outgoing, brave, and slightly arrogant pack. Lets wait for some more opinions though.

If anyone else has an idea, a comment, or critisism, please say so! :P

Zeph.... GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!

Well my friend it seems that two great minds think alike because as we the speak the mods ( such as myself ) had been debating on the matters of Isa'fea for quite sometime. But let my point get out that it isn't easy when the admins aren't there! Hades had been trying to get a hold of Emily for quite sometime but being inactive we barely find the time to even say hello. And when issues are brought up Kisu and my proposals are completely blown off!! Not even a single word, and being the two most active mods we DON'T have much of a say in anything. You cannot comprehend how frustrating it is when our regulations or helpful suggestions are to never put into action. But this time I REALLY didn't want to bring this matter into the public just yet. However, you have addressed the most important issues and well seeing as how it's too late I suppose I might as well add my opinion on this subject. Hopefully this might enlighten a few and get some ideas flowing.

#1.) Yes, we don't need another heinous pack, and as our Kivata said it strikes a lot of confusion. Which brings up another issue.... because considering we have wolves that suddenly go inactive how do you think mini-herds of them will actually stay active? If wolves want to be placed in a rogue group then the neutral terra is always open for such. Until then, I think the mods will agree, that it will be very difficult to keep an eye on all of them.

#2.) Arrogant... evil....brave? To be honest I always hated Isa'fea... they remind me of grown wolves trying to find their pup hood and living this "La de da" dream since nothing ever happens. So I think we need conflicts, danger, excitement, activity, plots, and new alphas! However everyone has a tinge of arrogance, and I do believe that Skah is the wolf pack of valiant & gallant behavior so that won't cut it either.... Plus alphans usually determine the traits of a pack as of how he/she presents oneself, thus giving the general idea what the subjects should be.

#3.) All right this is what I think Isa'fea has potential of becoming. I think we should stick to it's main idea... but add a little flavor to it, and just tweak it around so that it may also be realistic as well... evolved some. Hope you enjoy it…

A New Age Dwells
( Some background/ Intro )
The Isa'fea are a spiritual pack, but in the old times did they once become the ultimate mother hood of shamans, prophets, and Sacred Dire lineage. However, as their once great leader Jubei passed on his loyal subjects questioned who should lead them? However a riot broke out on this debate, dictators and rogues spilling their own blood for this monarchy position till the whole clan broke apart into three separate groups thus creating the: Din'dea, the Skah, and the Amarth. Still these three packs thrive for glory as Skah and Amarth rival each other to this very day. The Din'dea shying away from public eyes to become an inner-knowing, secretive pack that has been independent for sometime. However the Isa'feas, those who still remain firm on their convictions had stayed upon their ancestor's realm, hoping that one day a great, all mighty leader, a wolf true to his word shall lead them back into their once spiritual home. To continue the lost rituals, the fluent tongue that their kinsmen once spoke, to teach the youth once again that Dire Gods are always with them... But if only a leader still existed…

The Isa'fea
( Traits & all )
As said before the Ias'fea could be those of a spiritual pack, ones who believe that Dire Gods still own the world. They assume that such immortal beings control changes ( Age, season, Night & day ) They also believe that these beings control plagues as well ( diseases, injuries, death, downfalls ) and being those of spiritual wolves, Isa'fea could be in other words.... HIGHLY Superstitious. Some traits they carry could be those of loyalty, justice, and equality of one another. As well being the most joyful and benevolent then Skah but they are also full of wisdom... and are quite musical like a minstrel, in other words. They believe music is the flow of the warrior, for it sends a rhythmic beat that gives an impulse to a new awakening heart. These wolves tend to have beautiful singing vocals, dance in their formal rituals, and are quite poetic.... maybe not a riddler alike Din'dea but holding a strong love for their festivals and music to glorify each passing day. But since the wolves are more for justice and equality had they evolved themselves into something....greater. Like all wolves each pack is a dictator but instead they elect, they vote for their leader by the people and for the people ( Silly old government ). Any who, the Isa'fea doesn't want anything to do with war, they want to keep the peace then rather destroy, as well give forth their loyalty to the one they know that shall lead them into a new generation. But being those of justice the other foreign packs look down upon them, for this type of thing of equality has never been considered before.... ( Do I smell that smelly smell of conflict? *cackles* ).

Most Importantly
I was thinking... if my background information is accepted then how about the Din'dea, the Skah, and the Amarth seek advice and help from the pack they have originated from? The Isa'fea could be the spiritual leaders who hold up councils and meetings of peace, and determine those of fate ( For example if one wolf is to be accused for something the leaders could determine whether they be banished.... Or even executed *winks* for plots of course... ). I mean if you think about it, it would be interesting to see the sister packs of Amarth and Skah together WITHOUT fighting in front of their superiors. Of course they’ll argue, bicker, and insult each other so have no worries there my friends. But any who, this could be a pack those who use converse instead of provoking violence.... of course this also means that Amarth won't pick a fight with them... Isa'fea how so much potential now, that it could be the father pack of SOTW. It's like a parent confronting it's children.

Alphas
( Alpha traits and electives )
For a spiritual leader I would think that the alphas would be old wolves, elderly but full of wisdom nonetheless. They think best for their pack and are either laud or envied for their knowledge, as well keeping the peace, letting their convictions flourish, and of course having excellent choices during these meetings for their fellow packs. However, I would think that the alpha male or female should act like Confucius ( OMG! I love Confucius!!! *opens a bunch of fortune cookies* ). But holding a characteristic like an old sweet creature, both introspective and full of benevolent life. But don't let this old age trick you, if anything this elder will fight for it's pack's justice, never afraid to back down from his/her conviction even if it means death. Now if my idea is to play out then we're going to need an alpha who is active, willing, and determined to the pack. We need someone that knows the rules, that has excellent writing, and is perhaps a definite "Approval" for this grand position. Considering that I am a shaman and seeress from a Sacred Dire lineage I can help out a lot ( I have a lot of Gods/Goddesses we can use ) but I don't know if I can be an alphess.... So I think Zeph & Kivata would make an excellent choice.... but we can also hold a vote as who wants the new alpha position.
( Side Note: So if anyone wants this for grabs then reply now and I shall make a poll ).

Reason
Kivata I think you'll be our best bet, because I already know you play Gilaya who I believe is a tutor? So if you want... perhaps you could use Gilaya as the new alphess, since you have this mature, elder background about you. Calm, collective, but willing as well introspective and kind. A good trait for this new age since you have lovely writing as well knowledge about the rules. Zeph, as said before I think you should be considered a mod. I believe you can play out being the alpha as well and perhaps Kivata and you can team up on this one. I know you can write marvelous rps if you try, as well you know the rules by heart, it's just I always see you playing the spunky heroic wolf. So perhaps this new "elder" type could certainly enlighten you a bit, eh? *pats your back* So what does everyone think? I just love opinions.…*Opens another fortune cookie*

*Giggles like a teletubie* Oh my.... Better take medication for that :blink: *Walks off wearing glass high heels with swimming goldfish in them*

Yes, I mostly agree with Gangrel, only that the alpha of the pack has to be someone active, and someone who knows the pack well enough to be the alpha. Isn't the pack supposed to vote? I am making longer posts, but still, being still in Elem. School, I am not that familer with how to spell and know large words such as Gangrel and Kivata. It is a little hard to post with big words, so yeah XD

Anyways, I think I will put Shania into the voting. I know how it is to be alpha, belive me. I am mostly active, and I do right quite enough to make a long post to some. But I think it should be a wolf who knows how the pack goes, not just a new loner coming in. Though we do need to pick fast, so loners can come and get into the pack.

I know plenty of you think I am too young to do anything. Some think I can't post right, others think that my wolves are...lets just say...stupid...but hey, that is the way I am. Have a problum with me, just PM me and tell me what it is. Hey, I am a fith grader who knows eith-grade computer technology. I know Gangrel and Zeph and Kivata never insulted me for this, but others have. Since i joined this site, my writing skills have improved remarklebly(sp?) and I did a good paper, that the principle took me out of class, and told me herself, that she loved it, along with the writing teacher, so don't underestimate my ideas.

Now,any comments, or ideas on my post, please reply here, if you want to. Thankyou

~Snow Star

Oh heavens no, I would never insult you for such. If anything I admire you Snow because I haven't seen such a young person in my life to be so interested in wolves, let alone writing! I have seen your work and to be honest you write better then most freshmen in high school I have seen. You try your best to grasp the rules, being active, and improving your posts. Though we have ran into a few mishaps it flatters me so that you keep your determination on such high grounds.

Heck, we all been through your writing period. Believe it or not I use to be worse then you! I was just 9 when I first started writing but soon I got better and better. And that's what's going to happen with you. Now that your dealing with a big crowd your just going to keep on enhancing, improving, and learning. So keep trying! And if anyone, and I mean ANYONE insults you for attempting such high grounds please inform me so that I may wack them with my over-sized mallet, Pika-poo ( lol ). Any who, I shall add you in the voting selection but before that I still want my opinions... :D

Aww...*sniffs and hugs* thank you sooo much! I canot wait to get into a class where I can learn to write better! Next year is middle school...*sigh* and I will miss my teachers sooo much :crybaby:

I know you would never insult me. As for my program...well..I guess you could say that it works with me, since my sigs turned up write. Zeph's says I did a great job on hers. All I did was just copy pics, and merged them, then used a paint system for the borders :lol:

Oh and you do perfect writing! :D *sniff* I feel so loved around here! Anyways, everyone have any opinions, post here like Gangrel said! :D

I, as I'm sure most of you know, am quite the nag on persisting the development of the Isa' Fea, and would love to see some wondrous literates, or well and dedicated writers rping the aplhas and I eagerly await to see who is picked. I contemplated on if I wanted to try to compete on being alpha, expanding my restricted vocabulary and my knowledge of the Isa' Fea pack, and the answer is muddled. I am very active, but I think I'd rather be something of higher rank...QUESTION!
How do you work yourself up from subordinant? Just wondering. Such a thing seems impossible when there may be so many active members in a single pack who may be wondering about a position. I myself have yet to join a pack yet, because I've been waiting for the Isa' Fea, but I am still happily awaiting the legacy of the Isa' Fea unfolding. If a mod or someone would, could they PM me if they've time and help explain some things to me? I'd really appreciate it. 'Till then I brandish a sponser sign stating: Let the rebirthing of Isa' fea begin!

Okies, I do like a lot of these ideas! The thing about them being arrogent, yet highly spiritual is very good.. hough with the background info, I have to say that Amarth were the founding pack, followed by the other three, who were the sons of the founding wolf... its all in the history, anyway.. *hrm* ... ok, my mind has gone on a blank.. guess thats what pot-noodles do to ya...

Sirloth

All my friends,

Oh your ideas are marvelous! I expecially liked the idea of the spiritual pack (I can just imagine so many different posts like that! Such amazing possibilities!!) And I am beyond flattered, Gangrel, I really am. *huge blush* Such a compliment from you! Well, I'd happily accept the position of Alpha if no one else is found suitable. I'm not sure of how I'd be able to work a new Alpha into a pack, one who has never been there before. Thus, if new Alphas are on the horizion, it's best you inform the people who had won the votes, so they can make a character and get them aquainted with the pack and all.

Snow-- I would never insult you! I started roleplaying when I was seven! And I actually thought you were 13 or so. :P You write like a middle scholl student, and you'll definately do well there! Yeah, if anyone, anyone bothers you about it, tell me an' Gangrel, and we'll set 'em streight. *cracks knuckles menecingly*

Articous, your questions are not at all bothersome! I, and I'm sure all the mods, appriciate your activity. We need more members like you ;)
As for rising ranks -- I've been here quite some time, and a few of my charries may be on the verge of a promotion, if I play my cards right. Basically, make yourself known , and act respectful and in character in your posts. (which, I've seen, you do). Usually promotions occur during major reforms or pack meetings. So, if you'd like to snag a nice spot in Isa'Fae, you'll most likely get one if you stick around their lands and get to know the members. ;) PM me if you have any questions -- I have too much free time anyways. :D


Always True,
Zeph (/Aun/Nebula)

Wow, great ideas all around. Perhaps we can work something out with the Amarth actually being the founding pack and then them falling "out of the light" so to speak, and the Isa'fea taking up the position once held by the Amarth? (that was just off the top of my head, so feel more than free to comment and change).

Snow, I must say as one of the people that's watched you RP since the beginning, you have improved and become a member (in my eyes anyway) of the upper ranks of RPers. While big words and flowery language can be nice, I think the mark of a good RPer is someone who is dedicated and active, two attributes you fulfill very well. As for the spelling...*pfhhhhh* I can't spell to save my life, and I'm in college. I personally always copy my posts into Word before posting so everyone can actually read what I'm trying to say!

Since everyone seems to be okay with the idea of changing the Isa'fea, while we're working out what they'll be like I think we first need to elect an Alpha and/or alphess. Everyone who is interested in becoming a Alpha/Alphess, please post here, which character you will be putting up to the poll and why you think they should be Alpha/Alphess. Then, the Mods will go through and create a poll for everyone to vote on! Yay for positive changes! I can' tell everyone how much it means to me to see members concerned over such things. In some RPs, the other members would just ignore the problem and leave the site, causing it's eventual downfall and collapse. Not at SOTW though... we have such loyal dedicated members....*HUGGLES EVERYONE* sniff I Love you guys!!!!!! :crybaby:

You know, two people can be alpha, though they have to be mates. *looks at Zeph with a smile* If we can, me and Zeph could make wolves for the part, or Xeph can make a male wolf :P Just an ideaOh and I know one person who insulted me, Das'ern. Remember the size thing with Shania? He first said that I roleplayed really bad. Thank goodness he is leaving!!!

Phew, yeah, thank goodness! He'd be cowering if he were still here *puts chainsaw away with a sigh* Next one I'll get 'em...

Yeah -- If I were to be picked, and if no one else were suitable, I'd need to make a new wold (sicne Zeph has a mate XD) and that'll be quite a bit of work to introduce, and gain respect.

*Blushes* Wow…Gangrel, thank you so much for the compliment. I’ve been trying my best with the posting and I’m glad you find it up to your standards. I must say I admire your posting skills and I hope to write like you some day as well. Now, before I make any comments about the plot itself, I’d like to say something to Snow Star. I think you’ve really, REALLY improved since you started roleplaying here. Not only have you increased the length of your posts, but you’ve also gotten better at your spelling and other grammatical skills that take many people a long time to learn. For a fifth grader, you’re doing quite well. One thing you must understand though is no one here is perfect. All of us are flawed in our writing in one way or another. The best way to learn is to keep roleplaying and just have fun. *Winks* You’re an important person to the site and I’m glad you’re so interested to improve it.

All right. Now as for my opinions. Gangrel, I love the ideas you have for the Isa’fea when it comes to the spiritual aspect. I think it be an interesting change considering the traits of the other packs. Using them as the “jury” so to speak when it comes to cases involving other packs sounds very interesting and I’m all for it. It seems like the Isa’fea would be more of the peace keeping kind of pack, which would make sense if its spiritual.

As for the position of alpha, well I must say, I’m truly flattered. The only wolf I play in the Isa’fea right now is Rosamaria and, yes, I am a tutor with Gilyla. Now, I know Snow Star has been looking to be an alpha for a long time with her characters, but like she said, it should be up to a vote. Once we do the poll, we’ll let everyone else decide. What I was thinking is, I don’t fully want to take Gilyla out of the Skah since Kesirah is there, and Gilyla herself is meant to teach the pups. Maybe if people would rather have Shania and Zeph as alphas, Gilyla could act like a spiritual beta advisor between the Skah and the Isa’fea. She’d still be connected to each pack but she’d have the power to guide both Skah and Isa’fea…or she could act like a peacekeeper. That way if Shania or Zeph are too busy, I can remove Gilyla from the Skah to help accept other wolves. That way, we’d have three greeting newcomers instead of just two. I believe Gilyla would be a good candidate for alpha or just the peacekeeper because she is older and she probably would believe in such things as the Dire Gods. It’s in her nature to keep the peace, and she normally doesn’t lose her temper unless either her daughter is threatened, or her pack is. I don’t know if it would work well but I figure maybe it’d be nice to have some sort of contact between Skah and Isa’fea. It would make more sense if we go with the whole “jury” trait since they both packs would have a reason to turn to the other to discuss problems they might be having.

Anyway, if you want to nominate Gilyla as alpha, then you may. And if you’d rather have her as a spiritual beta, then that’s fine as well. I just want to do what’s best for the site and everyone else. Thanks

Kivata

Kivata,

Oh, don't you dare be modest! *waggles finger* Your one of the best roleplayers here, in my opinion! Again, Zeph h as a mate and was just accepted into Skah -- so I doubt it will be he who will be able to join the Isa'Fae. But, if I am to be counted in the vote, I'd probably want to make another character -- one whom is a bit better suited for the job.

So, I'll probably make him in a few mins, because I would definately like to have a wolf invovled in the Isa'Fae plotlines anyways. I'll make him to the standards, proud and spiritual sort of thing. But, until more information is provided, I'll keep him at a pretty low profile, just meeting the others. If someone else is found to be Alpha/ess, I would definately like to have a well-known wolf around for the ride, and to perhaps snag a Beta or Guardian position. ;)

Someone should make a thred (or a few XD), on the personalites, alphas, and high-ranked members of the Isa'Fae. But can we all do this without the help of Em and the other Admins?

Frankly, I think the aplha should be someone whos already in the pack, having somene just pop up and saying "hey guess what, im taking over." would be a bad idea. <.< Though I nominate Naiari for alphess <.<

I have Mala in the Pack. I wold like her to be alphess if possible.

*nod* Yeah, I was thinking about that last night, Ikari. Still, I'm popping a wolf o' my own into the action -- I couldn't resist. :lol: He probably won't get accepted into the pack until the new Alphas are firmly in place, but I still really want to meet the other members of the pack -- find out whos active and all.
Well, I know nothing of who are candidates for the Alphas, Aplin, but I'm pretty sure the Mods do. *nods* You can ask them, I suppose.

Tisk, your just grubbing for power, aint you? First beta in one pack, now you want alpha in another <.<

My younger sister Role plays a wolf called Zarreth here. And shes interested in having Zarreth becoming Alpha.

All right, all right I do believe we have enough! The polls shall start and whoever wins, wins. No complaints, not buts, and of course no bragging and all that understood? This is a fair game and if anything I want the person that deserves this position the most.

Kivata, now you've given me a good idea with all this. The Isa'fea pack shall be spiritual and will carry the traits as said. As well, they will be the superiors to hold trials and all of that. However, perhaps we should consider a council of wolves? Of course, the Isa'fea Alphans shall be head while one wolf representing each pack shall be present as well. Considering Amarth wants nothing to do with peace will their spot remain vacant until otherwise. However, I believe Kivata shall be the one that deserves such a position in the council, representing Skah of course. As for Din'dea we shall wait a tad longer, because I still need to get my wolf situated. And if anything we don't need the madness of voting anymore... <_<