what do you think the outcome of a cellophane female and a pink male with red and white bf

Honestly it depends on the genetics of the parents of the pair. Otherwise you could get almost anything. Do you have access to that information? What tail types are they?

And welcome to the forum!

they are both super deltas, satin flames from bettatalk

Yes but what is the genetic makeup of a satin flame? Is there marble, metallic, red loss, non red? Are they siblings? Were they bred by Faith or just imported? These are all serious questions that will tell you the outcome. Otherwise it will be hit and miss. You can get two fish with very similar phenotypes , that have totally different genotypes and get a myriad of colors and nothing of what you were trying for in the first place. If they were bred by her, then ask her the genetic makeup of the parents. If they were merely fish she shipped in, then there is no way of telling until you breed them.

Superb answer ECB :T

Yes sir, excellent answer.

they were bred by faith, and no they are not siblings. The cellophane carries red and black calico genes. here is a pic of the satin flame male.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa59/sm...9/bettas002.jpg

there is not much info about their genetics on bettatalk. here is the description faith posted on her site.

Another lovely surprise that came from my experimental crosses with Holy Grails, has been the Satin Flame line. These are truly special bettas, especially the ones with a white body and red/white BF fins. The most outstanding specimen, pictured left, was breath taking.
This line comes in two variations, one with white body and one with pink body. The most beautiful ones (and most sought after) will display a red/white BF pattern. All satin flames do carry the BF gene, even those who have solid fins.

Thanks for bearing with me and getting me a much better description. When breeding this pair I will say that you will probably end up with an assortment of red/black marbles, cellophane, and lavender BF, with other colors ranging in between. There will probably be some surprises as well. Were you breeding for any particular color or just wanted to do this pair?

Just a note on the geno/Phenotype thing. The IBC has sent out a memo which asks its members as a guideline to education and professionalism to use genotypical names such as marble, piebald, butterfly, etc. because of the many possible phenotypical derived names... such as hawiian sunset, satin flame, raging purple zonker. They sound catchy but they have no real merit and only seem to work to confuse others while selling moderate fish and elevated prices.

The best I can tell you is that you will get multi marbles.
The chance of you getting a twilight type is better than you getting a satin flame type, IMO, though I think you will get dark body bi colors, with and without butterfly, and also apache type, eg red body, red/white BF.
You have to remember that breeding is more of a crap shoot when you do not know the genetics of a fish, and the genetics of these lines, despite what is said on the site is known to be hazy.

I would hesitate to get anything more from someone who fudges the truth the way the person you bought those fish does.