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Title: Interesting Facts About Bttf
Description: Stuff that wasn't in the movies


needles1987 - September 6, 2007 08:13 PM (GMT)
Doc was once engaged to a woman named Jill Wooster. She was the Dean's daughter and apparently liked Jules Verne. Dean Wooster asked Doc to participate in one of three projects: Xerox, Edsel, and Chemical Warfare. Doc refused to do any of them, although Marty tried to persuade Doc to do Xerox. Dean Wooster told Doc that he can't marry his daughter if he doesn't cooperate. Jill told Doc to do it for her if he won't do it for her father. Doc still refused and Jill left him saying she never liked Jules Verne. This happened during the week that Doc and Marty got the Delorean out of the Delgado Mine.

When George was 12, he nearly stood up for a friend, Billy Stockhausen, who was being bullied, but did not, and has hated himself for it ever since. In 1954, he tried reading How to Win Friends and Influence People, but the advice he gained from this book made people stay away from him even more.

In a draft script for the second film, we learn that the baby Stella Baines was pregnant with in 1955 was a girl named Ellen, who was eleven years old in 1967.

George and Lorraine have been tennis club champions for the past 6 years by 1985.

In an early draft script for the first film, Lorraine was named Eileen Baines McFly.

In an early draft script, Eileen/Lorraine as an adult lives in the house she lived in as a teenager.

In a draft script for the second movie, Lorraine was seen as a flower child during the Vietnam War.

In a draft script for the second movie, Lorraine, in 2015, dedicates a hospital to a now-dead George.

In an early draft script for the first film, Doc had a pet monkey named Shemp.

Jennifer Parker was originally named Suzy Parker.

In the first draft for the second movie, Marty and Jennifer had a bleaker future. Marty became obsessed with get-rich-quick schemes and Jennifer worked as a security guard and developed a drinking problem. Jennifer ended up filing for divorce.

Seamus McFly's name was originally Angus George Douglas McFly and he also originally looked more like George.

Buford 'MadDog' Tannen was originally named Black Biff and instead of being arrested, Seamus hired him as a helping hand at the McFly farm.

Doc's mother Sarah Lathrop had a brother named Abraham and carried a doll named Emma.

Doc had attended the University of California, Berkeley and MIT.

In the 1940s, Doc worked on the Manhattan Project.

During the 1950s, Doc worked as a professor of physics at Hill Valley University.

A draft script (set in 1888 rather than 1885) said that Clara was a widow from Silver City, New Mexico.

In an early script for Back to the Future II, Biff Jr. owned Cafe '80s.

The H in Biff's middle name stands for Howard.

In an early draft script for the second film, Biff was a fantastic asset to the high school football team, which is given as the reason why he was kept to do his senior year twice.

3D's name was originally Gums.

Data's name was originally Hack.

In a deleted scene of the first film, George was locked in the phone booth by Dixon while checking for the time. In the novel, we learn that Lester the Wallet Guy lets him out.

Hot_For_Dockie - September 6, 2007 08:31 PM (GMT)
*checks copy of the novel* Ah, no on that last one. In the book, he's trapped in one of the men's room stalls by Dixon and his gang (who were smoking -- George made one of them drop his cigarette) and is rescued by Strickland, then named Gerald.

In regards to the 3-D one -- GUMS? :docs2: Glad they changed that!

needles1987 - September 6, 2007 08:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hot_For_Dockie @ Sep 6 2007, 03:31 PM)
*checks copy of the novel* Ah, no on that last one. In the book, he's trapped in one of the men's room stalls by Dixon and his gang (who were smoking -- George made one of them drop his cigarette) and is rescued by Strickland, then named Gerald.

In regards to the 3-D one -- GUMS? :docs2: Glad they changed that!

I never read the novel. I think it was bttf4444 who told me that Lester lets George out of the phone booth.

bttf44 - September 6, 2007 11:23 PM (GMT)
Oh, I must've got that confused with something else. I haven't really read the novels, but I've picked up various info about what was in the novels - like George's parents being Arthur and Sylvia, and Arthur was a lot like his son. I had Arthur a little younger, though - which would've made him too young to enlist in WWI. I think he was sent home before he could fire his first shot.

I haven't included the Universities that Doc went to, because I wanted to keep him in Hill Valley. I did include Ellen as the sixth child of Sam and Stella. I did end up using Howard for Biff's middle name.

I actually had Doc teaching third graders, as I think he'd relate more to young kids. A few had him working at Hill Valley High, and that's how Marty met him - but I don't think he'd last there too long, with Strickland as the principal.

I don't like Shemp the monkey as much. I prefer Einstein the dog.

I'm probably one of the very few fanfic writers to have Doc as a hippie scientist during the late-60s. I don't like the idea of a Tannen owning the Cafe '80s - and I don't like the Biff Jr name. I figured it should be owned by a Carruthers.

needles1987 - September 7, 2007 02:05 AM (GMT)
More Interesting Facts:

In the first draft of the first movie, Biff had a daughter, who was selling girl scout cookies.

In a deleted scene, Marty told George to just once say no, and when George answered the door, his neighbor said that his little girl is selling peanut brittle for her team and that it's $5 a box and told her that George is good for 12.

In an earlier draft for part two, Marlene was named Doris after Marty's great aunt and Marty Jr was named Norman after Jennifer's grandfather.

In an earlier draft for part two, Doris/Marlene was overweight and Norman/Marty Jr was retarded.

Marty was originally a video pirate in the first draft for part one.

In the paradox script, Marlene commits suicide instead of trying to bust Marty Jr out of jail.

In the novel, Strickland's name is Gerald, but in part II, the sign on Strickland's desk says SS Strickland.

It's possible that Doc may have siblings, because he described himself as an eccentric rich uncle in an early draft for part II.


bttf44 - September 7, 2007 02:15 AM (GMT)
Marty wasn't quite as likable in the very first draft. I must say that I prefer Marlene and Marty Jr over Doris and Norman.

needles1987 - September 7, 2007 05:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (bttf44 @ Sep 6 2007, 09:15 PM)
Marty wasn't quite as likable in the very first draft. I must say that I prefer Marlene and Marty Jr over Doris and Norman.

I think everyone would have preferred Marty Jr and Marlene over Norman and Doris. Norman and Doris are old people's names.

needles1987 - September 7, 2007 05:08 PM (GMT)
In the fourth draft script for part one, 3D, Match, and Skinhead we're impressed by the "board with a roller skate nailed under it." Match came up with an idea to build them and sell them and they could be called "Roller Boards."

It was originally Government agents and not Lybians who shot Doc.

In the first draft of the first film, Marty went under the guise of Marty Lewis, which was weird because Huey Lewis and the News were unheard of in 1982.

In the first draft for the first film, the time machine was a laser-like device that ran on Coca-Cola, and Marty went back to the future by going into a refrigerator when a nuclear bomb was being tested.

In the first draft of the first film, George becomes a professional boxer.

In the first draft of the first film, Marty's siblings were never shown and the only mention was that he had an older brother no longer living at home.

In the third draft of BTTF, Marty's dream car was a Camero.

In the third draft of BTTF, Einstein was a St. Bernard instead of a sheepdog.

In the thrid draft of BTTF, Lorraine tracks Marty down and asks him out. He turns her down but, after Doc admonishes him for it, calls her only to find out Lorraine agreed to go to the dance with Biff Tannen! So Marty does the only thing he can think of--the space alien act to Biff instead of George, trying to get him to break the date! Unfortunately, as Marty is running away from the Tannen residence, someone spots him and later tells Biff who the "alien" is.

Enchantment Under the Sea was originally Springtime in Paris.

In the fourth draft of BTTF, Doc was a ladies man and got the vision of the Flux Capacitor when a girl he made a pass at hit him on the head with a beer bottle.

In the fourth draft of BTTF, Doc lives in an RV.

In the fourth draft of BTTF, Marty's family plans to move out of their house at the end.

While dining with his mother's family in the novel, Marty sees a cigarette commercial on the TV and is shocked by it.

In the paradox script, George threw his back out playing slam ball.

In the paradox script when Doc goes to the Old West, he invents a gun called the Terminator.



bttf44 - September 8, 2007 01:29 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (needles1987 @ Sep 7 2007, 12:02 PM)
I think everyone would have preferred Marty Jr and Marlene over Norman and Doris. Norman and Doris are old people's names.

Maybe that was supposed to be the joke, though. That version of 2015 seemed to be even more futuristic than was portrayed in he movie - and I found it to be rather overkill. So, anyway, maybe the jokes is that Marty and Jennifer have kids with very old-fashioned names in a very futuristic future.

It's also funny how Coca-Cola powered the time machine back in the first draft of Part One - when the trilogy strictly had Pepsi products in it. Tab was the only reference to a Coke product mentioned - and Pepsi actually wanted that line to be taken out.

needles1987 - September 8, 2007 06:43 AM (GMT)
I wonder why Marty Jr uses the fake name Norman in your stories. :martyjr:

bttf44 - September 8, 2007 07:15 AM (GMT)
It's an illusion to the second script. Of course, his best friend is Andy Hopkins - which was entirely coincidential. I guess you want the in-universe reason, though. Maybe Jennifer would sometimes call him Norman, after her grandfather - and Marty Jr liked it, as that was her pet name for him.

needles1987 - September 15, 2007 07:19 PM (GMT)
Marty's middle name was originally Hopkins after the hotel he was conceived in.

needles1987 - September 18, 2007 01:51 AM (GMT)
Clara's parents names are Daniel and Martha.

Out of the members in Biff's gang, only one of their real names was revealed. In part II, you hear Biff call Skinhead "Joey"

needles1987 - February 19, 2008 08:14 AM (GMT)
Bttf4444, in your stories, Doc went to college for 8 years just so he could teach third graders?

bttf44 - February 19, 2008 08:57 AM (GMT)
Well, don't you have to be in college for eight years to get a doctorate?

needles1987 - February 19, 2008 05:58 PM (GMT)
Yes. But you only need four years to teach in a public school. He probably got his bachelors in teaching and his masters and doctorate in Physics.

bttf44 - February 20, 2008 12:35 AM (GMT)
Oh, I wasn't sure about the teaching - but that's pretty much what I figured about the doctorate in physics. :)




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