Minnesota
125 Zach Sanders
133 Jayson Ness
141 Mike Thorn
149 Mario Mason
157 Jake Dietchler
165 Dustin Schlatter
174 Scott Glasser/ Cody Yohn
184 Sonny Yohn
197 Ryland Geiger
285 Ben Berhow/ Atticus Disney

Iowa
125 Nate Moore/ Tony Ramos
133 Daniel Dennis
141 Joe Slaton
149 Matt McDonough/ Mark Ballweg
157 Brent Metcalf
165 Ryan Morningstar
174 Jay Borschel
184 Phillip Keddy
197 Chad Beatty
285 Dan Erekson

2010-2011
Minnesota
125 Zach Sanders
133 Bart Reiter/ David Thorn
141 Matt Mincey
149 Mike Thorn
157 Mario Mason
165 Jake Dietchler
174 Scott Glasser/ Cody Yohn
184 Sonny Yohn
197 Ryland Geiger
285 Ben Berhow/ Atticus Disney

Iowa
125 Nate Moore
133 Tony Ramos
141 Mark Ballweg/ Dylan Carew
149 Matt McDonough
157 Derek St. John
165 Colby Covington/ Jake Kerr
174 Ethen Lofthouse
184 Grant Gambrall
197 Luke Lofthouse
285 Jordan Johnson

i see a good battle 2009-2010....but i dont see Iowa touching Minnesota in 2010-2011

09/10
125 Sanders maj Moore 4-0
133 Dennis dec Ness 4-3 (toss-up)
141 Slaton dec Thorn 4-6
149 Mason dec McDonough 7-6
157 Matcalf maj Deitchler 7-10
165 Schlatter dec Morningstar 10-10
174 Borshal dec Glasser 10-13
184 Keddy maj Yohn 10-17
197 Geiger dec Beatty 13-17
285 Erekson dec Berhow 13-20
10/11
125 Sanders maj Moore 4-0
133 Thorn dec Ramos 7-0
141 Thorn dec Ballwag 10-0
149 McDonough dec Mincey 10-3
157 Mason dec St. John 13-3
165 Deitchler dec Kerr 16-3
174 Lofthouse dec Yohn 16-6
184 Gambral dec Yohn 16-9
197 Geiger dec Lofthouse 19-9
285 Berhow maj Johnson 23-9

Why don't you put Benefeil in the gopher lineup? You are already making a random assuption that Metcalf will go 157. He is not a big 149 pounder,what makes you think he's going 157?

I hope Benefeil comes to the gophers, but until I see it in print I can't assume that he'll be there. As for Metcalf, I agree he has no reason to go 157, I just put him there because the line-up I quoted put him there, and I figured he might know something I don't.

I'm not sure that Metcalf major's Dietchler. His strongest asset is his ability to out last everyone with that motor of his which is also one of Dietchler's strength's. I think it will be a close match to the finish.

HUH?!?!? :blink:

Tough call, Ramos beat Thorn at the Clash. I believe Thorn was wrestling up but it was still a major...

I look forward to it if its going to happen.

I can't wait to see how Dietchler competes at the NCAA D1 level!! :D

What are the chances he starts next year?

Ramos would probably have to be favored at this point. But at the Clash it was only a decision.

Metcalf is called a "slow starter". From what I have seen he is a very good technical wrestler but not a great technical wrestler therefore he starts to excel as he wears people down. Most people get mauled by Metcalf in the 3rd period however if you remember i don't think Jake won a single opening period in the Olympic trials or at the Olympics for that matter. Jake is also stronger as the match goes on so I'm not sure that Metcalf will be able to wear Jake out and then crank it up in the 3rd like he is known to do.

If my observations about Metcalf are correct.... that he needs to wear out his opponent so he can overpower them, and if Jake is as much of a 3rd period warrior in college as he has been in high school and the Olympics, then I believe that it will be a closer match than people are saying and will be a tighter match all the way to the 7:00 mark.

I'm not saying that Jake is better than Metcalf but i do think his style is perfect to wrestle Metcalf. I look forward to the match.

You are way off on McDonough. He will either wrestle 125 or 133 next year. 125 will be between him and Moore.

your right i thought McDonough was way bigger til i saw that he was wrestling 132 this weekend...also at 125 you'll have Tony Ramos fighting for tha spot.

Whose bigger out of Dan Dennis and Joe Slaton??

Slaton

I would be very surprised to see Mike Thorn move up to 149. He isn't an overly large 141lber and I don't think it would be fair for him to take one for the team his senior year.

Also, between Moore and Ramos, I would have to believe Tony goes 125 with Nate Moore moving up to 133. Did he ever make 125 this past year? I heard that he was struggling with weight.

And, Covington left the Hawks.

I actually think that Dietchler could defintley keep it close with Metcalf. Metcalf likes to get on your head and wear you out. Im with LMD I think Dietchler has great conditioning and will fight with Metcalf to the end!

Jake is an olympian i think he could keep it close against metcalf!!!

Yeah he definitely won't lose because of a lack of mental toughness. Ability I actually think Jack has better technique. So it will come down to the motor. If Jake can keep it close and make it a match for 2 periods it will come down to the motor. Jake will not lose in that situation. We are talking about a Senior and a Freshman so keeping it close with the amount of experience that cheapcalf has on him will be key.

So if it close going into the 3rd, your taking JD over BM. Wow, your taking JD over one the best conditioned athletes ever. If it close going into the 3rd, my money is on BM. But, you won't to worry about it being close.

Bhooked ~ Metcalf will still be shell shocked from the pounding he took in the National finals. I think JD will own him....I hope you know more about cards than you do wrestling!!!!!

With Rossy and I you know everyon is playing for second...see ya at Ringo's!

Croz

I like the way you think but I have to disagree a little. Jake is good but I don't think he will run away from BM in the 3rd like your suggesting or at least I don't think he will.

BM is only the best conditioned in Iowa, you haven't got to see Jake wear him out yet.

TCROZ, I know as well as everybody else, that you two dogs have a little cheat code down. And when I crack that code, I am going to expose you like the cheating dog you are! Go Hawkeyes!!!!!!!

Mike thorn not his little brother, I think Ramos would have a little more trouble with him. Plus hes not going to crack the linup with Dennis and Tsirts. Metcalf will be at 149,I agree that hes not that big. Also it wouldnt suprise me if he didnt win nationals again. Lance Palmer from Ohio state is pretty tough even though he lost tohim in the semi's. Also i believe DIsney wont make the MN lineup either. I think the Dual will be alot closer than last years dual. PLus this years dual should have been closer, MN was ripped off on some calls here and there,

125 Zach Sanders
133 Jason Ness
141 Mike Thorn
149 Dustin Schlatter/Jake Dietchler
157 Jake Dietchler/Dustin Schlatter
165 Scott Glasser
174 Kaleb Young
184 Sonny Yohn
197 Ryland Geiger
285 Ben Berhow

I beleive this will be the line-up for next year, well atleast i hope its something like that.

Mason is going 149, Deitchler is going 157, and DS is going 165.

If you read the whole thread...he has both Thorns in the line up with David wrestling Ramos. Not to mention in 2010/2011, I think Tshirts and Dennis are graduated.

Dennis will be back and so will Slaton to take Tshirts spot

Who cares, in 10-11 neither one of these teams will win the big ten or ncaa. Im saying OHIO State or Wisconsin to win it all. The think the gophers are on their way down as of lately, the recruits are alright but there recruiting is not the best anymore. Just because deitchler wrestled in the olympics means nothing. He will not come close to metcalf, be realistic. If they were wrestling greco i would give it to jake but their not.

Dont be so sure of yourself as to what weight these guys are going... I have heard that Jake doesnt even know what weight he is going yet...

In an article that was on rev Deitchler said he isn't wasn't sure what weight he will be at. He said he had to talk J Rob about that. He also wasn't sure if he was redshirting or not.

Yeah, i talked to jake today and he told me that.

Are you certain about that? I think Slaton and Dennis are JRs. Next year would be their senior year...meaning graduated for the 2010/2011 season. Tshirts is a senior this year.

Pretty much IA's whole team are JR's this year. Next year will be their last hurrah for a long time.

Thorn lost by 8-4 and the match was closer than the score...... :P

I would love to see Jake D wrestle 149. I mean this kid wrestled in the olympics hes not scared of Metcalf. I think alot of people are intimidated by Metcalf before they stop out onto the mat. (i dont blame them) I just would love to see Jake stop Metcalf.

Good luck to JD I think he will need to worry about a few more people than BM, he may be in for a rude awakening!

Not to mention he won't be at the same weight as Metcalf. But I think that JD would have a better chance at beating Metcalf than Burroughs.

what about Nelson @ 197 he could make the line up.

Question is can he make weight @ 197.