I am getting a list together of genetic traits in bettas, seeing if I can put together my own database for fish & spawn records. I have a few, but I know there are a lot more out there, so please add the ones you see I'm missing. And make any corrections you see that need to be made as well, if I got something wrong, like if there is something that needs to be broken down into separate pieces, like NR for example.

Would you thing putting in PK and Giant would be good? Maybe make a separate database for those....is it common these days to mix plakat with long fin? BTW are plakat still Betta Splendens or are they Imbellis or something?

I will be having it so I can mark if it is in the fish's Genotype and Phenotype.

I'm taking some of this from sheets I already had, and adding some that are new since I used the sheets.

So far I have, including some additions:

ST
DT
CT
Short Tail
HM
Combtail

Spread Iridocytes (is that one you would put in for genetics?)
Non-Blue?
Black factor
Cambodian factor
Melano factor
Blonde factor
Non red (I read there is a NR1 and a NR2 now)
Extended red
Red Loss
Reduced Red
Varigated fins (guess that would mean BF?) what else would it mean?
Marble factor
Extended finnage (would this be the same as the HM and CT etc?)

Metallic
Mask

PM is fine if you don't want to post it.
Any suggestions for information that you think would be useful to have in a database are welcome too. I've never created one, so I'm not expecting it to be anything super, but maybe with all of your input it could be...

Lisa

Short Finned= Plakat

... Degrees of spread? Example: My avatar has about a 190-200 degree spread when fully flaired, most females commonly have a 160-180 degree spead, every fish has a point where they can spread to, and not beyond, and that would be good information to have for breeding.

Plakats are splendins, but short finned. People do cross plakats with long finned because they think it strengthens the rays. The first generation will all be long finned because it is recessive. But it is it's own fin type, just like crown tail, which both happen to be recessive.

Giantism is a genetic anomaly, maybe have a section on specifics that you type in per fish info that doesn't fit anywhere else, like if they show red in their ventrels, red wash in an irredecent fish, irredecence in a red fish, specific faults or highlights, etc etc etc. You probably (unless you are SPECIFICALLY are breeding for it) aren't going to be having giantism to deal with genetically.

Also have a spot for butterfly (two or three banded), bi-color, marble, grizzel, all the "oddball" color variations ^.^

With the NR1 and NR2, NR1 is yellow and NR2 is thought to be orange (The jury is still out on the specific genetics, they are still figuring that out, and it is what they are calling it for now).

And Cambodian is the genetic trait that supresses black. "Traditional" cambodians are white bodies red finned fish, but there are now cambodian based reds, which are red fish that are light bodied instead of the traditional red fish, which were dark bodied.

For more specifics, look to the IBC judging standards (you're part of the IBC, all you have to do for access to them is joing the betterbetta list, and they are in the files), or go bug RC. He has much more extensive knowege of genetics than I do, and can answer your questions better than I. If you want, PM me and I'll even give you his phone number so you can call him for more thorough explanations.

Hope I have helped! If you need more, you know the drill!

~jdwoodschild

Excellent! Thanks very much. A lot of that is new stuff to me, and some brought back my memory.

I am waiting for my membership to go through so I can join the IBC list. And I have to dig up my TA articles from the last time I was in the IBC.

I will probably be picking you guys brains again soon!

Lisa