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Big F'N Swigg - August 16, 2007 03:04 PM (GMT)
It's September 9, and no one seems to care!

TNA World Heavyweight Title
Kurt Angle © vs. Abyss

TNA X Division Title
Kurt Angle © vs. "Black Machismo" Jay Lethal

TNA Tag Team Titles
Kurt Angle © & Partner vs. Adam "PacMan" Jones & Ron "The Truth" Killings

I just love how PacMan gets a Tag Title shot without EVER having wrestled

SamoaRowe - August 16, 2007 03:21 PM (GMT)
Jay Lethal had better get that X belt back.

Tempest - August 16, 2007 04:18 PM (GMT)
My God I'm going to be so sick of seeing Kurt work after this show.

They couldn't put Lethal/Angle on the go-home show? Having Samoa Joe or Pacman/Killings interfere and cost Angle the title would be a good way to build their respective matches.

SamoaRowe - August 16, 2007 04:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tempest @ Aug 16 2007, 10:18 AM)
My God I'm going to be so sick of seeing Kurt work after this show.

They couldn't put Lethal/Angle on the go-home show? Having Samoa Joe or Pacman/Killings interfere and cost Angle the title would be a good way to build their respective matches.

No, because that would be logical and might actually make people interested in the pay-per-view.

Big F'N Swigg - August 16, 2007 04:47 PM (GMT)
I fear that Brock will interfere and cost Angle the TNA title, and then they'll feud over the "IWGP" title.

Tempest - August 16, 2007 07:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Big F'N Swigg @ Aug 16 2007, 10:47 AM)
I fear that Brock will interfere and cost Angle the TNA title, and then they'll feud over the "IWGP" title.

I could live with a Brock/Joe feud. And face Brock agains a heel Scott Steiner.

Angle/Brock could deliver, but it's so four years ago.

SamoaRowe - September 10, 2007 12:34 AM (GMT)
I just read at TSM that Pacman Jones pinned Sting this evening. Amazing, isn't it?


prof_plague - September 10, 2007 02:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
Official Results From The No Surrender Pay-Per-View PPV Results 

September 9th, 2007 20:05
OFFICIAL RESULTS FROM SUNDAY’S NO SURRENDER PPV
By Bill Banks

Note: You will need to “refresh” this page throughout the Pay-Per-View for the updated results.

QUICK RESULTS:
- Team Pacman def. Kurt Angle & Sting to win the TNA World Tag Team Title
- Rhino def. “Cowboy” James Storm
- Robert Roode def. Kaz
- “Black Machismo” Jay Lethal def. Kurt Angle to win the X Championship
- “Wildcat” Chris Harris def. Black Reign
- AJ Styles and Tomko won the Tag Team Gauntlet to become the number-one contenders to the TNA World Tag Team Title
- Christian Cage def Samoa Joe by disqualification

The No Surrender Pay-Per-View kicked off with the TNA World Tag Team Title Match with Kurt Angle and Sting vs. Ron “The Truth” Killings and Adam “Pacman” Jones. Killings started off against Sting - but when Killings went to tag out after a flurry of offense from Sting, Pacman refused to tag in! Killings continued against Kurt Angle, but once again Pacman opted not to tag in when offered. Karen Angle came down, but refused to leave when Sting told her to. Karen slapped Sting, and when he pointed for her to leave again she went down as if she was hit! Angle went outside to investigate and Karen told him that Sting had slapped her! Back in the ring, Pacman finally tagged in to face Sting – but Kurt jumped in and hit the Angle Slam on Sting! Pacman Jones covered Sting for the win as The Truth and Pacman Jones are the new TNA World Tag Team Champions!

Up next, it’s Rhino vs. James Storm…Prior to the match, JB interviewed Rhino – who said he may be an alcoholic, but he’s sober and ready to annihilate Storm. The bout started with a brawl on the outside, as Storm tried to hide in the crowd. The two TNA stars battled through the fans, as referee Andrew Thomas opted to let them go at it instead of counting them out. Rhino and Storm eventually got back in the ring and the match was officially underway. Rhino went for the GORE, but Jackie Moore interfered, allowing Storm to get the upper hand. Rhino fought back and nailed Storm with the GORE, but the Cowboy was able to kick out! Rhino tossed in two steel chairs from the fans and went for the Rhinodriver from the second rope. However, Storm battled out of it and hit a flying bulldog on Rhino on the chairs! Storm brought a table in to the ring, but Rhino grounded him with a slam. Rhino then set the table up in the corner. Storm set up Rhino for a superplex and hit it, but couldn’t get the pin. Storm went for the superkick, but Rhino reversed it and hit the GORE on the Cowboy, putting him through the table and covering him for the win! After the bout, Jackie tried to attack Rhino – but he threw her in the ring and hit the GORE on her!

In the back, Kurt Angle was going ballistic in the locker room about Karen claiming Sting slapped her. Sting ran in and tried to put Angle through a locker, at which point Jim Cornette came in and told Sting to go back to the hotel to calm down! Cornette then told Karen Angle to grab her belongings and get out of the arena, because her night was over!

Up next it's Kaz vs. Robert Roode...Kaz started off on the offensive on Roode, using his quickness to get the edge. Whenever Kazarian got the upper hand, Ms. Brooks smiled. Both TNA stars tumbled to the outside, but Brooks couldn’t decide who to help. Roode tried to clothesline Kaz on the outside, but Ms. Brooks got in his life of fire as well. Back in the ring, Roode took over and tried to unleash as much punishment on Kaz as he could. Roode pulled a chain out of his boots and tried to use them, but they got tossed out of the ring. Brooks retrieved the chain and watched as both Kaz and Roode battled for the advantage. Once Roode gained the upper hand and wanted the chain, she dropped it and kicked it under the ring! Kaz went to hit Roode on the outside, but Roode tried to use Brooks as a shield. However, Kaz managed to nail his opponent with a flying clothesline, then he got up and kissed Ms. Brooks’ hand as she smiled ear to ear. Back inside the ring, Kaz hit a reverse DDT on Roode, but Roode kicked out. Kaz went for the Flux Capacitor on the second rope, but ended up hitting a faceplant on Roode instead for a two-count. Kaz went to the top again and tried for a legdrop, but Roode caught him and nailed the Payoff suplex to get the win! After the bout, Roode demanded Ms. Brooks raise his hand, despite the fact she was concerned about Kaz’s condition.

In the back, Crystal interviewed “Black Machismo” Jay Lethal about his upcoming bout against Kurt Angle for the X Championship. Kevin Nash came in and told Lethal it would be in his best interest tonight to take a dive and let Angle win the bout…

“Black Machismo” started off taking it to Angle, using his quickness and X skills to gain the upper hand. However, Angle eventually took over and grounded Lethal with his mat-wrestling prowess. Angle kept trying to go for the pin to end the match early to save his energy for the main event, but Lethal wouldn’t give up. Lethal regained the advantage after a kick to Angle’s head, but Angle answered with a German suplex. Moments later, Angle locked Lethal in and hit him with three more German suplexes. Still, Lethal wouldn’t give in! “Black Machismo” hit the “Lethal Combination” and dropped his trademark elbow from the top, but Angle kicked out. Kurt then went for the ankle lock, but Lethal reversed it to get the three count as “Black Machismo” defeated Kurt Angle to become the new TNA X Division Champion! What an upset as Jay Lethal beat Kurt Angle clean in the middle of the ring! As Lethal celebrated, stars from the X Division came out to congratulate the new champion.

In the back, JB interviewed Black Reign about the upcoming match with "Wildcat" Chris Harris...Black Reign came out with the ominous axe weapon and his rat in the cage. However, before the match got underway “Wildcat” Chris Harris flew off the top rope and hit Black Reign on the floor. It was a no disqualification match, and Harris took advantage by smashing Black Reign with a steel chair. Black Reign and Harris battled each other in the ring, but referee Earl Hebner stopped Black Reign when he tried to use his axe weapon – allowing Harris to roll up his nemesis for the win! After the bout, Harris busted open Black Reign and handcuffed him to the steel ring post. Harris went to nail him with a chair but Black Reign kicked him down and used a key to unlock himself. Black Reign took the rat out of the cage and put in on Harris and forced it towards his face as laughed manically!

In the back, Crystal was with Christian Cage and his Coalition and got his comments about his upcoming match with Samoa Joe! Cage told AJ Styles and Tomko he wouldn't need their help tonight as he would take care of Joe himself...

It was time for the Tag team Gauntlet match, as AJ Styles was out first. The second participant was “The Fallen Angel” Christopher Daniels as the former Tag Team Championship partners would face off to start it. A new man would enter every minute. Out next was Homicide, who went after Daniels and then AJ. Next was Chris Sabin representing the Motor City Machineguns, followed by Havok of Serotonin. Petey Williams was out next, who hit the Canadian Destroyer on Havok! Homicide was eliminated by The Fallen Angel, then AJ Styles tossed out Chris Sabin. Brother Devon of Team 3D was out next, followed by Jimmy Rave. Brother Ray of 3D was out next and joined Brother Devon in tossing out Havok. The next participant was Raven, but he went out quickly as Team 3D threw him over the top. Shark Boy was the next entrant, but he was eliminated by Brother Ray. “The Guru” Sonjay Dutt was the next entrant. Team 3D then eliminated Petey Williams and Jimmy Rave. BG James was the next participant, followed by Hernandez of LAX. The next entry was Tomko, who went after Team 3D and eliminated the both of them! “Primetime” Elix Skipper was the next entrant, followed by Alex Shelley who eliminated BG James. The next entry was Lance Hoyt, who was led out by Christy Hemme. Hoyt tossed Elix Skipper over the top on his head, eliminating him. The next participant was Kip James, who eliminated Dutt. Eric Young was the final entry into the bout. The match came down to AJ Styles, Alex Shelley and Eric Young, as Shelley and AJ worked together to eliminate Young! Sabin and Tomko rejoined their teammates for the final tag team bout to determine a winner. After an amazing battle between both team, AJ Styles rolled up Chris Sabin with a handful of trunks to get the pin and win for he and Tomko! Styles and Tomko are now the number-one contenders to the TNA World Tag Team Championship!

In the back, JB spoke with Joe about his bout against Christian Cage – who promised he would destroy Cage tonight!

After Christian Cage’s entrance, the Samoan dancers came out to introduce Joe. The Samoan Submission Machine blasted out of the entrance and immediately went for Cage in the ring. Joe unleashed hell on Cage, brutalizing him in the ring and on the outside with a full-court press of offense. Cage battled back and gained the advantage, grounding him with a headlock and then a sleeper hold. Later, Joe regained the advantage and hit a Death Valley Driver on Cage, but he kicked out of the pin. Cage went for a top tope frog splash, but missed, allowing Joe to hit a powerbomb which he reversed into an STF submission hold. Later, Cage nailed a top rope inverted DDT on Joe – but Joe kicked out just in time! Cage went for the Unprettier, but Joe reversed it into the Clutch! Cage grabbed the ropes to force the break, but Joe was relentless and refused to release it! Referee Rudy Charles forced Joe off Cage, which resulted in Joe nailing the referee! Joe hit the Muscle Buster on Cage as security hit the ring, but Joe laid them out as well. Referee Andrew Thomas came out to officially disqualify Samoa Joe. After the bout, Petey Williams, Sonjay Dutt and Jay Lethal came out to try to get Joe under control, but he threw them out of the ring. Joe then used a t-shirt to try to choke out Cage! Jim Cornette hit the ring, as did his giant enforcer Matt Morgan – who finally pulled Joe off using brute strength. Cornette pleaded with Joe to stop and leave the ring. Joe obliged, but shot Cornette and Morgan the middle finger before doing so.

In the back, JB interviewed Kurt Angle about his World Title match against Abyss. Angle was irate over losing his matches and what went down with Sting. Kevin Nash came in and tried to talk some sense into Angle, but Kurt told Nash to go to hell!

For the third time tonight, Kurt Angle made his entrance to the ring for the main event for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship against Abyss! The battle started with Abyss trying to wear down the champion – and even playing mindgames with him. Abyss eventually went for a press slam, but Kurt slipped out and clipped the challenger’s knee. Angle then went to work on Abyss’ knee, focusing his attack on it for several minutes. Angle refused to let up on the knee, weakening it for an eventual attempt at the ankle lock submission. Abyss fought back and nailed the Shock Treatment, but Angle kicked out. Later, Angle went back to work on his opponent’s knee – then hit a moonsault for a two-count. Angle then ripped off Abyss’ boot, exposing the ankle to inflict more punishment. Abyss hit the Black Hole Slam out of nowhere, but could only get a two count on the champion. Abyss went for a piledriver, but Angle reversed it into the ankle lock! Abyss was in agony as he couldn’t reach the ropes and eventually tapped out! Kurt Angle beat Abyss and retains the TNA World Heavyweight Championship!

Following the bout, manager James Mitchell appeared on the screen and told Abyss the time has come for hell to be unleashed, and his chariot had arrived! A hand ripped through the bottom of the mat and swallowed Abyss into the hole as the broadcast went off the air! Was it Judas Messias?

SamoaRowe - September 10, 2007 11:19 AM (GMT)
Jay Lethal could beat Angle, but Abyss couldn't.



It's official, Abyss truly is TNA's version of Kane, even more so than before.

dynamite kido - September 10, 2007 02:08 PM (GMT)
The booking of this is mindblowingly stupid.

You know what's so sad about TNA right now? I had NO clue that there even was a PPV last night.

whitemilesdavis - September 10, 2007 02:26 PM (GMT)
Umm, yeah. Me neither. Doesn't look like we missed much.

dynamite kido - September 10, 2007 02:44 PM (GMT)
You're right. It was like watching a best of Kurt Angle tape without the good matches....or so it seems.

whitemilesdavis - September 10, 2007 03:35 PM (GMT)
And what was the point of putting those belts on Angle again? He's already jobbed two of them.

dynamite kido - September 10, 2007 04:37 PM (GMT)
Much like everything TNA does....there IS no point.

eStragand - September 10, 2007 07:21 PM (GMT)
Is there some kind of leaglity that states Pacman Jones isn't allowed to perform any offensive manuevers?

He's already a joke, but now he's making a joke of this joke. If that makes sense.

And golly...Black Reign (Goldust, right?) has a rat in a cage?! It's about time somebody paid homage to Bad News Brown's 100 pounds of Harlem Sewer Rats. I've been waiting for that. Now if someone can pay tribute to Rhythym n' Blues I'm set.

whitemilesdavis - September 10, 2007 07:29 PM (GMT)
I know the Titans didn't want Pacman physically involved. And uhh, what is Black Reign?

SamoaRowe - September 10, 2007 08:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (whitemilesdavis @ Sep 10 2007, 01:29 PM)
I know the Titans didn't want Pacman physically involved. And uhh, what is Black Reign?

I guess Pacman is allowed to wrestle/be involved in matches, as long as he isn't doing anything more than basic, relatively safe stuff.

And Black Reign is Dustin Rhodes trying to do a scary version of Goldust.

whitemilesdavis - September 10, 2007 08:20 PM (GMT)
Yuck.

prof_plague - September 10, 2007 08:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Sep 10 2007, 07:19 AM)
Jay Lethal could beat Angle, but Abyss couldn't.



It's official, Abyss truly is TNA's version of Kane, even more so than before.

Yeah. Abyss should go to the WWE. Mmmm...Kane vs. Abyss feud.

Anyhow... I knew Angle would retain because this is TNA, although Abyss beat him in a tag match days before and Angle lost two matches earlier.

I dunno, may be TNA's claim is that Angle was saving his energy for his main event title match and didn't go "all out" for his two other matches earlier that night.

whitemilesdavis - September 10, 2007 08:50 PM (GMT)
Which helps those belts, how?

SamoaRowe - September 10, 2007 09:07 PM (GMT)
It doesn't. This booking fucking sucks so hard and it's just getting worse.

Seriously, who would have guessed this time last year that TNA would be in the creative shape it's in now (besides Scrooge)?

dynamite kido - September 10, 2007 09:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Sep 10 2007, 03:07 PM)
Seriously, who would have guessed this time last year that TNA would be in the creative shape it's in now (besides Scrooge)?

It pains me to say this, but DVDVR.

Big F'N Swigg - September 10, 2007 09:31 PM (GMT)
Wow. Just miserable. I don't have anything to say....

SamoaRowe - September 10, 2007 11:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (dynamite kido @ Sep 10 2007, 03:23 PM)
QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Sep 10 2007, 03:07 PM)
Seriously, who would have guessed this time last year that TNA would be in the creative shape it's in now (besides Scrooge)?

It pains me to say this, but DVDVR.

:o

I suppose if a blind person shoots a thousand rounds in a general direction, he's bound to hit the target at least once.

dynamite kido - September 11, 2007 04:10 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Sep 10 2007, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE (dynamite kido @ Sep 10 2007, 03:23 PM)
QUOTE (SamoaRowe @ Sep 10 2007, 03:07 PM)
Seriously, who would have guessed this time last year that TNA would be in the creative shape it's in now (besides Scrooge)?

It pains me to say this, but DVDVR.

:o

I suppose if a blind person shoots a thousand rounds in a general direction, he's bound to hit the target at least once.

Exactly.




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