Title: AMA District V Fly-In Jamboree - Mobile, AL
Mustangman - January 30, 2006 01:16 AM (GMT)
Ok everyone!!! I would like to get some feed back on all of the types of flying we would like to have at the Jamboree.
Free Flight
Control Line
Electric
Scale
Helicopter
Combat
Also I would like to start a list of anyone that would like to or can help in running the event, like radio impound, cooking, and so on. Do not have to be a member to help!!! :D
Alvin and Frits if I could get you two guys to work on a flyer for the event would be great! :dance:
I'm working on the application for the event sanction right now and will get with Tony Stillman on what all to mark in it.
Thanks, Andy
alvinonline - January 30, 2006 01:55 AM (GMT)
I will help with cooking and getting field ready.
And do a web page just for this event.
I have no idea of what is to be expected as regards the actual flying events at an AMA District Jamboree.
Surely there are some guidelines or something suggesting what is required or desired by AMA.
Or is national AMA out of it and this is something Tony came up with just as a district V sponsored event and is organized according to what Tony and hosting club want to do?
Mustangman - January 30, 2006 02:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (alvinonline @ Jan 29 2006, 08:55 PM) |
| Or is national AMA out of it and this is something Tony came up with just as a district V sponsored event and is organized according to what Tony and hosting club want to do? |
Yes.....
TONY F - January 30, 2006 03:04 AM (GMT)
I will help with the cooking & what ever need's to be done.we will need a lot of food. and I might help Alvin water the grass. I might camp out that night so I won't have to drive home. :cloud9:
Mr.Incredible - January 30, 2006 03:10 AM (GMT)
I will volunteer to help out with whatever needs doin before/during the event as long as I don't get locked down so I can't be part of the flyin.
I vote for combat to be a part of it.
alvinonline - January 30, 2006 03:10 AM (GMT)
Website for this event linked to below.
www.alvinrc.com/jamboree
Mustangman - January 30, 2006 03:42 AM (GMT)
How about a swap-meet at the event?
Also any RC Vender's Welcome?
jonkoppisch - January 30, 2006 04:01 AM (GMT)
Swap meet and venders sounds good!!!!
Mike - January 30, 2006 06:30 AM (GMT)
I think it'd be great to have some venders if we can get them. Also maybe some demonstration pilots like the American Eagle scale planes guy that was at the last scale meet and the fun fly competitor that was at the 3D meet (sorry, I don't remember either of their names).
We have enough members with Q500 planes to put on a good pylon demo as well, if they would all just show up with their pylon planes at the same time and actually race them. :D
cryptic_stylz - January 30, 2006 11:21 AM (GMT)
I would help out as much as weere needed any where you all need me at. I would like to see combat and participate in the event. Also I think the swap meet and vendors are good Ideas
Billyfrost - January 30, 2006 02:25 PM (GMT)
Flying Dutchman - January 30, 2006 06:23 PM (GMT)
• I will pass Andy's original request for volunteers on to all ACMA club members by email, as this Forum does not reach "everyone".
• May I suggest adding Sport Planes, 3D Planes and Jets as three more possible categories, as they don't necessarily fit the "Scale" category?
• Certain events could go on simultaneously.
• We should have a layout of the field to help place certain events in areas that do not require a runway, i.e. control line, free flight, certain helicopters. (I have that original drawing...)
• We should use the full 80 acress of the landfill site, not just our leased 40 acres.
• With Tony Still man's and Andy's input I will start work on a Jamboree flier.
Mike - January 30, 2006 07:42 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Flying Dutchman @ Jan 30 2006, 12:23 PM) |
| • We should use the full 80 acress of the landfill site, not just our leased 40 acres. |
Is the "lower 40" accessible and useable? I've never had the pleasure of fetching an airplane in that particular zip code, but I'm curious as to what it could be used for. It seems like a good benefit for free flight (so long as they miss the poles), but I'm unsure for what other purposes it could be used.
Chazon - January 30, 2006 08:18 PM (GMT)
Put me down for helping in any capacity.
alvinonline - January 30, 2006 08:23 PM (GMT)
I think that we should take a realistic look at what type flying will actually probably participate in this event, the limitations of our field, and available man power considering who will actually be willing to help all day both days besides the before event preperations.
Are the people who will attend from out of town looking to see a show or will be expecting to fly their own aircraft as much as possible.
This is not the NATS, or we will have to lease Brookley Field.
We can handle most any RC flying stuff all at one time.
Free Flight would want to set up in extreme upwind part of field so their models will drift with wind over the field area for landing.
Problems - Depending on where the setup, rainy weather, it might be a bog and vehicular traffic running around all over landfill. also depending on wind direction, the freeflight models might be flying over/landing in RC area.
Control Line flyers will expect a smooth large circular level site. They like their activity like we like ours and expect a decent area to fly in.
At least Control Line flying is contained to their area, but I don't know were any such suitable area is on the landfill and would it be accessable to most any type vehicle in any weather condition.
Actually I don't see enough free flight or control line interest/participation to justify the effort and potential problems.
I see the following type aircraft/flyers participating.
Scale, Sport Planes, 3D Giant Scale, Electrics, and Helicopters and in that order of actually attending and flying.
We can handle all these flying at same time with fixed wing aircraft useing runway and helicopters useing south taxi strip and pad and keeping flying mostly south of there and some to east of there with supervision and care.
Any swapmeet and venders can be in some static area useing part of pavilion and/or tents.
I would hate to see us over reach and not be able to handle too large an assortment of flying due to limitations of man power and facilities.
Better to do a good job at fewer things than a poor job at many things.
That is why the NATS got broke up into more than one venue and streched out over several weeks.
Mustangman - January 30, 2006 09:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (alvinonline @ Jan 30 2006, 03:23 PM) |
I think that we should take a realistic look at what type flying will actually probably participate in this event, the limitations of our field, and available man power considering who will actually be willing to help all day both days besides the before event preperations.
Are the people who will attend from out of town looking to see a show or will be expecting to fly their own aircraft as much as possible.
This is not the NATS, or we will have to lease Brookley Field. We can handle most any RC flying stuff all at one time. Free Flight would want to set up in extreme upwind part of field so their models will drift with wind over the field area for landing. Problems - Depending on where the setup, rainy weather, it might be a bog and vehicular traffic running around all over landfill. also depending on wind direction, the freeflight models might be flying over/landing in RC area. Control Line flyers will expect a smooth large circular level site. They like their activity like we like ours and expect a decent area to fly in. At least Control Line flying is contained to their area, but I don't know were any such suitable area is on the landfill and would it be accessable to most any type vehicle in any weather condition.
Actually I don't see enough free flight or control line interest/participation to justify the effort and potential problems.
I see the following type aircraft/flyers participating. Scale, Sport Planes, 3D Giant Scale, Electrics, and Helicopters and in that order of actually attending and flying. We can handle all these flying at same time with fixed wing aircraft useing runway and helicopters useing south taxi strip and pad and keeping flying mostly south of there and some to east of there with supervision and care. Any swapmeet and venders can be in some static area useing part of pavilion and/or tents.
I would hate to see us over reach and not be able to handle too large an assortment of flying due to limitations of man power and facilities. Better to do a good job at fewer things than a poor job at many things. That is why the NATS got broke up into more than one venue and streched out over several weeks. |
This is why I am asking these question now, so we can put in the flier and web site just what type of flying we will have.
Rob Harrison - January 30, 2006 10:37 PM (GMT)
Now that deer season is almost over, please put me down to help in any way possible.
I have a 4-wheeler that could be used for transportation to the out-lying parts to the field for the free-flight, downed planes, etc....
Just let me know what needs to be done and I will be happy to help out.
Mustangman - January 31, 2006 12:29 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Rob Harrison @ Jan 30 2006, 05:37 PM) |
I have a 4-wheeler that could be used for transportation to the out-lying parts to the field for the free-flight, downed planes, etc....
Just let me know what needs to be done and I will be happy to help out. |
That would be great.....would be nice to have a small trailer also to put the planes on when we go to pick them up.
jonkoppisch - January 31, 2006 01:36 AM (GMT)
Sweet!!!!!! Maybe one of us will get a chance to use it when you're not going to pick up steve ;) (JK)
jday - January 31, 2006 02:01 AM (GMT)
I have cleared my calendar so I can help both days. At this time I do not plan to fly so that I can give my full attention where needed. We have such a large field that I believe that we can open up to other forms of flying. If we build a place for control line I believe that it will be used. This could also add to our club membership to include control line fliers. I was heavy into this and would consider getting a plane to add variety to my flying experience if a good place is provided. I don't believe free fliers would be a problem if we assign them times to fly at the fly in. Most people might like to watch them do their thing for a time anyway. Isn't that what this fly in is about; so we may be able to observe other forms of flying than what we may be accustomed to.
jonkoppisch - January 31, 2006 02:01 AM (GMT)
OOPS, forgot about the way Al's been crashing planes lately.... We may never get a chance to use the 4-wheeler :rolleyes:
Mr.Incredible - January 31, 2006 02:23 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jonkoppisch @ Jan 30 2006, 07:36 PM) |
| Sweet!!!!!! Maybe one of us will get a chance to use it when you're not going to pick up steve ;) (JK) |
Cool transportation to the crash site, that changes everything!!!!
These Solo crashes are boring me though, I might start taking out others with me just to spread the fun around a bit. I think that big orange and yellow thing that hovers in one spot alot will make a nice easy target. Jon could you please paint me a nice bulls eye on it when you get a chance, it will be spectactular and a real crowd pleaser I am sure, and after all it's just a $99 ARF that's been wrecked and repaired several times already, so what the heck! :D
jonkoppisch - January 31, 2006 03:28 AM (GMT)
lol, I need the design on the bottom like the matt chapman cap, lol
Rob Harrison - January 31, 2006 01:58 PM (GMT)
I'm sure I could round up a trailer somewhere.
It sounds like that there may be a lot of carnage though...
alvinonline - January 31, 2006 02:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Rob Harrison @ Jan 31 2006, 07:58 AM) |
I'm sure I could round up a trailer somewhere.
It sounds like that there may be a lot of carnage though... |
Carnage at our regular weekends only.
Should not be any/much carnage at an AMA Jamboree. :no:
Just a couple of crash bags and use of the wheelbarrow might do. :D
Now, back on topic please. <_<
TonyF3A - January 31, 2006 02:48 PM (GMT)
Guys:
The event is designed to invite any AMA member to attend with his/her airplane. We are inviting ALL types of models from Free Flight to Control Line to R/C. We want to do the best we can to accomidate them.
The event is hosted by AMA District 5 (That's me!), so we don't have to worry about HQ telling us what we can or can't do. That's my job.
Basically, we just want a fly-in type event that is open to all District V AMA members. I am providing $500 for the club to use for a meal for all DV members, and free T-Shirts to all AMA D5 members in attendance.
The idea is to CELEBRATE all types of models within AMA!
The date is set for June 3 & 4, and I need to get the flier and sanction in soon. I am having a special LOGO designed by the graphics arts department at AMA. I was able to look at the early version last weekend, and it really looks good!
I will be mailing out invitations to all AMA clubs within 400 miles of Mobile to attend! I hope we have so many that you can't park all the cars!!!
rodgilbert - January 31, 2006 03:46 PM (GMT)
I hope to be off work, and will be there both days to cook or whatever else needs to be done.
jonkoppisch - January 31, 2006 08:57 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Rob Harrison @ Jan 31 2006, 07:58 AM) |
I'm sure I could round up a trailer somewhere.
It sounds like that there may be a lot of carnage though... |
lol, we may need an extra dumpster, lol
:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
jonkoppisch - January 31, 2006 09:01 PM (GMT)
Hopefully we'll have so many people that there will be a parking problem!!!! There's plenty of room, may have to get some of the people to park down in the south 40. Also might have to reserve the top parking lot for fliers/handicap only, unloading and loading. I'm looking forward to this summer's fly ins!!! Hope to see some cool new planes... I'll propbably be available to help out in some way... maybe I can be the valet parker B)
TONY F - January 31, 2006 11:03 PM (GMT)
:no: can not do control line on south end of pits,as that is Mr Jetten's runway and he might hurt someone. :hysterical: :roflmao: :hysterical:
alvinonline - February 1, 2006 01:48 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (TONY F @ Jan 31 2006, 05:03 PM) |
| :no: can not do control line on south end of pits,as that is Mr Jetten's runway and he might hurt someone. :hysterical: :roflmao: :hysterical: |
What are you trying to say, Tony.
Maybe with Frits flying the runway would be the safest place for U-Control?
4star40 - February 1, 2006 11:02 AM (GMT)
Man! This is great! Put L.T. and myself down to help. We will both be out of school.
Lee
lahughes3 - February 1, 2006 11:04 AM (GMT)
Oops... I was signed as L.T.
Flying Dutchman - February 1, 2006 09:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| Maybe with Frits flying the runway would be the safest place for U-Control? |
Well now, if we ARE going to fly over the U-control guys, just remember, you have to stay at an altitude of 72 feet or more, unless you want the U-guy to snag you from the sky... :yickes: If I have to give up my emergency landing area, so be it...
C'mon now. All seriousness aside... :rolleyes:
Andy wants to discuss and be looking at possible locations for all these very different events starting this weekend.
Just remember — we have 80 acres to play with.
There is a lot to consider here. It will be the biggest event Azalea City Model Aeronautics has ever hosted. :yes:
And if Tony Stillman invites the world, as he has promised, we must be prepared (car parking, RV parking, vendor area, swap meet area, food, drinks, toilets, registration, transmitter impound, etc.) :wacko:
So best think BIG!... :yes:
alvinonline - February 1, 2006 09:44 PM (GMT)
U-Control - SouthEast corner of field.
FreeFlight - NorthEast corner of field.
RC - Rest of field.
Pilot parking - Front row.
Helper parking - Next row.
Spectator parking - What is left.
RV Parking - ???
Vendor, SwapMeet - Pavilion.
Food, Drink - Big table NW corner of pavilion & Coke machine.
Radio Impound - Transmitter impound with registeration table.
Toilets - Portalet area maybe with a couple of extras.
Parking and Crowd Control - Deputy Joey and associates for free food.
Mike - February 1, 2006 09:57 PM (GMT)
I'm still curious as to what usefullness the lower 40 will serve other than an expanded flyover/landing area for non-controlled models such as free flight and rocketry. I mean, if it's accessible by a normal car and has sufficient area to clear for a control line circle or rocket/free flight launch (depending on wind), that'd be great. I may drive my truck down there this weekend to see if I can come up with some ideas.
jonkoppisch - February 1, 2006 10:29 PM (GMT)
Alvin's idea sounds pretty good except I think it's going to be way to crowded in the pavillion. I'd move the radio impound next to the pavillion in one of the wings, either to the north or south. Save some congestion....
Mike - February 1, 2006 11:14 PM (GMT)
Here's an idea. Leave the impound in the pavillion, as I like the idea of it being central for pilots in the north and south pits. Depending on how many venders we have, set them up behind the pit fences on either side of the pavillion and have cars park a few feet further back than usual. Should still be plenty of room for parking, just may not have room for cars to be parked "sideways" along the grass area behind the parking lot. Designate a certain area at the north and south ends of the pit fence for "loading/unloading only" for when the front row spots run out to allow people to pull up and unload their planes, then park along the west fence or whatever is available. This will give pilots and spectators alike an opportunity to spread up and down the pit areas to both look at other people's airplanes as well as visit the vender displays without congesting the pavillion, which would be primarily for cooking/sitting/eating and spectator comfort.
Then again, if we only have 2 venders or so this plan really isn't necessary. Just a thought though.
jonkoppisch - February 2, 2006 12:04 AM (GMT)
That could work. I was thinking of all the mess of the impound. Think of having 50 or more people in the pavillion eating, talking, spectating, not even including the venders. You want it away somewhat from the confusion so that there's no chance of any mistakes... somewhere easily accessable to the pilots but away from a lot of people standing around talking, eating etc..... At Joe Nall, you check in the radios at a tent on the flight line then when you go to fly you go to the tent to request your radio, bring your radio and plane to the line at one of the pilots station and get your pin at the tent at the flight station... No idea how big this will be but you don't want a dozen pilots all at the same spot at the impound....
Another thing they do is separate the frequency's, ex. For regular flying you must use above channel 30, 29 and below is for float flying but could easily be for heli's etc. Wouldn't be easily done on a 1 time event but something to think about.
Mustangman - February 2, 2006 03:54 AM (GMT)
If we need to we could put a tent at the nort pits right at the pavillion.
Will just have to see how big this gets. :dance: