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Well, another Horseman retired.

At least its the third worst one, right?

Nah. He's pretty mid-range as far as Horsemen go. Kendall Windham, Paul Roma, Sid Vicious, Steve McMichael and Lex Luger were worse and Sting being one was pretty retarded at the time.

Anyways. Here's the rundown of Jeff Jarrett's title history.

# CWA (Memphis) International Tag Team titles w/Pat Tanaka defeating Akio Sato & Tarzan Goto (August 25, 1986);
# CWA (Memphis) International Tag Team titles w/Paul Diamond defeating Akio Sato & Tarzan Goto (November 3, 1986);
# AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Billy Travis defeating Jonathan Boyd & Bigfoot (November 17, 1986);
# AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Billy Travis defeating Mike Davis & Tommy Lane (January 11, 1987);
# AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Pat Tanaka defeating Mike Davis & Tommy Lane (February 3, 1987);
# AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Billy Travis defeating Pat Tanaka & Paul Diamond (July 11, 1987);
# NWA Mid-America title defeating Moondog Spot (May 11, 1987);
# NWA Mid-America title defeating Moondog Spot (June 1, 1987);
# NWA Mid-America title defeating Moondog Spot (June 22, 1987);
# NWA Mid-America title defeating Carl Fergie (September 14, 1987);
# NWA Mid-America title defeating Jimmy Jack Funk (November 9, 1987);
# WCWA World Light-Heavyweight title defeating Eric Embry (October 15, 1988);
# WCWA World Light-Heavyweight title defeating Eric Embry (November 24, 1988);
# CWA (Memphis) Heavyweight title defeating Dutch Mantell (March 11, 1989);
# WCWA Tag Team titles w/Kerry Von Erich defeating Robert Fuller & Jimmy Golden (March 12, 1989);
# WCWA Tag Team titles w/Mil Mascaras defeating Super Zodiac II & Cactus Jack Manson (June 9, 1989);
# WCWA Tag Team titles w/Matt Borne defeating Robert Fuller & Brian Lee (June 30, 1989);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Matt Borne defeating Scott Braddock & Cactus Jack (August 11, 1989);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Matt Borne defeating Sheik Braddock & Ron Starr (September 29, 1989);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Jeff Gaylord defeating Brian Lee & Chuck Casey (September 3, 1990);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Jeff Gaylord defeating Brian Lee & Don Harris (September 17, 1990);
# USWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Dick Slater (October 6, 1990);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Cody Michaels defeating Tony Anthony & Doug Gilbert (November 24, 1990);
# USWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Brian Lee in a Tournament Final (January 14, 1991);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Jerry Lawler defeating Steve Keirn & Stan Lane (February 4, 1991);
# USWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Stunning Steve Austin (March 1991);
# USWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Tom Prichard (April 5, 1991);
# USWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Tom Prichard (April 12, 1991);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Robert Fuller defeating The Texas Hangmen (May 13, 1991);
# USWA Western States Tag Team titles w/Robert Fuller defeating Samu & Judge Dredd (June 24, 1991);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Robert Fuller defeating Jeff Sword & Doug Vines (July 15, 1991);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Robert Fuller defeating The Texas Outlaws [Vines & Sword] (October 7, 1991);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Jerry Lawler defeating The Moondogs [Spot & Spike] (June 29, 1992);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Jerry Lawler defeating The Moondogs [Spot & Cujo] (July 20, 1992);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Jerry Lawler defeating The Moondogs [Spot & Cujo] (August 17, 1992);
# USWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Brian Christopher (December 21, 1992);
# USWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Brian Christopher (March 1, 1993);
# USWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Brian Christopher (June 28, 1993);
# USWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Vampire Warrior (August 23, 1993);
# USWA Heavyweight title defeating "Wildfire" Tommy Rich (October 4, 1993);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Brian Christopher defeating Jerry Lawler & Red Knight (October 25, 1993);
# USWA World Tag Team titles w/Brian Christopher defeating Koko B. Ware & Rex Hargrove (November 8, 1993);
# USWA Unified World title defeating Jerry Lawler at the end of a Battle Royal (November 22, 1993);
# WWF Intercontinental title defeating Razor Ramon (January 22, 1995);
# WWF Intercontinental title defeating Bob Holly (April 26, 1995);
# WWF Intercontinental title defeating Razor Ramon (May 21, 1995);
# USWA Unified World title defeating Ahmed Johnson [Stripped on 3/2 due to back injury] (December 20, 1996);
# USWA Unified World title defeating Jerry "The King" Lawler (April 20, 1997);
# PCW (Pennsylvania) United States title defeating ???????? ();
# WCW United States Heavyweight title defeating Dean Malenko (June 9, 1997);
# NWA North American title defeating Barry Windham (December 30, 1997);
# WWF World Tag Team titles w/Owen Hart defeating Ken Shamrock & The Big Bossman (January 25, 1999);
# WWF Intercontinental title defeating The Godfather (May 25, 1999);
# WWF Intercontinental title defeating Edge (July 25, 1999);
# WWF Intercontinental title defeating D-Lo Brown (August 22, 1999);
# WWF European title defeating D-Lo Brown (August 22, 1999);
# WCW United States Heavyweight title defeating Chris Benoit (December 20, 1999);
# WCW World Heavyweight title defeating Diamond Dallas Page (April 16, 2000);
# WCW World Heavyweight title defeating David Arquette and DDP in a Triple Cage (May 7, 2000);
# WCW World Heavyweight title defeating Kevin Nash (May 22, 2000);
# WCW World Heavyweight title defeating Ric Flair (May 29, 2000);
# WWA (World Wrestling All-Stars) World Heavyweight title defeating Road Dog in a Steel Cage (October 26, 2001);
# NWA World Heavyweight title defeating Ron "The Truth" Killings (November 20, 2002);
# WWA (World Wrestling All-Stars) World Heavyweight title defeating Sting [unified with NWA World title] (May 25, 2003);
# NWA World Heavyweight title defeating "The Phenomenal" A.J. Styles (October 22, 2003);
# NWA World Heavyweight title defeating Ron "The Truth" Killings (June 2, 2004);
# NWA Cyberspace title defeating Slyck Wagner Brown (April 30, 2005);
# NWA World Heavyweight title defeating Raven (September 15, 2005);
# (Australia) World Series Wrestling Heavyweight title defeating Rhino (October 8, 2005);
# NWA World Heavyweight title defeating Rhino (November 3, 2005);
# NWA World Heavyweight title by winning a King of the Mountain match (June 18, 2006);

That's a cool list.

What's your point?

Guy's retiring and had a super long career. Might as well throw his accomplishments out there since Jarrett was known for winning a lot of belts.

True enough.

Boy, I was kinda foolish for asking, huh?

It's ok. It was kind of random anyways.

Yeah, well I still appreciate the 4/1 1 as it were.

Ah yes, silly me I totally forgot the date.

April Fools, dude...

I totally had you too.

I purposefully picked a Wrestler who was 41, or in this case going to be 41. I was kinda hoping you'd notice the 4/1 connection.

Yeah, I wasn't thinking it was past midnight and he pretty much has been semi-retired for almost a year anyways.

I gave Jarrett a lot of crap over the past few years, but looking back he did have a solid career, and even his TNA tenure doesn't seem so bad compared to a lot of the stuff going on these days.

I am surprised that Jarrett didn't choose to make one last run in the ring before letting go. It won't garner much attention after Ric Flair retired at Wrestlemania.

I think he was planning to have a final run but his wife dying either made him just stop or decide to put it on hold.

There were all sorts of rumors about Jeff returning to the ring before and during his wife's illness and then after her death. I think he felt that he should spend more time with his children and the last I heard, he and his father are still on the outs which I am sure does not help home situation any.

Old thread but give me some credit for the new guy.

I wouldn't mind Jarrett coming in to job to Samoa Joe at Slammiversary/BFG this year. It would give Je that final rub he needs to wipe the stigma of being "mid card for life"

He runs through Steiner at Sacrfice
He dodges 5 top challengers at Slammiversary (if they do KoTM.)
He fends off another single match (Cage or Tomko possibly 3 way)
He fights a foreiner import at Victory Road (Kobashi. They had a good match re-create it on a bigger stage as well as bring back the world X Cup)
He beats Kurt again at Hard Justice
He beats Jarrett or Sting at No Surrender
He beats the other at BFG.

Look at how many champs he takes down. Im not saying make him the monster champ, but TNA has been a heel dominated company. Faces get 1 month title reign "for the fans" Joe needs to have a RUN to wipe the stench of mid card off and say "Hey this company is different. I'm fat, but I am the best wrestler in the world."

I segued that into a Joe topc, but my point is that Jarrett should come back to put Joe over HUGE. Say he wants one more shot at the title, do it at BFG or Slammiversary Joe gets put over the prennial heel of the company and fades into the sunset.

With Jarrett now being retired from wrestling, does this mean the end for all the rampant politics in TNA, or is Kurt Angle the new resident rampant politician?

Basically. Except that Angle claims to be looking for opportunities to put people over (Lethal, Joe, but how effective both cases were are up for argument).

You know, it's funny because I'd actually be curious to see JJ wrestling there now. Since he wouldn't be able to pull the power play as much on guys I think it would have been interesting.

Yeah, that's a good point. He wouldn't be able to pull any tricks on Angle or Booker, maybe not even on the guys who have been consistently elevated since Jarrett's departure (Joe, Christian, Tomko, etc).

He could pull all the tricks he wants.

I doubt that's in his best intentions cuz he is probably making the most money, besides Angle, and Sting.

He wants the company to grow. I can be a little apologetic for him during the early years cuz he knew that he would never leave the company, regardless if he thought he was over or not. He needed a talent that would never bail.

Hence Multiple champ Jeff Jarrett

Although I can see where you're coming from, that would obviously only be true when him and his pops was running the company. Once Panda Energy stepped in, he was only in a booking position because the Jarrett's were there to handle the wrestling end of things. But there was a point where he was getting pushed and wasn't really booking, although his buddy Russo was.

Honestly, I never had an issue with him as champion except for when he cut others off at the legs to keep his reigns going.

But who should of been world champ for longer?

The only one should of been Raven. I can amke no argument about Raven, he got cut out. The other champs in the early years were shock title switches and the like.

Rhino- surprize cuz Kevin Nash faked a heart attack.
The 2 Cage titles were good for what they were but I thought they were too early.
The AJ Styles title reigns were jokes and nobody believed in him.
Ron Killings, the second title reign was bad. The first one was good.

Samoa Joe should of had the title in 06 IMO, but we can talk that all night. In retrospect I think Jarrett did the right thing. He kept the company afloat with him hogging, and when he got the talent and the talent was staying, he let go.

While it was happeneing I called him the TNA HHH and all that but now Im a little softer and I see the hows and whys of the matter.

Quick question I kinda stopped watching TNA (well, the WWE, too I suppose) for awhile, and in that time Jarrett must have announced his retirement. When exactly did he wrestle last? I remember hearing about his wife passing, but I don't recall his last match prior to all that or anything.

As for the Joe/Jarret angle: I like it Fuj, I like it a lot.

I think he was at Lethal Lockdown 07. Before that BFG 06

Although Rhino's title reign could be considered a fluke, I think there was a possibility that he could have held it for a while. The fans seemed to be behind the idea at the time.

Rhino should have held the belt longer. The fans were behind it, and he won it on the first Bound for Glory, which is supposed to be TNA's version of Wrestlemania. Instead, it's kicked off a trend where all three Bound For Glory main events were made unimportant (Rhino jobbed the belt back right away in 2005, and Sting quickly lost the belt in 2006 and 2007).

I don't care what anyone says, I liked AJ Styles as the champion in 2003 and I believed in him. This was also before I discovered "smark" message boards, so I missed the memo that I wasn't supposed to enjoy it. :ph43r:

While I can't take away your excitement, the title reign didnt set the world on fire. Thats what Im getting at.

Honestly, Monty Brown should have won the title. He was someone that actually needed it. I totally agree with Raven/Rhino too and I don't even like Rhino.

Jarrett wasn't setting his dick on fire, rather than the world. People were actually starting to get pissed at the guy and his insistance on being champion soured a lot of guys on the company.

It didn't hurt things either. That, and I associate it with a good era of TNA programming, right before Jarrett regained the belt and Dutch Mantell started booking (I specifically remember a HUGE smark backlash to TNA during that time).

Brown should have won the belt in early 2005.

I'm confused. Is Jarrett actually retiring? Or is this actually an April Fools Joke?

No, he's most likely retiring. His wife passed away last year from Cancer and he's pretty much been MIA since.

Well I knew that. I was just thrown off by the April Fools reference earlier in the thread.

That video they did in memory of his wife at Slammiversary was the last time he's really been mentioned on air. So we'll see what happens. I'm guessing you won't see him in the ring again.

I happened to really like that video package. It was genuine and it seemed to strike a chord with the fans in attendance. And seeing as that was almost a year ago, it does seem like Jarrett has been done for a while and it's just now becoming clear that it's official.

Jeff is in the opening video of iMPACT every week.

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Jarrett retain an interest in the company? I thought he only sold a percentage to Carter's daddy, although I'm sure it would have been a majority of the company.