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Title: The Next Step


jamiegeist - April 18, 2006 07:49 AM (GMT)
So obviously the next step is to sign your talent and get your game started. I went ahead and used to editor to put each oh my workers into my fed as a midcarder with a 20 month, 20,000 contract. Just seemed like a good base.

I think another thing we need to do, just to level the playing field, and keep it equal, is to actually pick staff together. Road Agents, Writers, Referees, Medics, etc.

If anyone knows a good number of these that we need, it would help. From there, we just need to actually pinpoint which ones to sign. We also should agree on production values, merchandising values, sponsors, ticket prices, and all of that.

Start on a level playing field, and see where it takes us with our crop of workers.

What do you all think?

SamoaRowe - April 18, 2006 03:04 PM (GMT)
... do we have to?

jamiegeist - April 18, 2006 04:22 PM (GMT)
That didn't help. Do we have to what? Staff? Yeah, we do. We can't run shows until we have staff.

I'm completely willing to compile the data. I just don't wanna go do it and then have someone come on here bitching that they wanted Ricky Steamboat as a road agent instead of Pat Patterson.

SamoaRowe - April 18, 2006 04:57 PM (GMT)
I meant do we really need to have the exact same staff? I don't think it will really make a difference.


Besides, I already went through and hired everyone.

SamoaRowe - April 18, 2006 05:39 PM (GMT)
Also, should Swiggy or Jamie start a thread for this Saturday's debut shows? The reason to start one early in the week would be so we could post previews and such :P

Big F'N Swigg - April 18, 2006 07:47 PM (GMT)
I tried to save it, but my computer wouldn't let me

jamiegeist - April 18, 2006 08:39 PM (GMT)
So Rowe, if you've made all your hires, just post em all here, and we can follow suit.

I'm just saying, that your road agent make a difference in your match ratings, as do your prod guy, referees, and all that. Just wanted to level the playing field.

And I think we should also have equal prod values, merchandising, and all that. Since all yours is set, why don't you hit us with it, and we'll make those the official staff and values for all of that.

SamoaRowe - April 18, 2006 08:41 PM (GMT)
I hired:

Adam Penucci
August Liguori
Brian Gerwitz
Charles Robinson
Craig Aaron
Dean Malenko
Dennis Brent
Gabe Sapolsky
Jerry Jarrett
Jim Mollineaux
Joey Styles
John Finnegan
Johnny Rodz
Michael Vettor
Mike Tenay
Ricky Steamboat
Simon Oldacre

Big F'N Swigg - April 18, 2006 08:42 PM (GMT)
I'd say that all that stuff is up to the individual promoters. We're working on easy, so most of that stuff won't effect anything.

jamiegeist - April 18, 2006 08:43 PM (GMT)
How can you say it won't affect anything? If I have 10% production values, my shows are going to be rated MUCH lower than someone with 100% production values.

Big F'N Swigg - April 18, 2006 08:56 PM (GMT)
Then up your production values. I just think things like Production values and staff are better left to the individual promoters

smkelly13 - April 18, 2006 09:20 PM (GMT)
Well, I'll add my two cents here quick.

I think we should all hire all of the same staff, and keep all of our values the same, let it be 75%, 100%, whatever. Keep things fair.

I'm wanting to write up a show tonight, so yeah, need confirmation.

smkelly13 - April 18, 2006 09:22 PM (GMT)
Also. Need to change the risk value, I personally like having TLC, War Games, etc type of matches. TBS won't allow that, so we'll need to edit the stations risk factor.

jamiegeist - April 18, 2006 09:24 PM (GMT)
I'm interested in not only having a nice diary here for all of us for fun, doing the whole NWA thing, but we could add a bit of a friendly competition to it.

Simple, we set all the values to an agreed upon numbers (100% across the board, editing where necessary, like TV risk) and hire the exact same staff.

That way, all of the intangibles involved in show ratings, match ratings, etc. are essentially disabled. So the only variables left are your individual workers, and your booking.

Therefore, when you pull a 90% on your show, and kick everyone else's ass, it feels good. A bit of a friendly competition, and it could even figure it to some kind of bonus for that territory (World Champ appearance or what not) down the road.

Also, we could have Match of the Month threads, and of course, Match of the Year threads. I feel I developed a very fair and good scale for matches, that I would be glad to post, so we can convert to snowflakes.

Big F'N Swigg - April 18, 2006 09:27 PM (GMT)
The problem comes with personal preference. Mad Dog hired Mike Tenay and Brian Gerwitz, whereas I would never hire either of them. I'm going for a more aggressive show, and have hired Tommy Dreamer as a trainer to emphasize that. The company should reflect your choices in booking just as much as the show

jamiegeist - April 18, 2006 09:29 PM (GMT)
Wait, Trainer?

Are we having a development territory as well?

Well thats what I'm saying. If we were governed by the NWA, which we are in our "scenario" then we would be limited in who we could hire for staff, and how much money we could spend towards production and such. I'm saying we should set an NWA standard, and go with it.

Big F'N Swigg - April 18, 2006 09:30 PM (GMT)
The thing is, though, that the NWA left all that up to the individual territories as well. That's why Crockett got where he was, and how he failed as well

jamiegeist - April 18, 2006 09:31 PM (GMT)
So we have no limits then? Do whatever you want? Okay then.

All I'm saying, is I'd like some more set ground rules for everything here. I think it has a large part to do with why this thing failed the first time. Organization and standards.

Big F'N Swigg - April 18, 2006 09:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (jamiegeist @ Apr 18 2006, 03:31 PM)
So we have no limits then? Do whatever you want? Okay then.

All I'm saying, is I'd like some more set ground rules for everything here. I think it has a large part to do with why this thing failed the first time. Organization and standards.

I agree, but the organization should only be outside the individual territories. We're a confederation of territories who have a greed to work together. Kind of like what the USA originally was

smkelly13 - April 18, 2006 09:34 PM (GMT)
Creed, not greed. ;)

jamiegeist - April 18, 2006 09:34 PM (GMT)
I agree with your point on Individual promoters. However, their underlying goal was to make money, which you've said we aren't even worried about. So why wouldn't I just hire all the best in the world, and max out my details?

Oh, and are we having a development? This was never mentioned.

tjwills00 - April 18, 2006 09:35 PM (GMT)
Not the best historical context when you consider the miserable failure of the Articles of Confederation.

Big F'N Swigg - April 18, 2006 09:38 PM (GMT)
The historical context was just for reference.

And I said trainer. As in Training Camp.

jamiegeist - April 18, 2006 09:40 PM (GMT)
Okay, so we're running a training camp then?

I just want clarification on the details please.

And also, can we feel free to fuck with the risk of TBS? I'm gonna up it to 100% so i have access to all matches.

tjwills00 - April 18, 2006 09:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
The historical context was just for reference.


I know, but I'm just saying that you're referencing a failed confederation, not the best way to make a point, but I digress.

Big F'N Swigg - April 18, 2006 10:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (tjwills00 @ Apr 18 2006, 03:42 PM)
QUOTE
The historical context was just for reference.


I know, but I'm just saying that you're referencing a failed confederation, not the best way to make a point, but I digress.

It's also true, though, that the US maintained a similar balance between federal and state until the Civil War. Which maintains my point. Weakly, mind you, but my point is maintained

jamiegeist - April 18, 2006 10:30 PM (GMT)
Right, so I'm writing up some NWA rules and regulations for setup purposes.




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