I just got this guy last week or so, and everything as been great.
He had some breeding damage from a crazy marble female, but it is growing back, no problem.
He eats like a pig, flares like he is the biggest man on campus, and everything was fine with him, until I was finishing up my aterchanges.
New fish are always the last ones up, because of how I have my fish set up, and he isn't out of quarantine yet.
Anyway, I se this big red spot on him that was NOT there before. It doesn't look like he is marbling, but that is a possibility.
I just don't know what to think of this.
Excuse the picture quality, he wouldn't hold still.. like I said, he acts just fine.





This pic was taken the day or the day after I got him.. He was still jet lagged, and actually held still.

LOOKs like some type of bruising to me bella you beating your males into spawning again??? B)

:LOL:
I didn't do that. I haven't even tried spawning him, because he hasn't finished quarantine. Domestic fish get at least 2 weeks, imports 4.. just cause I don't want my fish getting sick.
I don't know what it is, and it popped up overnight it sems.

looks like septicemia to me too. You will need to medicate him

I agree with BQ, exactly what I'd say. Even his first photo looks like he has fin rot. Good thing you've quarantined him.

Well, he had breeding damage when I got him, but there were never any red edges to his fins. His fins are even growing back.
I was thinking septicema, as you can see by the post, but I've never had it, so I had no idea what it looks like.
All the fish go into quarentine.. Just in case.

yup better off safe than sorry. i would treat them all if they have been exposed to him

All who?
All of my fish?
I don't think so, unnecessary antibiotics are more dangerous in the long run, promoting antibiotic resistant bacteria.. You know this.
If any of the others get ill, I will deal with that in stride.
I have started treating him. If he gets better, that is good, but if not, so be it.
I also don't believe in more than the most basic of supportive care, with the exception of dropsy, because I am trying to se if I can actually cure it.
But what that means is that if a fish can't get well, with the minimum of care, that tells me there is something happening at a genetic level, perhaps immumodeficency due to filal degeneration.
And that fish is a danger, not only to any breeding line, but also to other fish iin the fishroom. Because it is so susceptable to disease, because of a weakened immune system, that fish will be the first to come down with something, and give whatever it is a foothold into your room.
Sorry to get preachy, but this is how I feel.
I think that breeders have a duty, not only to produce beautiful fish, (not necessarily to the standard, but beauty is the eye of the beholder), but healthy fish as well. Not just outwardly healthy, but internally as well.

Just looked HERE. And it doesn'tlook like it is septicema, but it does look as though it is a bacterial infection.

That doesn't look like the septicema my GF has had, and it looks the same on them as it does on bettas I am pretty sure it isn't septicema, and I don't think treating all the fish just in case is a good idea

Hhhhmmm.. you could be right. I'm like you though, I've never had it in my fish so unsure as to how it truly looks up close.

lol sherry i had to battle it for 2 rounds of maracyn 2 and medicated food it was nasty septicemia and gf and betta get it the same way 3 infections i never want to deal with is hole in the head,septicemia,dropsy the first 2 i have dealt with the last i never dealt with thank god hole in the head is much more harder to deal with
septicemia looks like both are the same in gf/betta this is my gf who had it

When you said you were going to quarantine everyone I thought you might have them in the same tank. I understand what you are saying about not want to go overboard with treatment since you are breeding. I look at it from a pet stand point and would do everything I could with in my means to save the fish.ps Jill those look like ulcers on your fish. I had pearlscale when I kept them that had septicemia. Does if look like red varicos veins?

um they were not ulcers bq koko diagnosed him she said this
That looks like septicemia.....

It looks like the red lines on the fins are coming from the base of the fish, the white dots are a combo to this problem.....

So that being said this is in side the fish and not out side of this fish.

This fish needs:

Aquarium salt
MetroMed (goldfishconnection)
Maracyn 2

Temp up to 79F

All carbon take out of the tank, feed nothing but Metromed only nothing else for at least 21 days, then Jumpstart (goldfishconnection) feed for 5 days..... Maracyn should be done 2 times.....

i would do a 50% water change before you start this......This to me and my opinion should be started soon, fish with septa can die quickly, I had one that started like this and died on me in 3 days......

One thing I want to know is what is in your tank:

ornaments?
what kind of filter?
how much rocks?
Wood in the tank?

No, I never quarentine every one together, they get their own tanks. Just in case, of something like this.
I was just telling someone that divided tanks aren't an option for me. That once the fish is jarred, the only time it gets to hang out with another fish is when it is breeding.. or supposed to be breeding, lol.
I have given him maroxy, and melafix, as per instruction on that link, and fed him tetracycline.
We'll just see how it goes.

Ooooo Jill, that looked so awful. Poor guy! But he got better huh? That's good!

yeah he got better sherry that was back in december of 06 he had septicemia thats how i know I am a member of a gf forum as well and the admin there diagnosed my lionhead that is how i know of septicemia but 2 rounds of maracyn 2 and medicated food heat and aquarium salt did it all not to mention @ that time he had a 30 ga tank all to himself i'd of been mad if i lost him and very upset

Yeah I imagine so.

Well, the good news is that my boy is still acting good, and has a great appetitie.
I have been feeding him several times a day, on the chance that he stops eating on me.
The bad news is that he is no better.
Maybe the red spot isn't as angry looking, but it hasn't faded.
I have switched to a new med today, and we'll see how that does.