I have a question........


Ok,
In the spawning tank I have a Gold Crowntail female and
a Turquoise halfmoon plakat male.
Does anyone have any info on "gold" genetics?
She is a very light "gold", no red wash.
The turquoise male has marble genes in his genetic background.
I will be breeding back for the crowntail trait but I am curious about the colors?
Obviously the iridescence is dominant but will the gold show up
or lighten the blue/turquoise?
I think the female has opaque in her genetic background?
Wonder what I will get? hhhmmmmm

Well, gold as near as I have been able to figger comes in two types. I mean the clean golds. You have your gold dragons, AKA Galaxies, which are like what Jill has, and then you have your regular golds.
Regular golds, from what I see are yellows with platinum over them. I fthat is the case, them Gold is a form of NR, which means the gold female carries red.
Breeding red to turquoise is going to give you multies. So breeding the gold to the turq is likely to give you multies as well.
If the Turq carries NR, you might end up with MG type fish.
This is with and without marble.
And you can, depending on what genes they are carrying, end up with everything from a PK to a VT, to decent half suns, when it comes to the finnage.

Bella? Whats a half-sun?
( eewww <_< I sound like a total newb!)

The female is the yellow/platinum with the NR type. So I will probably have to cull alot if I start this line right? What I would like to do is make the gold/ turquoise blend. Is that possible? I am hoping I can breed the marble gene back in the line and start some blending but with genetics nothing is ever a "100% sure thing". Hm? Now if she carries the NR I should eventually be able to eliminate the red wash all together a couple generations down the line.

I am not sure what you mean, or what you are trying to get.
Lots of yellow marbles are yellow with blue, so it is not bey9ond the realm of possibility to get golds with turquoise marble, if that is what you mean.
Don't be so quick to cull. right now, the color is going to be a mess, but they all carry the genes you are wanting.
Just cull for obvious form/fiunnage issues, and health.. And I am softy, for me, cull doesn't mean kill, just remove from the breeding pool.
There are places to offer unwanted bettas to new homes.
That being said, unless the turq carries NR, the whole spawn is going to red washed badly. If that is the case, you aren't going to see the NR comeing out until the next breeding..

A halfsun is a HM/CT cross where they have HM fins, but on all three unpaired fins, they have spikes. Nervils fish in Hybrids is a half sun.

you will get copper and green/teal in f1. choose the lightest body pair from that spawn and you will have chance to get gold in f2.

basically gold is cambo, so crossing with dark body will always recessive in f1. unless your turquoise carry marble or pastel genetically.

I have to say, I don't think it is as simple as that.
For example.. if the gold is a pretty pure gold, and the turq is a pretty pure turq, the likelihood of that happening lessens.
The reason is this..
If the turq does not carry metallic, the two of them together cannot make copper.. As far as I have seen, in order to get copper, you need two copies of the metallic gene.
Now, I believe that gold as well as platinum are also "two gene metallics"
This is why.. platinum is generally accepted as being copper over top opaque.. As for gold, and I am talking regular gold, not dragon gold.. As I have seen it, it is yellow under a layer of copper.. OR it is red wash under platinum, BUT the red wash has been turned yellow by the NR gene.
In anycase, any gold is going to carry red. They HAVE to.. Gold is produced by the presence of yellow with metallic in some fashion or another.. and YELLOW is actually RED genetically.
If you breed red and turquoise together, you get multis.
So, should the gold not have any turq hiding.. well.. I don't know how many copies of the turq gene it takes to MAKE turq, or how turq works with only one copy of that gene present.. just how it works in the presence if the other irrids genes, lol. So I am not sure about the likelihood of teal... But for sure a teal like multi is likely.
Also, if the turq doesn't carry the NR gene, then red is going to be present, without the morphing effect of the NR gene to turn that red into yellow. And if the turq doesn't have metallic in it, the likelihood of copper is not likely.
This is just my opinion, of course, and yours is just as valid as mine. I don't think any of us are going to know until she HURRYS UP AND BREEDS THEM.. (hint hint)

LMAO........... :OO :OO :OO Its not up to me! Its up to them!lol