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Title: Revolutionary war ranks
Description: For the British army

O'Brian - August 17, 2008 12:44 AM (GMT)
Heres a list of ranks that were used by the british army in the revolutionary war.

General (Gen.)
Major General (MajGen.)
Colonel (Col.)
Major (Maj.)
Captain (Capt.)
Lieutenant (Lt.)
2nd Lieutenant (2Lt.)
Serjeant-Major (SjtMaj.
Company Serjeant Major (CSjtMaj.)
Quartermaster Serjeant (QSjt.)
Colour Serjeant (CSjt.)
Lance-Serjeant (LSjt.)
Second Corporal (SCpl.)
Lance Corporal (LCpl.)
Private (Pte.)

Macs899 - August 17, 2008 05:41 AM (GMT)
Is it bad that i read the title to this post as "Revolutionary raw wanks"?

Hung Van - August 17, 2008 07:16 AM (GMT)
we already know the historical correction of the British rank system.

We got. Arquebusier and Serinissema.. so no Problem at all..

analord - August 17, 2008 09:00 AM (GMT)
hmm, i think our rank system works fine <_<

MacKenzie - August 17, 2008 11:14 AM (GMT)
yes we do have a good rank system...

O'Brian - August 17, 2008 05:57 PM (GMT)
Well I thought jst in-case it would be good to have

jackx - August 17, 2008 07:45 PM (GMT)
Yes, thanks for that valuable insight, I'm sure none of us could've googled a similarly non-exhaustive, non-specific and and thus ultimately inaccurate list.

O'Brian - August 17, 2008 08:11 PM (GMT)
Well I doubt you could come up with a list of actual ranks, and if you doubt mine that is the fault of your own ignorance. Try research before you make an accusations

jackx - August 17, 2008 08:46 PM (GMT)
I'm not making any accusations, I was merely sarcastically observing you make a statement of rather limited usefulness.

Your list isn't "wrong", but since it's non-specific, and incomplete, I'm wondering how it is supposed to be of use.

I'm not sure if Lance-Sgt. and Quartermaster-Sgt. were officially in use from 1775-1783, and since particularly the former is really more of an appointment than a rank, one could also argue that it shouldn't be on the list.

However, I'm not really looking to argue the minutiae of rank in the British army during the AWI - I was merely asking what you were trying to achieve with posting that list.
Just out of curiosity, I'd like to know the source that list is from, though...

O'Brian - August 18, 2008 05:59 AM (GMT)
The list is from many sites and books I've read, I have got many ranks from many countrys in different era's. but for the lance-sgt. rank I'm pretty sure thats on wiki. And what I'm trying to achieve by it is to have something already in-hand incase it was ever needed. And I'd also appreciate if you'd ease up off my back about it.

jackx - August 18, 2008 03:09 PM (GMT)
I didn't mean to give you a hard time, though in retrospect, this thread has a very hostile atmosphere to it, to which I also contributed - even though I did not view your list as an attack on our rank system, like some others...

In any case, here's my attempt at a list, more or less off the top of my head, and with "modern" spelling.. I like the "old" ones, but since they are ultimately the result of a lack of any attention to or regulation for proper spelling, there's no way of being definite with them.

  • General
  • Major-General
  • Lieutenant-General
  • Brigadier/Brigadier-General

(Regimental rank is retained when assigned army rank, just like Company rank is retained when assigned battalion rank)

COs/Regiment (since there are almost only single-battalion-regiments during this period, there is no real practical distinction between regimental and battalion rank)
  • Colonel
  • Lieutenant-Colonel
  • Major
(Regimental/Battalion staff personnel usually is treated as holding a certain CO rank, but does not hold a commission)

COs/Company (or squadron)
  • Captain
  • Lieutenant-Captain (somewhat tricky, as technically speaking, the owner of this rank is still commissioned as a Lieutenant, though he is senior to "normal" Lieutenants and does draw higher pay.)
  • Ensign/Second-Lieutenant/Cornet (depending on the branch of service)

This is where it gets tricky, since these are less clearly regulated, and differentiation between rank and appointment is hard to make.
That leaves us with just Sergeant and Corporal as definite company NCO ranks, with the rest (as listed above by O'Brian) being dependant in their exact status on regimental/unit tradition and preferences.

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