Title: Many miles to go
Description: Erin Crocker article
Description: Erin Crocker article
Mist - July 24, 2006 07:34 PM (GMT)
Article Many miles to go
Crocker unbowed by some early bumps in the road
By PETE IORIZZO, Staff writer
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First published: Sunday, July 23, 2006
Memphis, Tenn.
The steady racket of 27,000 fans -- a sound not at all drowned out by the ear-splitting drone of 36 engines -- turned to a chorus of "oohs" and "ughs" during lap 60, when a flame-red truck suddenly spewed smoke and spun into a half-turn.
The cause of the spin, one longtime observer noted from the pits, appeared to be "sticking your nose where it doesn't belong."
The explanation seemed all the more fitting when the observer realized the driver was 25-year-old Erin Crocker, who has spent her life sticking her nose where she pleases, without apologies.
After all, most 10-year-old girls who grow up in Wilbraham, Mass., don't play ice hockey with boys. Most Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute graduates don't become race-car drivers. And most race-car drivers aren't 5-foot-6, 115-pound redheads with weaknesses for shoes and handbags.
Burdened by the spinout and a couple dings to her truck, Crocker chugged to a 30th-place finish at the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series O'Reilly 200, held last Saturday night at Memphis Motorsports Park. But even if Crocker's results are up-and-down at best, NASCAR nation seems ready to embrace a driver willing to crash through the gender barrier.
In fact, Crocker's results seem beside the point given the hoopla that surrounded her arrival. Weeks before the race, she traveled to the track and took ticket orders from fans, an event that helped fill the stands to near capacity on race day. Her photograph graced highway billboards on all corners of the city. And the day before the race, she spent 30 minutes signing autographs, putting her signature on everything from baseballs to photographs to a man's cane.
Whether she likes it or not, the publicity springs not from Crocker's driving but from her gender. And as much as she's loathe to discus comparisons to Danica Patrick, the Indy Racing League driver who nearly won the 2005 Indianapolis 500, the subject comes up in all of the 20-some interviews Crocker does in a typical week.
Though Crocker defies convention and tradition every bit as much as Patrick, the difference lies here: Crocker wants to be known as only one thing -- a race-car driver.
"I've never been one to ask for more because I'm a woman," Crocker says. "I've had success, and I think I can be unique and be the first to do things. But really, when you're racing, no one knows if you're a guy or a girl out there."
For now, Crocker remains more curiosity than contender. Since signing with Evernham Motorsports in November 2004, she has raced on the Busch, truck and ARCA circuits, all more or less minor leagues to the Nextel Cup series. Crocker sampled success here and there, but the first half of the 2006 season mostly yielded frustration, including crashes, miscues and back-of-the-pack finishes like the one in Memphis.
After the Memphis race, she complained to her mother for the first time about what she considered unfair treatment from the male drivers.
"She never, ever, ever uses the 'I'm-a-woman' excuse," says her mother, Sue. "But after (Memphis), she said, 'Mom, they were beating up on me out there.' She said, 'Mom, they were after me. They were hitting me. And I'm frustrated.' "
If gender-bias exists on the race track, drivers seem reluctant to acknowledge it. Though comments like one from IRL driver Ed Carpenter -- who told a television station Patrick might be more aggressive "at the right time of the month" -- sometimes make headlines, most drivers seem accepting, if not welcoming.
Drivers on the truck series say the topic rarely comes up, unless prompted by the media.
"When you're on the track, you don't even notice things like that," says Dave Reutimann, second in points in the truck series. "It's just another truck. You see a number. You don't see male or female. Erin's doing a great job. People ask if I have any reservations racing around a woman. I don't. When she's on the race track, she's just one of us."
Says Todd Bodine, the points leader, "That whole women-in-racing thing is from the past. I think I speak for most guys when I say if she can compete, if she can get out there and drive with us and run with us, more power to her."
Criticism of her driving seems to bother Crocker more than gender comments.
"I know I shouldn't, but sometimes I go in these Internet forums and people just rip me apart," Crocker says. "I feel like saying, 'You get behind the wheel and try it.' Even people in the media will write stuff. It's easy for you to sit in the media center and say that. It's not like I'm out there because it's funny and cool in the back of the pack. I can't tell you how much it rips my heart out."
Still, Crocker appears comfortable in the spotlight. She agrees to most interview requests, though her publicist keeps her sheltered in the days leading up to a race. She stops and smiles whenever asked for an autograph, even as a middle-aged woman approached her outside her hauler just 90 minutes before the race. She seemed uncomfortable only when, sitting at a table with three male drivers during an autograph session, a lady called out, "Hey Erin, win one for us girls."
"I'm trying," Crocker answers with a smile.
Stacy Cook, a 33-year-old woman from Hernando, Miss., calls to Crocker, "Time to show these boys what's up, Erin." Tony Evans and his daughter, 11-year-old Sarah, of Little Rock, Ark., slinked around the long line just to find Crocker and ask her to sign a picture.
"I like to see any girl who races," Sarah says. "I've followed Erin since the beginning of her career."
"I hope she makes it," her dad adds. "I hope that Danica Patrick comes over to NASCAR, too. I think they're good enough."
"Sometimes I feel a little goofy when people are making a big deal in front of the guys," Crocker says. "But it's really neat to have the support. Sometimes you get so upset about your results, you forget about all the people who are behind you."
The list of those backing Crocker is long and, for Evernham Motorsports, lucrative. A female racer helps the team tap sponsors like Betty Crocker (no relation), whose logo appears on the crew's jackets, just below the words, "The helping hands pit crew." General Mills also sponsors Crocker's cars, so the logos for Chex and Cheerios are splashed across the hood and side panels.
But long before the sponsors and media appearances and autographs, Crocker was just a curious 5-year-old girl following her older brothers, Seth and Billy, to their midget races. Crocker's father, William, grew up in Suffield, Conn., close enough to the Riverfront Park race track to hear the engines. He loved to tinker with cars, and even kept a small fleet to go with his motorcycle. He encouraged Billy and Seth to race. After two years of watching her brothers, Erin followed suit.
She loved racing, but she also dabbled in soccer, lacrosse, tennis and skiing. She was, at one time or another, on teams in all four in high school. When Seth and his friends played street hockey in front of the family home, Crocker was the goalie.
Her junior year of high school, Crocker's father died of cancer. She backed off racing for several years, in part because she found it difficult to get to races. By the time she enrolled at RPI, racing was more of a hobby. She spent more time with other interests, such as her industrial management and engineering major, varsity lacrosse and her sorority, Pi Beta Phi.
"I lived the college life," Crocker says. "I went to class and I partied."
She lived much differently than she does now that racing and travel take almost all of her time. Even away from the track she spends most of her time in the gym, running a couple miles three or four times a week and even boxing, a hobby she picked up from Evernham. But she expressed no regrets about a lifestyle hardly typical of a 20-something college grad.
"I see people my age going out to bars and hear stories about what they're doing," Crocker says. "I still keep in touch with my college friends and do that stuff rarely. But that's really not me. I don't find much entertainment in going out and getting wasted.
"I look back at those first two years in college, and it was great to go and take classes and party. But I didn't really get much accomplished. You're just sleeping in, doing what you have to do in class and going out at night. It's not me. I like to stay in good shape."
During her junior year at RPI, Crocker started hanging around race tracks more and even drove for a small-time team for several races. Doing that, she caught the eye of Mike Woodring, one of the top drivers on the Empire Super Sprints series. Woodring hired Crocker as a second driver for his Woodring Racing team, and RPI sponsored her car. They came up with a plan -- get Erin to a NASCAR team in three years.
They crisscrossed the country with their race cars for a year. Her turning point came in 2004, when she qualified for the Knoxville Nationals feature race, one of the most prestigious dirt-track racing events in the world. Media took interest, fans nicknamed her "the First Lady" and NASCAR teams started calling. She spurned an offer from Ford and signed with Evernham, almost three years to the day after she met Woodring.
"She had drive and determination and maybe some redheaded stubbornness," Woodring says. "Whatever it was, she just wanted to succeed in everything she did."
She still does, which explains why, after the race in Memphis, she climbed out of her Dodge truck, put her hands on her hips and barked something fiery but mostly inaudible over the engines. After a bad race, Crocker prefers to keep to herself for a few hours, usually for enough time to open a file on her laptop and make a few notes about the race. The files form a sort of running journal of her experience, which, her team director said, is about the only thing she lacks.
"Because of her experience level, sometimes she relates things to us a little differently," team director Patrick Donahue says. "We get confused, and it takes us a little longer to work on some things. We still make mistakes every week, because we're not fully understanding what she wants.
"But she can drive a race car. And she can drive it fast."
Even during the struggles, Crocker can appreciate all that racing has given her: A private plane to and from races and appearances; a stylish apartment in a modern section of Charlotte, N.C.; a company-issued Dodge Durango; and one of her favorite possessions -- a black-and-red racing helmet, which covers everything but her blue eyes and makes it impossible to tell if the face behind it belongs to a man or a woman.
Crocker unbowed by some early bumps in the road
By PETE IORIZZO, Staff writer
Click byline for more stories by writer.
First published: Sunday, July 23, 2006
Memphis, Tenn.
The steady racket of 27,000 fans -- a sound not at all drowned out by the ear-splitting drone of 36 engines -- turned to a chorus of "oohs" and "ughs" during lap 60, when a flame-red truck suddenly spewed smoke and spun into a half-turn.
The cause of the spin, one longtime observer noted from the pits, appeared to be "sticking your nose where it doesn't belong."
The explanation seemed all the more fitting when the observer realized the driver was 25-year-old Erin Crocker, who has spent her life sticking her nose where she pleases, without apologies.
After all, most 10-year-old girls who grow up in Wilbraham, Mass., don't play ice hockey with boys. Most Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute graduates don't become race-car drivers. And most race-car drivers aren't 5-foot-6, 115-pound redheads with weaknesses for shoes and handbags.
Burdened by the spinout and a couple dings to her truck, Crocker chugged to a 30th-place finish at the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series O'Reilly 200, held last Saturday night at Memphis Motorsports Park. But even if Crocker's results are up-and-down at best, NASCAR nation seems ready to embrace a driver willing to crash through the gender barrier.
In fact, Crocker's results seem beside the point given the hoopla that surrounded her arrival. Weeks before the race, she traveled to the track and took ticket orders from fans, an event that helped fill the stands to near capacity on race day. Her photograph graced highway billboards on all corners of the city. And the day before the race, she spent 30 minutes signing autographs, putting her signature on everything from baseballs to photographs to a man's cane.
Whether she likes it or not, the publicity springs not from Crocker's driving but from her gender. And as much as she's loathe to discus comparisons to Danica Patrick, the Indy Racing League driver who nearly won the 2005 Indianapolis 500, the subject comes up in all of the 20-some interviews Crocker does in a typical week.
Though Crocker defies convention and tradition every bit as much as Patrick, the difference lies here: Crocker wants to be known as only one thing -- a race-car driver.
"I've never been one to ask for more because I'm a woman," Crocker says. "I've had success, and I think I can be unique and be the first to do things. But really, when you're racing, no one knows if you're a guy or a girl out there."
For now, Crocker remains more curiosity than contender. Since signing with Evernham Motorsports in November 2004, she has raced on the Busch, truck and ARCA circuits, all more or less minor leagues to the Nextel Cup series. Crocker sampled success here and there, but the first half of the 2006 season mostly yielded frustration, including crashes, miscues and back-of-the-pack finishes like the one in Memphis.
After the Memphis race, she complained to her mother for the first time about what she considered unfair treatment from the male drivers.
"She never, ever, ever uses the 'I'm-a-woman' excuse," says her mother, Sue. "But after (Memphis), she said, 'Mom, they were beating up on me out there.' She said, 'Mom, they were after me. They were hitting me. And I'm frustrated.' "
If gender-bias exists on the race track, drivers seem reluctant to acknowledge it. Though comments like one from IRL driver Ed Carpenter -- who told a television station Patrick might be more aggressive "at the right time of the month" -- sometimes make headlines, most drivers seem accepting, if not welcoming.
Drivers on the truck series say the topic rarely comes up, unless prompted by the media.
"When you're on the track, you don't even notice things like that," says Dave Reutimann, second in points in the truck series. "It's just another truck. You see a number. You don't see male or female. Erin's doing a great job. People ask if I have any reservations racing around a woman. I don't. When she's on the race track, she's just one of us."
Says Todd Bodine, the points leader, "That whole women-in-racing thing is from the past. I think I speak for most guys when I say if she can compete, if she can get out there and drive with us and run with us, more power to her."
Criticism of her driving seems to bother Crocker more than gender comments.
"I know I shouldn't, but sometimes I go in these Internet forums and people just rip me apart," Crocker says. "I feel like saying, 'You get behind the wheel and try it.' Even people in the media will write stuff. It's easy for you to sit in the media center and say that. It's not like I'm out there because it's funny and cool in the back of the pack. I can't tell you how much it rips my heart out."
Still, Crocker appears comfortable in the spotlight. She agrees to most interview requests, though her publicist keeps her sheltered in the days leading up to a race. She stops and smiles whenever asked for an autograph, even as a middle-aged woman approached her outside her hauler just 90 minutes before the race. She seemed uncomfortable only when, sitting at a table with three male drivers during an autograph session, a lady called out, "Hey Erin, win one for us girls."
"I'm trying," Crocker answers with a smile.
Stacy Cook, a 33-year-old woman from Hernando, Miss., calls to Crocker, "Time to show these boys what's up, Erin." Tony Evans and his daughter, 11-year-old Sarah, of Little Rock, Ark., slinked around the long line just to find Crocker and ask her to sign a picture.
"I like to see any girl who races," Sarah says. "I've followed Erin since the beginning of her career."
"I hope she makes it," her dad adds. "I hope that Danica Patrick comes over to NASCAR, too. I think they're good enough."
"Sometimes I feel a little goofy when people are making a big deal in front of the guys," Crocker says. "But it's really neat to have the support. Sometimes you get so upset about your results, you forget about all the people who are behind you."
The list of those backing Crocker is long and, for Evernham Motorsports, lucrative. A female racer helps the team tap sponsors like Betty Crocker (no relation), whose logo appears on the crew's jackets, just below the words, "The helping hands pit crew." General Mills also sponsors Crocker's cars, so the logos for Chex and Cheerios are splashed across the hood and side panels.
But long before the sponsors and media appearances and autographs, Crocker was just a curious 5-year-old girl following her older brothers, Seth and Billy, to their midget races. Crocker's father, William, grew up in Suffield, Conn., close enough to the Riverfront Park race track to hear the engines. He loved to tinker with cars, and even kept a small fleet to go with his motorcycle. He encouraged Billy and Seth to race. After two years of watching her brothers, Erin followed suit.
She loved racing, but she also dabbled in soccer, lacrosse, tennis and skiing. She was, at one time or another, on teams in all four in high school. When Seth and his friends played street hockey in front of the family home, Crocker was the goalie.
Her junior year of high school, Crocker's father died of cancer. She backed off racing for several years, in part because she found it difficult to get to races. By the time she enrolled at RPI, racing was more of a hobby. She spent more time with other interests, such as her industrial management and engineering major, varsity lacrosse and her sorority, Pi Beta Phi.
"I lived the college life," Crocker says. "I went to class and I partied."
She lived much differently than she does now that racing and travel take almost all of her time. Even away from the track she spends most of her time in the gym, running a couple miles three or four times a week and even boxing, a hobby she picked up from Evernham. But she expressed no regrets about a lifestyle hardly typical of a 20-something college grad.
"I see people my age going out to bars and hear stories about what they're doing," Crocker says. "I still keep in touch with my college friends and do that stuff rarely. But that's really not me. I don't find much entertainment in going out and getting wasted.
"I look back at those first two years in college, and it was great to go and take classes and party. But I didn't really get much accomplished. You're just sleeping in, doing what you have to do in class and going out at night. It's not me. I like to stay in good shape."
During her junior year at RPI, Crocker started hanging around race tracks more and even drove for a small-time team for several races. Doing that, she caught the eye of Mike Woodring, one of the top drivers on the Empire Super Sprints series. Woodring hired Crocker as a second driver for his Woodring Racing team, and RPI sponsored her car. They came up with a plan -- get Erin to a NASCAR team in three years.
They crisscrossed the country with their race cars for a year. Her turning point came in 2004, when she qualified for the Knoxville Nationals feature race, one of the most prestigious dirt-track racing events in the world. Media took interest, fans nicknamed her "the First Lady" and NASCAR teams started calling. She spurned an offer from Ford and signed with Evernham, almost three years to the day after she met Woodring.
"She had drive and determination and maybe some redheaded stubbornness," Woodring says. "Whatever it was, she just wanted to succeed in everything she did."
She still does, which explains why, after the race in Memphis, she climbed out of her Dodge truck, put her hands on her hips and barked something fiery but mostly inaudible over the engines. After a bad race, Crocker prefers to keep to herself for a few hours, usually for enough time to open a file on her laptop and make a few notes about the race. The files form a sort of running journal of her experience, which, her team director said, is about the only thing she lacks.
"Because of her experience level, sometimes she relates things to us a little differently," team director Patrick Donahue says. "We get confused, and it takes us a little longer to work on some things. We still make mistakes every week, because we're not fully understanding what she wants.
"But she can drive a race car. And she can drive it fast."
Even during the struggles, Crocker can appreciate all that racing has given her: A private plane to and from races and appearances; a stylish apartment in a modern section of Charlotte, N.C.; a company-issued Dodge Durango; and one of her favorite possessions -- a black-and-red racing helmet, which covers everything but her blue eyes and makes it impossible to tell if the face behind it belongs to a man or a woman.
lalabee - July 24, 2006 07:44 PM (GMT)
I can't even read that whole article. I just have no respect for her because of her personal life. Here is someone who is, on one hand, trying to prove that women can do anything that men can do, and then, well, we've all heard the rumors...
Princess_Sara400 - July 24, 2006 08:01 PM (GMT)
rumors are just rumors. I highly doubt the rumors are true
NeverBeenThawed - July 24, 2006 08:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (lalabee @ Jul 24 2006, 01:44 PM) |
| I can't even read that whole article. I just have no respect for her because of her personal life. Here is someone who is, on one hand, trying to prove that women can do anything that men can do, and then, well, we've all heard the rumors... |
Regardless of whether the rumors are true, we've all heard them. And they have to be rooted in something. I'm with you, lalabee. That said, I hope and pray that the rumors aren't true. She could do a lot for our sport. But it's going to take a lot of time. She's been fairly slow to develop and with the nature of the sport...you almost have to be fast.
Scrapbookgirl9 - July 24, 2006 08:37 PM (GMT)
sigh, what she does in her personal life is that........her personal life. I'm not going to get into the rumors if they be true, then so be it, if they ain't then so be that too.....
I cheer for Erin the race-car driver and the nice person. Everytime I've met her she's been nothing but nice and a one of my friends has a huge crush on her and Erin knows who he is when he comes to see her at the appearances, its funny and she's cool.
I hope Evernham continues to stick behind her and she continues to gain experience and does her best. I personally hope she makes it, I'd love to see her do well. Regardless of how she leads her personal life
I cheer for Erin the race-car driver and the nice person. Everytime I've met her she's been nothing but nice and a one of my friends has a huge crush on her and Erin knows who he is when he comes to see her at the appearances, its funny and she's cool.
I hope Evernham continues to stick behind her and she continues to gain experience and does her best. I personally hope she makes it, I'd love to see her do well. Regardless of how she leads her personal life
Court - July 24, 2006 08:54 PM (GMT)
Ditto what Christy said...
I know who your talking about that has the crush on her lmao I have some pics to prove it
I cheer for her, too. She's still in the learning process right now, but with more experience she'll be a damn good driver.
I know who your talking about that has the crush on her lmao I have some pics to prove it
I cheer for her, too. She's still in the learning process right now, but with more experience she'll be a damn good driver.
Scrapbookgirl9 - July 24, 2006 08:56 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Court @ Jul 24 2006, 04:54 PM) |
| Ditto what Christy said... I know who your talking about that has the crush on her lmao I have some pics to prove it I cheer for her, too. She's still in the learning process right now, but with more experience she'll be a damn good driver. |
haha, I've showed him some of the pics we have......he was laughing at us
Court - July 24, 2006 08:58 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrapbookgirl9 @ Jul 24 2006, 04:56 PM) | ||
haha, I've showed him some of the pics we have......he was laughing at us |
Was he laughing as us... or just me? lmao
Dayna - July 24, 2006 10:34 PM (GMT)
:unsure: I haven't heard any rumors. I guess that's a good thing.
From what I know, I like Erin. I'd love to see her run well in every race. :)
From what I know, I like Erin. I'd love to see her run well in every race. :)
Scrapbookgirl9 - July 24, 2006 11:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Court @ Jul 24 2006, 04:58 PM) | ||||
Was he laughing as us... or just me? lmao |
haha, at all of us........he thinks we are all crazy
lalabee - July 25, 2006 02:07 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (NeverBeenThawed @ Jul 24 2006, 03:25 PM) | ||
Regardless of whether the rumors are true, we've all heard them. And they have to be rooted in something. I'm with you, lalabee. That said, I hope and pray that the rumors aren't true. She could do a lot for our sport. But it's going to take a lot of time. She's been fairly slow to develop and with the nature of the sport...you almost have to be fast. |
Like you said, she's been slow to develop, which makes me really believe those rumors. This isn't a sport where people are given all that much time to adjust these days.
I'd love to see a woman do well in Nascar. I've met Erin, too, and not just at random signings. She has the personality to make it in Nascar. I'd love to see her do well, but if she does, I hope that there is no question that it was anythig more than her driving ability that got her to where she ends up.
Krissy - July 25, 2006 03:48 AM (GMT)
I don't think i've heard any rumors either, but that article is sad how she has to read all that mean stuff about her. :(
ROCK ON ERIN! :na
ROCK ON ERIN! :na
Melissa - July 25, 2006 01:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrapbookgirl9 @ Jul 24 2006, 04:37 PM) |
| sigh, what she does in her personal life is that........her personal life. I'm not going to get into the rumors if they be true, then so be it, if they ain't then so be that too..... I cheer for Erin the race-car driver and the nice person. Everytime I've met her she's been nothing but nice and a one of my friends has a huge crush on her and Erin knows who he is when he comes to see her at the appearances, its funny and she's cool. I hope Evernham continues to stick behind her and she continues to gain experience and does her best. I personally hope she makes it, I'd love to see her do well. Regardless of how she leads her personal life |
well said Christy.
I wish Erin the best. I believe that with more experience she will make it.
Lucky Ducky - July 25, 2006 02:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Scrapbookgirl9 @ Jul 24 2006, 03:37 PM) |
| I hope Evernham continues to stick behind her and she continues to gain experience and does her best. |
No comment. :)
AmeriKahneGirl924 - July 25, 2006 02:23 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Lucky Ducky @ Jul 25 2006, 09:15 AM) | ||
No comment. :) |
:ya
lalabee - July 25, 2006 04:01 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE | ||
QUOTE (Scrapbookgirl9 @ Jul 24 2006, 03:37 PM)
No comment. |
OH MY GOD!
:nanahump :nanahump :nanahump :nanahump
kurt busch - August 1, 2006 04:52 AM (GMT)
nice to see only one opinion matters.
you dont know this but i say that because the stupid mods deleted my comment. there was NOTHING offensive about it either. i just think if you dont care about a drivers personal life, you shouldnt get so involved in it.
you dont know this but i say that because the stupid mods deleted my comment. there was NOTHING offensive about it either. i just think if you dont care about a drivers personal life, you shouldnt get so involved in it.
NeverBeenThawed - August 1, 2006 05:00 AM (GMT)
Ray is a god, after all. And Erin can possibly do no wrong because she's a woman in the sport.
AmeriKahneGirl924 - August 1, 2006 11:37 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (NeverBeenThawed @ Aug 1 2006, 12:00 AM) |
| Ray is a god, after all. And Erin can possibly do no wrong because she's a woman in the sport. |
I see you got the memo, then :tounge
NeverBeenThawed - August 1, 2006 12:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (AmeriKahneGirl924 @ Aug 1 2006, 05:37 AM) | ||
I see you got the memo, then :tounge |
Loud and Clear.
Melissa - August 1, 2006 12:30 PM (GMT)
Not a God just a man that is entitled to make his own decisions. As far as Erin goes, she is not any more perfect than anybody else. Just like with all other drivers, if ya don't like her than fine that is your opinion. You are entitled to meke your decisions just like Ray is entitled to make his.
I will say this, I have enough to do worrying about my own business than to spend time worry about a man's personal life and whether a driver is a man or a woman.
I will say this, I have enough to do worrying about my own business than to spend time worry about a man's personal life and whether a driver is a man or a woman.