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Title: Mystery Aircraft Twentyeight (We Have A Winner)
Description: identify it.


alvinonline - August 8, 2005 06:44 AM (GMT)
First person to post here with correct identification of this aircraft, wins the "boobie" prize. Ten points added to their forum member post count and the win will be shown in their member rank/status till the next contest winner.

Mystery Aircraft Twentyeight picture will be posted here Monday (8/8/05) night at 11:59 PM Central Time (US & Canada), Mexico City.

Here it is a few minutes early:

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ALANXP - August 9, 2005 07:17 AM (GMT)
I think is a beriot or a farman.

alvinonline - August 9, 2005 07:24 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ALANXP @ Aug 9 2005, 02:17 AM)
I think is a beriot or a farman.

Which one?

ALANXP - August 9, 2005 07:26 AM (GMT)
I think it is a Farman.

Billyfrost - August 9, 2005 12:52 PM (GMT)
It is a beriot ;) :D

alvinonline - August 9, 2005 07:49 PM (GMT)
Nope...Nadda...Sorry...Both Alan and Billy have guessed incorrectly.

ALANXP - August 10, 2005 08:11 AM (GMT)
mmmmm I think its a fokker. :unsure:

alvinonline - August 10, 2005 07:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ALANXP @ Aug 10 2005, 03:11 AM)
mmmmm I think its a fokker. :unsure:

Alan,

I can't take fokker as a guess.

There are lots of different fokker airplanes.

Mystery Aircraft guesses must be as specific as possible to actual aircraft name and model.

ALANXP - August 11, 2005 07:29 AM (GMT)
it is a Moisant brochure. :huh: :toontwo:

alvinonline - August 11, 2005 05:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ALANXP @ Aug 11 2005, 02:29 AM)
it is a Moisant brochure. :huh: :toontwo:

Sorry...Good Try...But not correct. :no:

ALANXP - August 11, 2005 05:47 PM (GMT)
its a AlbatrosTaube

Josh Cawthra - August 11, 2005 06:29 PM (GMT)
It's an early canard design airplane that I can't figure out. Looks like someone scrounged up some ol metal they covered their barn with.. I'll keep on lookin.. B)

alvinonline - August 11, 2005 08:49 PM (GMT)
Sorry Alan, not correct.

Josh is working hard on it, looks like.

ALANXP - August 12, 2005 07:54 AM (GMT)
its a Jeannin.Stahltaube :unsure:

alvinonline - August 12, 2005 08:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ALANXP @ Aug 12 2005, 02:54 AM)
its a Jeannin.Stahltaube :unsure:

Alan,

I am not sure what a "Jeannin.Stahltaube" is, but it is not the Mystery Aircraft Twentyeight for sure. ;)

I can tell that you are working hard on figureing this one out though. :banghead:




Josh Cawthra - August 12, 2005 09:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (alvinonline @ Aug 12 2005, 02:11 PM)
Alan,

I am not sure what a "Jeannin.Stahltaube" is, but it is not the Mystery Aircraft Twentyeight for sure. ;)

I can tell that you are working hard on figureing this one out though. :banghead:

This is going to drive me to drink.. heh.. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

alvinonline - August 13, 2005 03:59 AM (GMT)
Seems like this one might need little more reward to get yawls brain juices flowing.

So, I am bumping the prize up to 15 points added to winner's forum post count. :)

ALANXP - August 13, 2005 06:45 AM (GMT)
I think its a Pfitzner Monoplane :banghead:

alvinonline - August 13, 2005 03:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ALANXP @ Aug 13 2005, 01:45 AM)
I think its a Pfitzner Monoplane :banghead:

Nope...No correct guess yet.

ALANXP - August 13, 2005 05:19 PM (GMT)
its a 1915.Jeannin.Stahltaube?????? :banghead:

alvinonline - August 14, 2005 05:29 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ALANXP @ Aug 13 2005, 12:19 PM)
its a 1915.Jeannin.Stahltaube?????? :banghead:

Alan,
Nope, not correct.
Not a "Stahltaube" of any kind.

ALANXP - August 14, 2005 04:54 PM (GMT)
its a Rumpler taub :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

alvinonline - August 14, 2005 05:50 PM (GMT)
Hey Alan, you are going to hurt yourself with all that head butting and wrong guesses. :P

Nope, still no correct guess.

ALANXP - August 14, 2005 07:31 PM (GMT)
Its a Knbel Eindecker

alvinonline - August 15, 2005 05:29 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ALANXP @ Aug 14 2005, 02:31 PM)
Its a Knbel Eindecker

Nope...That is not correct. :no:

ALANXP - August 15, 2005 07:38 AM (GMT)
its a FokkerSpin

Mike - August 15, 2005 02:55 PM (GMT)
It's not a anything, but a homebuilt experimental plane built by some yahoo in his barn way back when, and he probably died in it after only a small number of flights.

Josh Cawthra - August 15, 2005 05:30 PM (GMT)
Actually, I think the guy USED his barn to make it.. :banana:

alvinonline - August 15, 2005 06:16 PM (GMT)
Nope Alan, not a Fokkerspin.

Here is some info hint:
This airplane was the first one to be *********** ** *** *****.
Ant it was the beginning of the ******* ******** *******.

Though this airplane does not look to be much of anything, it was really something that broke new ground back in 19** and some folks probably thought that it would not get off the ground.

There...That ought to do it. Wonder who will be first with correct identification.

grim_reaper27 - August 16, 2005 12:17 AM (GMT)
I am pretty sure that the mystery aircraft is some early version of the P-51 Mustang. :yes:
My favorite airplane.

I am crazy about Mustangs. :wub:
If they only had a Coast Guard version. ;)

Josh Cawthra - August 16, 2005 12:32 AM (GMT)
Took some doing, but at last, I found it..

The airplane is a Reissner Ente, or Reissner Cunard.. Here is some historical data on the airplane..

Historical Data:

The Reissner Ente is not really a Junkers design, but it was influenced by the ideas of Hugo Junkers and most parts of it were built at the Junkers Research Institutes at Aachen and ICO at Dessau. The principle ideas for this aircraft came from Prof. Hans Reissner, who was engaged at the Technical University of Aachen with practical flying experiments in 1908. Initial experiments were performed on a Voisin biplane, which underwent intensive modifications. But when this aircraft crashed in 1909, Reissner decided to develope an own aircraft. Hugo Junkers, who had already observed the Voisin flights, joint Hans Reissner and advised him to use an all metal construction for his aircraft. Reissner designed a duck configuration monoplane with a latticed fuselage. According to Junkers' advise, the wings were constructed with corrugated sheet metal panels, which were slightly convex. The covering of the wing was folded in zigzag course.

Hugo Junkers took over the responsiblity for the wing production of Reissner's Ente at his ICO facilities. Initial discussions at Dessau were started in February 1910. It took two years to finish the construction work of Reissner's Ente. In February 1912 the aircraft was completed at Aachen and on May, 23rd 1912 it was first flown by Robert Gsell. Between August and November 1912 the Reissner Ente was presented at Berlin Johannisthal by Reissner and Gsell. In late 1912 the aircraft was returned to Aachen, where Lucien Hild crashed with the Ente on January, 27th 1913 due to stall and was killed.

It is not exactly known, if a second Ente was built after the Hild crash or if the remainings of the first Ente were rebuilt. Nevertheless the Reissner Ente was back into the air during 1913 in a modified outlook. Instead of the primary design, the new Ente now got a textile covering around the fuselage tubes and four tail units were mounted below the rear wing instead of the prior single horizontal stabilizer at the top of the aircraft.

During this time Junkers and Reissner seperated from each other. Junkers turned towards the questions of aerodynamical and constructional aspects of aircraft designs, which finally led to his first own aircraft, the Junkers J1 in 1915.

Josh Cawthra - August 16, 2005 12:40 AM (GMT)
Another pic..

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alvinonline - August 16, 2005 05:57 AM (GMT)
We Have a Winner!!

It is indeed a Reissner Ente/Cunard.

Congratulations Josh, you have won the "boopie" prize user posted imagefor winning the "Mystery Aircraft Twentyeight" contest.

Josh receives fifteen points added to his forum post count total and his member rank/status will reflect his win till we have another new contest winner.

ALANXP - August 16, 2005 07:25 AM (GMT)
Good job Josh. :yes:

Josh Cawthra - August 16, 2005 11:33 AM (GMT)
Thanks! Talk about :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: .. About to drive me to drink.. ;-)

Mike - August 16, 2005 04:09 PM (GMT)
I knew someone had to have died in that thing.




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