In elementary school, everything is so easy. The atmosphere is (usually) relaxed, and everything is simple. Too many people have spent too much time complaining. Grades 1-8 should be some of the best years of your life. Unfortunately, now elementary school is just a race. Kids get good marks, teachers pressure them to get better marks. Kids who don't think they are stupid and do even worse. Once it gets like this, it isn't a school anymore. It's a race. A race you cannot win. So try not to get yourself in these races. Elementary school marks don't count for much.(except grade 8, if you want to get into a private highschool.) So RELAX, and enjoy the "best years of your life".

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, here. Well, I'm not really afraid, but that's beside the point. Many, many kids think grades 1-8 are hell. They can't wait to get to high school (They're in for an unpleasant surprise).

The point is, it all depends on your own experience what you think of Grades 1-8. Some people find it easy, some don't.

~Alway

This is why.

Yeah, what we need in these "schools" is REAL learning. Kids don't learn much in schools. It's because the stuff doesn't interest them. We need to teach kids what they need in life, the skills that they will actually use, and cut out the useless crap.

In the words of Albert Einstein,

~Alway

Since we're in the grades 1-8 section, I'll assume you're talking about grades 1-8

It doesn't interest them? Who are you to judge that? Some say math is boring - what if you want to be a mathematician? History is dull for some - what if you want to be an historian? And if you aren't interested in any of the things kids learn at school? You'll get your chance in highschool or university.

What do we need in life? We need math. We need history. We need language. We need science. Everything we learn at school.

Since you run this anti school site, you must be determined to hate school. But if you think about it, it is actually useful, even if it's extremely boring.

This site isn't really anti-school. It's trying to improve the school system. Right now, from what I have seen, a bunch of the things (not EVERYTHING) we learn in school is useless. What I mean is things like, in history, we go too in-depth in grades 1-8. The basic concepts should definitely be covered, but not all of the little details. Also, the practice work kids are given is very repetitive, and what should be done is that when the kids understand the lesson, you move on. This usually takes only about 2 practice questions, not 10 and up. In my opinion, as soon as kids have an idea of where they want to go in life, and are mature enough to make that choice, they should begin going down that path, which would mean they choose courses, like high school. Remember, this is just my opinion.

Also, not everyone needs ALL math, history, science, or any other subject. That is why the opinion above is one I believe would work.

I am not determined to hate school.

~Alway

hey guise stop fiten!!!

Don't be ridiculous Vic. We weren't fighting. We simply had a polite disagreement, and were having a mature argument. I hope you understood that, maturity, because judging by your posts you aren't very mature yourself. I'm sure neither of us intended offense, and neither of us were childish enough to receive it. And so, with no undue reluctance, I concede the point, and say that I agree with you, Alway. Although at first glance the site seems to be very anti school, after reading your opinion I will say that the inefficient, slow, and waste of money we call the education system needs to be overhauled.

I can see now that the strenuous task of memorizing, drilling, and testing on many subjects is not only wearisome, but a futile task as well, for the teachers and students. Because the students are so uninterested in the subjects, they will not work as hard. The teachers will try to make them to work harder, which they will ignore since they weren't interested in the subject in the first place. And if they aren't interested, you can't just make them learn. I've had experience in elementary schools, and I have seen this happen before my eyes. Children don't have "learning disabilities". They have a teacher forcing them to study subjects they do not like.

But you say that elementary school aged children are mature enough to choose what careers they want to peruse when they finish school. But what if they decide to change their minds? If you take a grade 2 class and ask them what they want to be when they grow up, they will say things like "Astronaut" and "Princess". If you ask a grade 5 class the same question, they will answer differently. A good thing about the ongoing education system (and this is one of few good things) is that children have 10 years to think about what they mature. In your system, they have about 4. If we have adults growing up and regretting their career decisions, then your education would be as superfluous as our current one.

So fundamentally, this post says that while I agree that the education system does need to be overhauled, I disagree with your solution.

Yes, that flaw in my system is one I was trying to figure out a solution to. Maybe, when the children have a rough idea of where they want to go, (i.e. computers, or construction) then they could start taking those kinds of courses. Eventually, they would narrow it down to an exact career. Of course, if you don't like your career, you could always go back down to the bottom and learn something else, just like going back to college or university.

I can kind of see that working.

~Alway