I know some are hoping for a stronger and smarter Whitney when she comes out of the convent, but I'm here to say that that won't happen. I wish I were wrong, but I've got to go with "the soap pattern."

Whitney will spend a few days in the convent, and then decide to go back with the perv to raise the baby.

When this happens, JER will suddenly spring Val on Whitney.. and Whitney/Val/the perv begins. Since divins has re-signed with the show, and Val has a contract with the show, I can see this lasting for quite some time. Val is here to stay, just like Liz.

*** In fact, now that Simone is lesbian and out of the story, I wouldn't put it past JER to somehow figure out a way to write Val/Whitney as sisters. Then he really won't have to ever write anything new for Brook. She'll be stuck working with the same "actors" for her duration on the show.

Nearly ALL of Whitney/Brook's scenes will be with the perv and Valerie.

Because JER isn't done with dumbing down and humiliating Whitney, he will have her fight with Val over the perv. And Whitney will NEVER blame the perv, just as she didn't show any emotion when the perv was having sex with Val on the couch.

I'm assuming that JER will leave them in the studio since he has written them in a way that they don't really deserve or aspire for much.

Look for Whitney to have scenes with the perv, Val, Teresa, her parents, and that's it.

If y'all thought these past few weeks were bad, then turn off your tv sets. The worst is yet to come. Complete depravity and isolation with the perv and Val.

Will Whitney come across the new guy Chris? Nope.
Will Whitney get a chance with Noah? Nope. Not unless Noah suddenly got a deep, dark tan.
Will Whitney get scenes with Fancy? Nope, that may remind folks of Foxney.
Will Whitney get scenes with Alistair? Nope, again the Foxney factor.
Will Whitney get scenes with Ivy? Nope, the Foxney factor.
Will Whitney come across ANY new guy, the way Sheridan does? Nope.
Will Whitney get a reprieve from the perv the way Sheridan got from Antonio? Nope. Who will represent, then?
I hear that Sam is supposed to be Whitney's godfather, yet I doubt we'll ever get a scene with them now.

JER has made it clear that as long as divns/dud is on the show, Brook/Whitney has to be paired with him. Period. No way around it.

Val is there to show how much Whitney loves the perv and will fight for him, even though she claims they can't be together. All of life will be moving forward in Harmony, but Whitney will have regressed more than ANY other character on the show.

PLEASE ENCOURAGE BROOK TO LEAVE!! Hiding in her dressingroom won't change anything. She MUST take the first step towards the door.

Why would JER think you'd watch something he's shown you before? Well, because they're black characters. And in his mind, anything is better than nothing. And as long as fans accept anything, they will get nothing. JER knows that he can do whateve he wants with the other couples, and nobody will complain, just as long as Whitney stays with the perv.. AWAY from any of "their" couples. THAT is what JER has done, and he knows it.

Some people claim that JER is some mad genius. If he is, then so are all of the other writers on the other shows. Why? Because what JER has done is no different from what other writers have done when it comes to AA characters. It's called the soap pattern.

Case in point: On ATWT, Margo (white) was getting close to some AA guy (don't remember his name). She was clearly attracted to him.. even having dumb fatasies about him. They had numerous scenes. The actress was talking about her excitement for her story in the mags. And while that was happening, the Jessica character (AA) was back in a good relationship with Ben (AA) after being raped by Marshall (AA). Jessica barely had any scenes with this AA guy that Margo was attracted to and planning to sleep with. Then poof! All of a sudden, recent rape victim, Jessica, has sex with nameless AA guy. Why? No reason. Did the writers try to claim that Jessica was attracted to this guy? Nope. They didn't have to. Him being AA like Jessica was good enough. End of story. Have I watched ATWT since? Nope. Why? Because it became clear that Jessica was sacrificed at the last minute. The writers still wanted SOMEONe to sleep with this guy, and decided that she was the most "appropriate" due to obvious reasons. I liked Jessica and Ben as a couple, but now abhor Jessica because what rape victim would sleep with a total stranger after having the love, respect, forgiveness of Ben (a handsome, moral, hard-working doctor)?

Whitney is no longer a part of humanity. Humane characters don't willingly, willfully, knowingly have sex with their siblings when there are other men in Harmony. That's not love. That's not temptation. That's just plain evil and nasty, and sets her apart from ALL of the other women in Harmony, which explains why she's stuck in the most vicious cycle of all.

RUN BROOK RUN!!
E.

You know what the sad part is, I'm totally with you. Whit/Brook is gonna be stuck in this nasty, disgusting, FF, story for a looong time and I have no intentions of watching.

** SIGH **

:good: :good: :good:

Is it official that Divins has re-signed with the show? Cause last I heard they were still in negotiations. If he re-signed I won't know or care what happens with Whitney because I wont be watching

Carol

i'll be watching it all.

Last I heard he's renegotiating but I don't think he's leaving. He obvously loves his jobs lots.

As far as Divins is concerned, WHO actually would give him a paycheck outside of NBC?

Good, but depressing posting, E.

And, I'm still on Val's side

I think he wants to stay but when he said Dud could become a monster and be killed off he may know more than he is letting on.

I think JER wants to keep the character around but he wants Divins out of the role so he may kill the character off and recast later.

The character has a purpose on the show and I firmly believe that he is not flushed out more because Divins can't act to save his life.

I don't see JER not being tempted to continue to Dud/Fox rivalry. I think in order for it become interesting they need to make Dud into a JR type and Divins just doesn't have the acting chops to pull it off period. I know people may say well Danica cant act either but she is getting drama. The difference is JER doesnt care about the Jessica s/l as much as he does about the Cranes and Russells. So he is likely to keep Danica on if she sucks and give her airtime but NOT do the same for Divins.

Carol

So y not just let him go? Y renegotiate?

Tell me about it.

THE most insulting thing about Divins being employed- outside of the obvious..

is that NBC is telling us..

That, in LOS ANGELES (not Idaho)....
Divins was THE most qualified UNEMPLOYED BLACK ACTOR who tried out for the job.

And that, is a Bold-faced LIE of the highest order.

Riky, don't you mean BALD-FACED lie? Got that from my Dudism 101 class.

Not to mention the show is pimping the hell out of him. He is not going anywhere.

They also could be renegotiating an extension and not a brand new contract. Maybe JER has a story he wants finish out.

I just dont see JER not wanting to continue this dud/fox rivalry. There is no character on the canvass like him so I dont see him going anywhere but Divins CANNOT pull off a character like that. Divins can't pull off an normal good character never mind a complex one. Fox is not a JR type bad guy so who will fill that role?

Yikes its downright impossible to have a ray of hope on this board. Can we try once in a while and find the bright side.

Carol

It is hard to be positive when the character of Whitney has been ruined so bad that she is checking herself into a convent so she won't give into her desire to bang her brother.

Carol it's hard right now. Esp now theyre wallowing in this incest crap. Whit went months not thinking of that ass, she downright ignored him and all of a sudden she doesnt trust herself around him? The constant rewrites are depressing and pissing me off.

I still don't understand why we cant try. It's like coming to a burial ground I just don't get it. Negativity never helps anything.

Anyway I think I need to take a break from these boards. I just dont see the purpose of these kinds of posts. They serve zero purpose and just ends up bringing everyone down.

As the saying goes when business is good you should advertise when business is bad you MUST advertise. Now is when we need to dig in and be positive for BK's sake at least

jmho
Carol

:good: :good: :good: E. You are 100% right. And Brook really needs to run from this travesty.

I'm with carol to some extent. I feel it's easier not to be totally down and out because I'm simply not watching right now. But I also trust Brook's judgement at the end of the day (wouldn't have helped start this board if I didn't believe in her).

I'm not saying E doesn't make a valid point here, I'm just trying not to lose all hope right now. I honestly don't know what's gonna happen anymore, and I'm tired of guessing either way. I'll just wait til it happens from now on.

I am positive for Brook. I am supporting HER, but you have to be honest about what's happening where Brook is concerned.

I think we can find something positive and a reason to be positive from BK's words. She says Chad is NOT an option. She didnt say unless we are not siblings Chad is not a option. She said he is NOT an option period. Maybe she is giving us a hint there. That this mess once its over will not result in Whitney and Chad being a couple. That there is a silver lining out there.

Carol

I'm with you Carol. I'll continue to stay positive.

I'm not totaly negative. I I'm positve about the future just not the current and NEAR future.

Carol, this is why i love you. i have been busy beyond belief lately, so i haven't totally been caught up with reading posts. but everytime i come here, hoping for some relief, here goes another post with a storm cloud hanging over it.

that's not why we created Exq, to have it turn into a archive for posts ab how pissed ppl are with the current s/l's. this board is here for brook thru thick and thin, and to some extent that includes whit also. it was understandable at the start of all this misery, but now it's just gone haywire. i'm not happy at all with what's going on on the show, but that's just it, i see it on the show. day after day of the misery in explicit detail is not needed.

this is not to say that i think ppl need to stop posting here, i'll just go ahead and put that out there right now before words get misconstrued. but, the negativity is eating away at me. some of it needs to be curbed. with the intensity it's gaining right now, i'm beginning to think that if BK ever DID come here, she'd be turned off. there is such a thing as a limit.

my faith in Whit and Brook does not waver! i know everyone else here feels the same way, and they also show it in diff ways. that's all well and fine, but clearly it's getting to be too much for some. let's try to see some light, and not all darkness.

I understand what you mean, but some of us simply don't see ANY light.

Brook has been shoved into the CRAPNEY GHETTO with the non-actor known as Divins.

Not only that, but we have the quack writing this show actually trying to shill that 'Incest is Tru Wuv'.

Then, we have to sit and watch as everything Foxney-related is being erased so that we are now being forcefed the pox known as Kox.

I want to see what is remotely positive about Brook Kerr being stuck in this absolutely hideous storyline, with that hideous non-actor attached at to her in nearly every scene. That she's being punished for the color of her skin and little else.

There IS nothing positive for Brook or Whitney at this moment.

I DO support Brook and Whitney. But, let's face some facts. She's been screwed over majorly, and I thought Exquisite was a place where we could be honest about that fact and WHY she was being screwed over.

But who knows when she said that. When she said that, she may not have even filmed the banging scenes with Dud yet. She most definately didn't film the scenes where she is going to a convent so she won't bang Dud again yet. Yeah, Brook said that Dud is not an option but we don't know what she meant by that. It is obvious that Brook personally doesn't believe that Dud is an option but with the show's costant pimping of Dud, the show thinks he is the only opition for Whitney.

And as long as Whitney is a black character, she will be stuck with dud.

Can't yall see, ALL of the black girls must be stuck on dud or lesbian?

THAT is message that NBC is selling.

NBC/Passions are telling me that Whitney is nothing but a depraved animal. They messed up in selling pervertney as "true love," because I haven't SEEN a darn thing in the last 3 years that tells me she loves him. What I see is LUST, and that's what's killing the character.

Whitney sleeping with dud PROVES that they are about nothing but lust.

***Because if not, why do they only talk about having sex? No other couple does that. Not even Shuis. And not even virginal Chargel.

So, how can ANYONE excuse JER showing Whitney sleeping with dud and keep quiet?

NO AMOUNT of NOTHING (love, dick, money, fame, etc.) is worth someone willfully sleeping with the person they believe to be their brother.

I'm not being negative. I'm being real.

I'm expressing the REALITY of Brook getting shafted because she is BLACK.

*** If she were white, I doubt very much that this incest story would be taking place because then NBC wouldn't have their quota couple. They chose Whitney BECAUSE SHE IS BLACK.

*** They exchanged Valerie for Paloma because they needed someone BLACK to go with their BLACK THEME OF MORAL DEPRAVITY AND SEXUAL PERVERSITY.

I am appalled that Whitney, a character I once adored, is now no morally acceptable than Alistair, Liz, or Spike. And NBC has made it so. I didn't put dud in the category because JER paints him as not knowing what he's doing is wrong. But the fact that Whitney is well aware of her actions and does it anyway makes HER WORSE.

THIS IS BAD FOR BROOK, because CLEARLY THAT is all she will ever be known for as long as she's on the show.

She will NOT get primetime gigs, because casting agents will laugh at the GARBAGE lines that will forever come out of her mouth in this never-ending story. What the heck will Brook submit? Nadda. Every single line out of her mouth will forever be demoralizing garbage.

It's no wonder divins can find a job and Brook is stuck only with Passions. While Whitney is going on about not being able to sleep with her brother, dud is just saying he loves her and acting like everything is cool. Hell, with the exception of Simone, the WHOLE Russell family is acting like everything is a-ok.

As for what Brook said, PUHLEASE, that was WAY before Whitney slept with dud.

Last year, she also said something about Whitney "looking out for dud as a sister" after everything got settled. I KNOW MORE than Brook about her story, at this point, because I said that they would screw before the end of the summer back in March.

How did I know that?

Because it's the soap pattern towards black women, and because a friend at NBC made it clear that JER "wasn't allowed to do TWO IR couples." She said, and I quote: "they were afraid of showing two of the richest white males in Harmony being after two black women.[...] And since more young people watch, they'll probably greenlight the older one. Less noise that way."

Sorry if I'm being negative, but I believe in speaking one's mind.

I believe in SPEAKING OUT when I see a blantant injustice.

I believe in calling a spade a spade.

If Brook sticks around for phase 5 of this story, she won't ever work in Hollywood again. It may sound dramatic, but that is a fact. Look at Maurice Bernard on GH. No one can see him outside the mobster role. Well, no one will be able to see Brook outside the role of dumb, suburban black chick who chose to screw her brother. Moreover, she certainly won't work with respectable black actors/directors.

I will not stick my head in the mud and say that this is all a dream, waiting for it to be over.

This ain't no dream. It's Brook's WORST NIGHTMARE.

What does one submit to casting directors when EVERY SINGLE scene is about wanting to screw a pervert?

I'm sorry, but I'd rather JER simply KILL WHITNEY OFF.

Clearly she is not as important as the black couple quota.

I am a Brook Kerr fan first and foremost, and it is in her BEST interest to RUN from this show. Everyone is getting new material, while she's being isolated and getting some twisted version of old material.

So everytime I post, I post with the prayer that Brook will find this site and see my pleas and warnings.

RUN GIRL RUN!!! BREAK YOUR CONTRACT!!! DON'T WAIT!!

E.

I want what is best for Brook. I will always support her. Right now she is etting the ax in her face. And I hate that and if she stays shes doomed to be stuck with Chad. With Divins or recasted who will probably suck too. Whats is best for Brook is to leave this travesty. Always a Brook anmd Whitney supporter. Right now and future aint looking up for her and her character.

That's just something to hold on to. That's the point its to find a bright side. When Tracy speaks we believe her. When Divins speak we believe him heck when the actress that plays Daphne speak we believe her but we can't believe Brook. I just dont dont get that sorry.

Carol

Well since we all agree on supporting Brook I'm imploring you all to write her and the people with the power, writers, producers and the head of NBC Daytime. We can't post about it and expect change.

I dont think it motivates people either it just brings them down and makes them believe there is nothing they can do. BK isn't going anywhere she chose to stay I at least respect her for that. We should be organizing to make things better for her based on that choice not simply saying run. Its too late to run she has to wait another few years.

Carol

I hear ya.