It doesn't look like disease. It's just a lump under the skin on her right side. She is eating fine and doesn't seem to be bothered. I know that Wally World rescues are notorious for lovely things like tumors. I figure that's what I'm fighting... Really sucks. Just thought I'd get some support from people who care. If it starts to hurt her... clove tincture and vodka I guess. Followed by a deep freeze.
:(
This is what I get for going on vacation.

Oh and my dog gotta eye infection and my clownfish tank is getting hair algae.
WTF!!!

If she is eating fine, and acting fine, right now, let her enoy life.
I had one of my fish get a lump right under her jaw, and I had to switch to feeding a smaller pellet, because bio gold was too big for her to handle.
And the lump got bigger and bigger, and it never stopped her from enjoyinglife.
She finally died of old age and broken heart.. This was Sea Hag, I wrote about her somewhere.
If swimming becomes difficult, or shelooses her appetite, orcolor, then it is time to let her go, but as long as she is fine, I say let her live.
:hug:
You know we support you no matter what you decide to do.

well, I'm thinking of moving her to the 2 gal. and moving Scarlet to the divided section of the 10 gal.
I don't want her to have any additional stress and I'm thinking that plato flaring at her all day everyday probably isn't the most relaxing environment.

Thing that upsets me is that this is the half-giant female I was gonna breed this summer.
Suks a big one!!

Man, I'm sorry for your bad news. Don't I know about the stresses of problems after a vacation. But then, we must relax sometimes too.
I agree with Belle's assessment. I did have one develop something like this that I medicated and it went away. Let me wrack my brain about what I did. Too early in the morning for my memory to be working at full function.

Part of moving to the 2 gal. is a round of Betta Revive to see if that helps.
I'm soooooo upset.
Between that, the dog, and my saltwater tank,I think I'm gonna have a breakdown...
Seriously!!!

Oh, I'm so sorry. I do know how you feel though. Totally.
:hug:

:hug: :hug: :hug:

I have this happened to me too last time. I am not sure is it because of the recycler tank. I feels like changing fresh water is better than the recycler tank. Anybody has any experience of this? :huh:

I dunno, Yeevs. My water is perfect... a little nitrates, but nothing worrisome. Nitrates are under 20ppm.
Perfect =
Ammonia= 0 aka undectable
Nitrites= 0 aka undectable
Nitrates = <20ppm
pH= 6.4 (can't get it any higher without buffer- I have RO/DI from the tap)
Temp= 80
Trace levels of aquarium salt are nearly always there bc someone has gotten a scrape or started a small squabble with a sister.

I may start doing some filter cleaning this weekend, I gravel vaccuumed last.
I have found in cycled betta tanks to have less problems. I have never *knock on wood* had to fight SBD or bloat or dropsy. I thought disease at first... mainly dropsy... but it is one sided which all the research I have read lends to tumors.
Tumors are more common in you overbred and mistreated Wally World and Major petstore chains.
Crappy conditions from fryhood can help this along.
However, tumors can also lend susceptibility to all kinds of naturally existing disease. So, she is going into the 2 gal. by her lonesome this weekend with some Betta Revive just in case. She's such a sweetheart of a fish. I hand feed her and when I call her name she comes to the side of the tank. She knows her name. Besides... Jewel, who is in my sorrority is getting a little nippy and really wants to be alone. And Scarlet (in the 2 gal.) misses her sisters.

Good god... who knew it was possible to write a novel about fish?

:lolo: Me! I can write a novel on just about anything! :lolo:

Wild - did you remember what you used for your fishy??

I knew you were going to ask me. My mind.. it's... leaky.
:lolo:
As I remember it I decided with her that it was an infection from external parasites. I used two rounds of Tetracycline and then went to Meth Blue and Formalin for one round. I also use Colloidal Silver for healing as well as a preventative and have noticed a marked drop in any diseases since beginning this as a preventative.

wild,
she's been treated with your method and my method... it's not going away.
She doesn't seem to care though.
Still eating fine.
Oh well... I think she likes having the 2 gal. to herself upstairs in the office.
Funny girl.

if shes living a normal life...dont mess with her. I have a black dragon who has a white grown on her face and i have tried removing it and it doesnt budge. I have decided that I am just going to let her live with it, shes fine, shes healthy, and she is still my pet of the shelf so lets just say she is special and gets special treatment :D

dito I still haven't heard any medication can fix those bump yet. Must be betta pimple. :lolo:

Needs some Betta Pro-Active, I guess.

I think I know what what the culprit here is. A viral disease called lymphocystis. Because it's viral there isn't anything to cure it. It occurs in nature and in captivity to both fresh water and saltwater fishes. Yes, it's contagious to other fishes if it bursts open. It's like a fish version of a wart. I've seen lymphocystis on larger species of fish and the lump sometimes getting bigger than a golf ball! The one thing that blew me away was that the growth is often times just one cell! Lymphocystis won't kill fish, usually occurs on or just under the skin, but can occur internally. If the fish is young it's possible it will eventually go away on it's own, like a wart would, sometimes taking up to a year to go away. It's possible to reappear later somewhere else on a fish, again, just like a wart does in people. Any way, nothing to worry about!

Well, she was isolated b4 it burst... still hasnt' BTW... and she will stay alone for the remainder of her days.
My BF works from home now and she is on his desk... I caught him talking to her yesterday.
Her name's Beauty... but he refers to her as Bumpy...
He's giving her partial WC's daily now... even though she's in a cycled tank.
Spoiled fishy.

Ahhh that is cute that he talks to her. I hope she does o.k. Suchin is in her own 2.5 gallon filtered tank as well. She is on the nightstand by my bed. She loves the attention.

Well, mine still has the growth... but she's doing good.
Looks ragged as all, but still comes when called and still eating.
Sucks that Suchin isn't doing good though.

Beauty's has not burst but is nearly the length of her entire side now... but just that one side. If it bursts, I don't know that she'll make it...
but at least she led a good life.

I'm sorry. That might not be Lymphocystis after all. I've never heard of it spreading. Generally it's just in one spot, like a wart would be. It can get bigger, but I've never heard of longer. Can you get a close up picture of her?

it's the same spot...just gotten big enough to cover most of her side...
if it wasn't only on one side, i'd say dropsy... that's what it looks like.
that and she's had it for a few months and is still around and active and eating.

I'm not sure what she has going on. Right now I'm immersed in my text books for Beauty and Suchin. Suchin's sounding like she's in critical condition right now. If you don't mind I'm going to see what I can find about Suchin and then come back and look for what Beauty has.

Okay. I just finished with Suchin. I'm going to grab a bite to eat then see what I can find for Beauty.

Yup she is not eating . She used be such a pig. She is still hanging at the top behind the filter . If you go touch her she swims around a little but only if you stimulate her. I did pick her up in my hand to see if she would fight me and she did. i am just wondering if it might be time to euthenize her so she does not suffer anymore. I would hate to do that but hate seeing her like this

Nutty- you rock!!!
thanks bunches for taking your time to look...
:flower

Not sure if this will copy/paste, but I'll give it a shot. It's from Nation Fish Pharmacy in the skin disorders.

Q). A swelling forms in the muscle under the skin during the course of several weeks and may protrude way out from the surface of the body. The scales can be lifted also Fish Behavioral Disorders Flow Chart A sporozoan cyst or lesion forms in the musculature Fish Behavioral Disorders Flow Chart No suitable treatment known. Verify by dissecting the fish.
If not, look down the chart further
R). Blisters form along the lateral line. Often associated with bloat, spread scales and popeyes Fish Behavioral Disorders Flow Chart Your fish are affected by Abdominal Dropsy. Fish Behavioral Disorders Flow Chart Treat with Koi Fix®, or a combination of Oxolinic Acid and Oxytetracycline in the feed at 1 tsp. per pound each. Use Forma Green in the water if the fish has ulcerations.

I'll see what else I can find.

Okay, I got a question for you. Is one side of Beauty's head or side a darker color then the other?

Well, seeing I'm here....
The area that is sticking out...does it look like something could be pushing it out from the inside or does it look like the skin is inflamed? Is it red? Is there a whitish appearance? How about slime? Does it seem to follow the lateral line? Any other color changes anywhere on Beauty? You mentioned she's looking ragged. Are you referring to her fins? Is she still eating? Any odd behavior? Rubbing her bump on things? Slowing down or hanging out at the surface? I think that's enough questions to hold me over for awhile.

Okay, I got a question for you. Is one side of Beauty's head or side a darker color then the other?
She's dark purple, almost black... so it's hard to tell.

The area that is sticking out...does it look like something could be pushing it out from the inside or does it look like the skin is inflamed?
More like something is pushing it from the inside.... like the muscle is poofed up.

Is it red?
Can't Tell.

Is there a whitish appearance?
Nope

How about slime?
No Issues.

Does it seem to follow the lateral line?
??? It's only on her right side... like a BIG bump... but about the size of her side.

Any other color changes anywhere on Beauty?
Wouldn't be able to tell.

You mentioned she's looking ragged. Are you referring to her fins?
Yeah, but her fins never completely recovered from jumping over the divider to be with her boyfriend.

Is she still eating?
Anything and everything you feed her.

Any odd behavior? Rubbing her bump on things? Slowing down or hanging out at the surface?
Nope, nope, and nope!!! Only hanging at the surface when begging for food.

Hmmmm. Okay......

This might seem like a strange question. Whoever has been doing her water changes, have you had any weird rashes or soars on your hands?

I'm gonna have to look more later. I haven't been able to get anything that I thought was a real solid suggestion. Seeing it's along the whole side I was thinking swim bladder. Then I was thinking a parasite. There was a couple things, but I want to get more info first. The reason for the odd question was because there is one thing called fish tuberculosis (not human tuberculosis) that is contagious to humans.
My son is complaining that I've been hogging the computer. Gotta go.

Uurrrrggg! It's driving me nutty! (Oh,ya. I'm already nutty.:rolleyes: ) There's something stuck in the back of my mind about being swollen along one side, but I can't for the life of me pull it from my memory. It's getting very frustrating! I still have that feeling it's related to the swim bladder. It's the only internal organ that runs that far along the inside of the body. From doing autopsies in college I know some fish's internal organs, just like people's, are sometimes more to one side or the other. I've never opened up a betta so I can't get a spacial layout in my head. If it is the swim bladder, eventually Beauty is going to have difficulties swimming and maintaining her position in the water. The raised scales have me concerned because they are throwing off her ability to osmoragulate. If you add salt try to keep the concentration consistent. If you don't use salt, it might not be a bad idea. One of these days I should just get around to pinning what salt does.

I've spent some time looking around this morning, but I really need to take care of other stuff in my world. In all honesty I probably won't have time to look again until next week. Maybe when I'm not thinking so hard about it it will pop into my head. That sometimes happens. Sorry.

Nutty...
as far as sores...
I wear rubber gloves when I do my tanks and rinse them in HOT water between tanks.
I get my WC gravel vac started with a turkey baster.
I don't touch my fish water.
Reason...
my SW tank has some corals that are thought to possible kill people if overexposed.
Even small exposure causes rashes and possible blindness.
So, paranoid.
In my FW, I quit going gloveless bc ALL of my fish think it's funny to bite me when my hands are in there.
And it hurts.

I already have salt in the tank.
At 1 tsp./ 5 gal.

I know what you mean about the human snack thing. My angels keep thinking that a mole that I have on my fore arm is a bug.

I'll let you know if I find anything or remember whatever it is that I so neatly tucked away in my memory and forgot where I put it.

Bump!!!

Beauty went to the big pond in the sky yesterday afternoon. Yesterday AM she wouldn't get out from her "cave" plastic cup.
Later, she was dead. Her big hump finally got her.
My boyfriend is very upset and wants a new fish ASAP. I began a thorough bleaching of the tank and filter and everything in/ on/ or near it yesterday. It will probably be done on Friday.

::RIP:: I am so sorry!!! I wished I could have figured out what was wrong with her. I just didn't know.

well, you weren't the only one I had working on it... and no one could figure it out.
Oh well... these things happen.