- I posted this on another forum, and decided to post it here just for the hell of it.

This list will be twenty strong. Twenty of the biggest, baddest, toughest, roughest, and downright nastiest bad-ass bastards you're ever likely to meet. The only criteria is that they must be a bad-ass. The good, the bad, and the ugly are all considered fair game. Good guys can be badasses too.



20. The Nemesis- Resident Evil: Apocalypse

Who He Is: The pug ugly son of a gun that tried to kill Alice, Jill, their allies in Resident Evil: Apocalypse. He's big, ugly, and has an awesome coat with a matching mini-gun and rocket launcher to boot. In the end he ultimately turned back to the good side. But that's cool. When you're as ass ugly as this guy, you still seem pretty bad-ass either way.

Why He's A Badass:Well, for starters he has a chaingun larger than most people's houses. It looks like something off of your average fighter-plane. He banged Milla Jovovich when still in human form and then tried to kill her in monster form. He wiped out a well-armed squad of police officers. He shot down a helicopter and then took the wreckage in the face as it crashed- without moving. Any questions?



19. The Punisher (aka Frank Castle)- The Punisher (2004)

Who He Is: The former Gulf War veteran turned avenging anti-hero. The Punisher was forced into existence when a mob hit kills Frank Castle's entire happy family. Donning a leather trench coat, a penchant for bad one-liners, a skull emblazoned t-shirt, and an arsenal of weapons larger than most world armies, Frank sets out to make things right one thug at a time.

Why He's A Badass:- There's a variety of important things to consider with The Punisher; but the most important would be, and this is very important; is that he's only human. He's representative of every oppressed, depressed, or repressed sap out there whose ever had something bad happen to them. The only special thing about him, the only thing that sets him apart from the normal people of the world, is that he's willing to act on his anger and thirst for vengeance. He's everything that we'd somehow like to be, and then some.

And he carried Kevin Nash to a good match.



18. Robocop- Robocop, Robocop 2, Robocop 3, Robocop: Prime Directives

Who He Is: A once proud cop gunned down in the line of duty, turned into a nearly indestructable law-enforcing robot-cop, hence the name "Robocop". He can shoot with near perfect accuracy, fly, and see through stuff with his X-ray vision.

Why He's A Badass:Well, he's nearly invincible; that's a good start. Most small and medium level ordinances bounce right off of him. He survived being set on fire, with only a bit of singed metal to show for it. The topper would have to the time he shot a potential rapist in the balls between a woman's legs, when she was wearing a long dress and he was standing behind her.



17. Judge Dredd- Judge Dredd

Who He Is: Like his fellow law enforcer, #18's Robocop Judge Dredd is another badass law enforcer. Tasked with ridding Mega-City One of a growing crime problem Dredd has been assigned the role of "street judge" a law enforcer who is literally judge, jury, and executioner all rolled into one.

Why He's A Badass: Picture a cop; picture that cop giving you a traffic ticket. Now picture that cop with the complete legal right to shoot you square in the forehead when you complain about said ticket. Get it? Plus when he takes his helmet off you're face to face with John Rambo.



16. El Mariachi- Desperado, Once Upon A Time In Mexico

Who He Is:The proported "biggest Mexican you've ever seen". El is a cool, calculating, and introspective gunfighter and vigilante whose only goal in life is to wipe out the scum and villany that infests his home country of Mexico, with his guitar case full of guns starting with the man that killed his girlfriend.

Why He's A Badass: Picture The Punisher, but with a conscience. You've pretty much got why El is such a badass. He's not some cold, unthinking killing machine. He's a driven person, but he always thinks about what he's done, even going to confession after one particular rampage. Even so, he still beleives what he's doing is right- even if God doesn't. He also banged Selma Hayek.



15. Seth Gecko- From Dusk 'Till Dawn

Who He Is: Bank robber and villain, Seth Gecko along with his fellow criminal and brother cleaned out a multitude of Texas banks. He would become a hostage taker when he and his brother captured an unfortunate vacationing family. He and this family would soon fall victim to a vampire attack at a Mexican bar, causing Seth to go from criminal to protector.

Why He's A Badass:Because, to put it quite simply, he doesn't care. He uses an innocent family to get himself and his brother to Mexico without getting caught by the law. He knocks his own brother unconscious and then blames it on a wound he'd incurred earlier. And, we can't forget his awesome tattoo.

- That's enough for now. We'll hit 14-1 tommorrow.

Very cool idea, even if El Mariachi is a little high...

Dolph Lundgren laughs at your #19

Yeah, well, I was going to probably rank him too.

As He-Man or Ivan Drago?!

And I'll be MEAN if William Munny or Chris Adams aren't listed.

Alright, I think its about time I got back to this.

Just to recap for those of you not paying attention. Listed so far:

20. The Nemesis (Resident Evil: Apocalypse)
19. The Punisher (The Puniser (2004))
18. Robocop (Robocop, Robocop 2, Robocop 3, Robocop: Prime Directives)
17. Judge Dredd (Judge Dredd)
16. El Mariachi (Desperado, Once Upon A Time In Mexico)
15. Seth Gecko (From Dusk Till Dawn)

Jumping back in at 14 its......



14. Casey Jones- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3: Turtles In Time, and TMNT (2007) (Animated)

Who He Is: The Ninja Turtles' friend, and fellow vigilante Casey Jones. He cleans up crime with an assortment of sports equipment. He's also prone to mistaking being claustrophobic for being homosexual.

Why He's A Badass: Anyone who's willing to take nothing but a hockey stick or a five iron into a battle with sword wielding ninjas is pretty badass in my book.



13. James Bond- (Deep Breath)- Dr. No, From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Diamonds Are Forever, Live And Let Die, The Man With The Golden Gun, The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, A View To Kill, The Living Daylights, License To Kill, Goldeneye, Tommorrow Never Dies, The World Is Not Enough, Die Another Day, Casino Royale

Who He Is: In Any incarnation Bond is, and will always be, the British Secret Agency MI6's best and brightest Double 0 operative. Equal parts charming, cunning, and sadistic Bond never fails to get the job done.

Why He's A Badass: In over 21 movies Bond's never lost a fight, failed to get his man, or failed to bang every chick he comes across while all the while being the consumate proffessional he is.



12. Freddy Kruger- Nightmare On Elm Street series, Wes Craven's New Nightmare, Freddy vs. Jason

Who He Is: The famed "bastard son of a thousand maniacs". Once a human child killer (and implied child molester) Krueger was burned alive by an angry mob. His spirit now haunts the dreams of children as the red and green clad effigy of humanity, the immoral and immortal dream demon, "Freddy" Krueger. Despite his evil ways Freddy has a real sense of humor, albeit a dark one, as well as the power to manipulate perceived reality and change form at will.

Why He's A Badass: Any schmuck with a knife can kill you in real life (Jason, I'm looking at you,) but only one supremely powerful being can do it in your dreams. He's also one of very few mortal beings to go one-on-one with Jason and, not only survive, but dominate.

Time to let my geek light shine.

There's no way Freddy is a bigger baddie than Jason. Although I'm assuming that you aren't putting Jason ahead of him from reading the Freddy bio. He far from dominated Jason as well. Freddy dominates the dream world, Jason dominates the real one to be exact.

So in other words, Jason would fuck dude up real bad.

Yeah, well, call it personal bias, but I like Freddy more than Jason. I might still rank Jason, but I'm not sure.

We're in the home stretch. Its 11-6 now.

To recap:

20. The Nemesis (Resident Evil: Apocalypse)
19. The Punisher (The Puniser (2004))
18. Robocop (Robocp, Robocop 2, Robocop 3, Robocop: Prime Directives)
17. Judge Dredd (Judge Dredd)
16. El Mariachi (Desperado, Once Upon A Time In Mexico)
15. Seth Gecko (From Dusk Till Dawn)
14. Casey Jones (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3: Turtles In Time, and TMNT (2007) (Animated)\
13. James Bond (Dr. No, From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Diamonds Are Forever, Live And Let Die, The Man With The Golden Gun, The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, A View To Kill, The Living Daylights, License To Kill, Goldeneye, Tommorrow Never Dies, The World Is Not Enough, Die Another Day, Casino Royale)
12. Freddy Krueger (Nightmare On Elm Street series, Wes Craven's New Nightmare, Freddy vs. Jason)



11. Blade- Blade, Blade 2, Blade: Trinity

Who He Is: The half-human, half-vampire, vampire hunter. Born as an unnatural half-breed due to a vampire's attack on his mother when he was still in utero, Blade is an anti-hero vampire hunter, with all of the vampire's strengths and none of thier weaknesses. Misunderstood by humans, and hated by vampires, Blade fights a secret war against the undead with the aid of only a few select individuals and a thirst for vengeance against the creatures that ruined his life. In an effort to maintain some semblance of humanity Blade forgoes the taking of fresh blood, for a blood substitute serum, whose effectiveness is slowly wearing off. There's worse things out there tonight than vampires; him.

Why He's A Badass: For starters, Blade is a half-human, half-vampire, with an arsenal of weapons rivaling that of many armies. He's a lone wolf, a one-man army. And, he's not weak to sunlight, crosses, holy water, silver, garlic, or anything else a vampire would normally be affected by. He's got all of their powers, and none of their weaknesses. Aside from that, Blade is the consumate "cool guy". He's stoic in the face of danger, and has a sharp dry wit to match.



10. Agent Smith- The Matrix, The Matrix: Reloaded, The Matrix: Revolutions

What It Is: The self-replicating agent of the machines tasked with the destruction of the fabled "One". It is one of the oldest, most powerful, and most intelligent programs still running. To date it is the only Agent to ever give Neo a real run for his money.

Why He's A Badass: Being nearly invincible helps. Despite never winning a fight against Neo, Smith has never actually lost. The closest either ever came to a true decision in a fight was when both individuals actually wound up killing each other. In these fights Smith proved to be nearly invincible, surviving getting hit by a subway train, as well as avoiding a multitude of bullets in a fashion very similar to Neo.



9. Darth Maul- Star Wars: Episode 1- The Phantom Menace

Who He Is: The highlight of Star Wars: Episode 1. Maul is a visually pleasing assasin brought in by the nefarious Darth Sidious to kill Queen Amidala. Not much is known about Maul, except that he is one of the last remaining Sith.

Why He's A Badass: Just look at him. Aside from that, Maul is the only lightsaber weilding character, Jedi, Sith, or otherwise to use the awesome double-ended saber. In Star Wars lore, the double-ended saber is considered one of the most powerful, dangerous, and difficult to use of all the weapons employed by the Jedi or Sith. Its double-blade makes it an offensive minded weapon, leading to it being used almost exclusively by the Sith. Maul also has one of, if not the best, deaths in Star Wars.



8. The Terminator- The Terminator, T2: Judgment Day, Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines

Who He Is: The unthinking, unfeeling, uncaring, and nearly unkillable-cyborg assasin from the future, sent to the present time to kill Sara Connor- the woman who will one day prevent the Terminator and his machine counterparts from ruling the world. In subsequent events the Terminator would become an instrument of good in the fight against the growing Cyberdyne empire and would eventually sacrifice himself for the side of good in order to help them defeat their enemies.

Why He's A Badass: Well, he's impervious to bullets, explosions, physical attacks, and most other ordinances. He defeated a technologically superior foe, the liquid metal T 2000, despite being inferior to it in combat, performance, and weaponry. He repeated that victory over the female "Terminatrix, despite being outclassed by a span of almost 10 years. Oh, and he has one of the most memorable catchphrases in movie history: "I'll be back...."

And so will this thread. With 7-1 tommorrow. Be patient, we're on the home stretch.

Darth Maul had the potential to be the biggest bad-ass of all time, instead of the bullshit amount of screen time he was afforded.

I still shake my fist in anger when I think about how disappointed I was after I first saw Episode 1. It was the end of 8th grade and my innocence was gone.

Bah! At least you didn't wait 16 FRICKIN' YEARS for that pile of dung!!!

Good point. I don't think I even saw the original Star Wars trilogy until I was 8, so that would have been around 1992. Still, the wait from 1992 to 1999 felt like an eternity at the time.

I did wait half my life (at the time) for the X-Men movie. And while there was nothing actively bad in that flick, it was still a disappointment from what I had expected (though the film was made better by seeing the cut out footage, as well as X2 building off of it and salvaging the series).

Call me crazy, but I thought X-Men was a pretty boring movie. Too much origin stuff and not enough mutant on mutant action.

The final act of X-men was a little goofy...a plot to turn everyone at a Statue of Liberty cocktail party in mutants (or were they just trying to kill them? I don't remember).

Plus all the stuff with Wolvie and Rogue didn't work for me. I was never a fan of the stupid Wolvie-Jubillee team in the comics, anyways.

I guess I learned with "My Little Pony: the Movie" that you never base your hopes and dreams on a franchise by hoping it'll be "validated" and turned into a movie. "Oh wow, I can't wait for the movie!! Someday!!" That's never a good frame of mind.

They were trying to turn them into mutants. But that would ultimately kill them, anyway.

I enjoyed the Wolverine/Rogue relationship. Mostly because it was the only real, valid relationship in the film. That doesn't mean it was great, though.

And the "My Little Pony Movie" was awesome.

We're on the home stretch. A quick little emergency last night kept me from finishing up as early as I'd have liked. But now I'm here, and for those of you that've been waiting, your wait is almost over.



7. Paul Kersey- Death Wish, Death Wish 2, Death Wish 3, Death Wish 4: The Crackdown, Death Wish 5: The Face Of Death

Who He Is: A quiet and happy family man, with a well paying architect job, a loving wife, and a just-married daughter who's rousted out of his heaven when a group of thugs rob his home, rape his daughter and murder his wife. Kersey, enraged over his loss becomes an avenging angel, taking the law into his own hands in an effort to eliminate the scum and villany that populate the New York City streets- and ultimately come face to face with the man that ruined his life.

Why He's A Badass: Because, even more so than #19 (The Punisher) Kersey is an average citizen. He's not a war hero, a soldier, a warrior or anything like that. He's just an average citizen with a big gun, who takes matters into his own hands when the authorities can't, or won't, help him. He's everything we'd like to be in our lives; tough, strong-willed, authoritative, and just crazy enough to try to make a difference.



6. Snake Plissken- Escape From New York, Escape From L.A.

Who He Is: Equal parts convict, prisoner, and government secret-agent Snake is tasked with the unenviable mission of rescuing the President from the prison-fortress that was once New York City. Called the "deadliest man alive" Snake consistently lives up to his reputation, helping to save the president. Subsequently, Snake would be forced back into Government service, this time to retrieve a potential doomsday device from the island-state of Los Angeles. He suceeded.

Why He's A Badass: You don't get a nickname like "the deadliest man alive" for nothing, and Snake's never failed to live up to it. In his efforts Snake has, in turn, broken in to a super-max prison, and invaded an island of criminally insane lunatics by himself all for a government that would be just as happy to see him dead. He also helped inspire of the coolest videogame characters of all time, from the smoking habit down to the eyepatch.



5. "Stripe"- Gremlins, Gremlins 2: The New Batch

What It Is: The unhappy after-affect of letting your Mogwai get wet, or feeding it after midnight. "Stripe" is a mischevious little creature, bent on creating wide spread mayhem and problems for everyone who gets in his way.

Why He's A Badass: Anything that can look like that, after looking like a Furbie minutes prior is pretty badass in my book.



4. The Bride (aka Beatrix Kiddo)- Kill Bill Volume 1, Kill Bill Volume 2

Who She Is: The ultimate jilted bride. The Bride is an ex-assassin for the "Deadly Viper Assassination Squad", who wanted nothing more than to escape her life as a killer when she discovered she was pregnant. That was until her boss, Bill, put a bullet in her head on her wedding day. Now, after a long coma, The Bride's mind has been changed from escape to pure revenge. She's going to kill Bill, and anyone else who gets in her way.

Why She's A Badass: Well for starters, she, only through sheer force of will, forced herself out've a coma- after taking a bullet in the brain. She took on a veritable army of ninjas, and capped it off with a snowbound duel with Japan's most deadly assassin, O' Ren Ishii- and won. She survived being buried alive by punching her way out of the coffin. And she has an awesome yellow track suit.



3. Mr. Blonde- Reservoir Dogs

Who He Is: The craziest crook in a consortium of criminals whose task is to knock over a jewelry store to steal a shipment of rare diamonds. Equal parts suave, quick witted and sadistic, Blonde is a danger to not only the people in his way, but innocents, his fellow criminals, and at times himself.

Why He's A Badass: The infamous "Stuck In The Middle (With You)" scene where Blonde ties down a cop and hackss his ear off with a straight razor, while taunting him and singing along with the radio.



2. John Shaft- Shaft, Shaft's Big Score, Shaft In Africa, Shaft (2000)

Who He Is: The ultimate example of blaxploitation in American cinema. Shaft was equal parts tough street cop and jive talkin' pimp daddy. When he wasn't busting criminals in places including New York and Africa (yes, Africa) it was always his duty to please that booty. The early 2000's would also see a reinvention of Shaft, cutting the afro and giving him a bit more of an edge, bringing the coolest motherfucker in town into the mainstream once again.

Why He's A Bad-Mother- Shut Yo Mouth: Because he's Shaft. In any incarnation Shaft never failed to get his man or please his woman. And when you're a real badass, that's all that matters.



1. Dirty Harry- Dirty Harry, Magnum Force, Sudden Impact, The Dead Pool

Who He Is: The complete opposite of number two. Harry is a serious cop in a serious town who deals with some serious shit. With little regard for authority, and no regard for the life of your average criminal Harry deals with murder, rape, gang violence, and terrorist plots concoted by former Vietnam veterans (??) in the same way; shoot first and ask questions never.

Why He's A Badass: "I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?"

'Nuff said.

'Nuff said indeed. I'll be expecting angry mobs with flaming torches and pitchforks later. But for now, enjoy the list.

No Dolemite? He outscored Shaft on pleasing the booty. Plus he rhymed.

...and STRIPE?! Stripe's a good lower midcard talent, but I don't think you'd want him in amongst your main eventevers. I guess it's a good thing that there wasn't a big villain in "Winnie the Pooh and Eeyore too", as he would've been included.

Yeah, yeah...but this is TEMPEST's list, so all's fair.

My case for Chris Adams ("Magnificent Seven") stems from the following quote: "Places you're tied down to - none. People with a hold on you - none. Men you step aside for - none. " He's a bald-headed dude who wears black. Sort of the original "Stone Cold".

Yeah, funny thing is, I just saw Gremlins the nigh before last for the first time in years. I figured I'd throw Stripe in for a little laugh.

I'd be interested to see your list, E.

Good list. I say we need more of these.

I'm open to any suggestions.

I thought about Tempest's suggestion of making my own. But I'm mulling over that or Top 20 Most Bangable Sci-Fi Movie Broads. Very chauvanistic and juvenile (it'd fit right at home on Cage's board), but I'm considering it.

Other lists might be: best villains, best second bananas or best animal. Take a look at the Onion's AV club for some old oddball lists. Like "5 Evil Movie Computers" or "5 Directors you didn't know you hated"

Awesome......

I will.

I hate to bump this topic up but you are incorrect sir. Matt "Nemesis" Addison never banged Alice. Tried to kill her under the orders of Umbrella but he never banged her. In the first movie, they showed that they were gaining feelings for each other but they never did the nasty.

The person who had sex with Alice was Spence Parks who got owned by the Licker.

Like I said though, sorry for bumping this topic.

No its cool. Any publicity is good publicity.

Yeah.... I'm not incredibly up on my Resident Evil trivia. So I'll take your word for it.