Title: OAO NHL Off-Season Discussion:
Description: You know the drill...
Description: You know the drill...
Scrooge McSuck - August 4, 2005 04:46 PM (GMT)
Just for the hell of it, an official NHL topic for random comments that don't really deserve a topic.
- Lightning won't repeat as champions.
- Rangers will start good and collapse after 3 weeks... again.
- The Devils will be in the 2006 Finals
- Lightning won't repeat as champions.
- Rangers will start good and collapse after 3 weeks... again.
- The Devils will be in the 2006 Finals
Scrooge McSuck - August 6, 2005 03:57 PM (GMT)
Well my Lightning took a major blow... the Bulin Wall (Nikolai Khabibulin) left for Chicago. Excuse me while I cry a little bit.
Also, Paul Kariya signed with the Nashville F'N Predators. Yuck...
Also, Paul Kariya signed with the Nashville F'N Predators. Yuck...
S.T. Strickler - August 6, 2005 04:20 PM (GMT)
You're right about the Lightning not repeating as champs. Hasn't been done since the Red Wings won it in '96-'97 and '97-'98.. It's what I call "The Circle"... Or just give it your own name.
'97-'98: Detroit Wins Stanley Cup over Washington.
'98-'99: Dallas Stars beat Buffalo Sabres; Detroit lost to Dallas in Western Conf. playoffs.
'99-'00: New Jersey Devils beat previous champ Dallas Stars.
'00-'01: Colorado beats previous champ New Jersey.
'01-'02: Detroit beat Carolina in Finals; Colorado loses in Western Conference Finals.
'02-'03: New Jersey beats Anaheim; Detroit lost to Anaheim in 1st round.
'03-'04: Tampa Bay beats Calgary; Devils lost somewhere in playoffs.
'97-'98: Detroit Wins Stanley Cup over Washington.
'98-'99: Dallas Stars beat Buffalo Sabres; Detroit lost to Dallas in Western Conf. playoffs.
'99-'00: New Jersey Devils beat previous champ Dallas Stars.
'00-'01: Colorado beats previous champ New Jersey.
'01-'02: Detroit beat Carolina in Finals; Colorado loses in Western Conference Finals.
'02-'03: New Jersey beats Anaheim; Detroit lost to Anaheim in 1st round.
'03-'04: Tampa Bay beats Calgary; Devils lost somewhere in playoffs.
Scrooge McSuck - August 6, 2005 04:47 PM (GMT)
Well, that doesn't mean they WON'T win, but unless they get a great replacement in the goaltender position, I don't see it happening, especially when certain teams like the Flyers are already abusing the salary cap by signing people to $7 million a year contracts.
Scrooge McSuck - August 25, 2005 12:12 AM (GMT)
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| ST. PETERSBURG, Florida (Ticker) - Hart Trophy winner Martin St. Louis had no intention of leaving linemate Vincent Lecavalier. The Tampa Bay Lightning re-signed St. Louis, who led the NHL in scoring in 2003-04, to a six-year contract worth a reported $31.5 million on Wednesday. The signing of the 30-year-old left wing comes eight days after the Lightning inked star center Lecavalier to a four-year contract worth $27.2 million. Both helped the Lightning win their first Stanley Cup in 2004. "I've said it many times in the past and I continue to maintain that Martin St. Louis is the 'heart and soul' of our hockey team," Lightning general manager Jay Feaster said. "Dating all the way back to the summer of 2004, there was never a moment when we were not firmly committed as an organization to getting Marty signed long-term." Despite posting career highs of 38 goals and 56 assists in 2003-04, St. Louis clearly accepted less than the $6.8 million annual salary Lecavalier will receive. "The fact that he was willing to take less and give up the chance to explore unrestricted free agency demonstrates his commitment to our team, his teammates, our franchise and our incredible fans," Feaster said. "We are thrilled to know that not only our MVP, but the NHL's MVP, is back in the fold and will be here in Tampa Bay for a very long time." However, the Lightning were unable to retain goaltender Nikolai Khabibulin, who recently signed a four-year, $27 million contract with Chicago. The league's new $39 million salary cap made it virtually impossible for the Lightning to keep St. Louis, Lecavalier and Khabibulin. St. Louis recorded nine goals and 15 assists in Tampa Bay's postseason run and helped the Lightning stave off elimination in Game Six of the Stanley Cup Finals, scoring in the second overtime at Calgary. The Lightning went on to edge the Flames in Game Seven. The 5-9, 185-pound St. Louis also helped Canada win the 2004 World Cup of Hockey with two goals and two assists in six games and recently participated in Team Canada's Winter Olympic evaluation camp in British, Columbia. During the NHL lockout in 2004-05, St. Louis played for Lausanne in Switzerland, where he recorded nine goals and 16 assists in 23 games. St. Louis signed with Tampa Bay prior to the 2000-01 season. After suffering a broken leg that sidelined him for 19 games in 2001-02, St. Louis recorded 33 goals and 37 assists for the Lightning in 2002-03. Prior to signing with Tampa Bay, St. Louis played parts of two seasons with the Calgary Flames. |
Excuse me while I do the happiest happy dance on the fucking planet.
Scrooge McSuck - August 25, 2005 12:21 AM (GMT)
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| Former NHL star Theo Fleury signs with Belfast Giants on Tuesday BELFAST (CP) - Theo Fleury joined the Belfast Giants in what the team was touting as one of the biggest signings in British hockey history. The former Calgary Flames star had been waiting for a British work permit, and finally got the green light to play for Belfast on Tuesday. "This is the biggest ever signing for the Belfast Giants and indeed the Elite League," Giants coach Ed Courtenay said on the team's website. "Having scored over 1,000 points in as many NHL games, we know Theo will be a huge boost for the sport of ice hockey in the U.K. "I am really looking forward to coaching Theo. . . " Courtenay added that Fleury is the only Olympic gold medallist in any sport to play and train in Northern Ireland. The five-foot-six Fleury won gold with Canada at the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics. He wasn't invited to the recent camp for the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin. "Fleury is an international ice hockey legend and he will bring a new dimension to the sport of ice hockey here in Belfast," said Courtenay. Fleury played with the Horse Lake Thunder of the Alberta Senior Hockey League last season, leading the team to the semifinals at the Allan Cup, the Canadian senior league championship. He was under contract with the Chicago Blackhawks the previous season, but didn't play a single game because he was suspended by the NHL for violating the league's substance abuse program. Fleury is a native of Russell, Man., and had 1,088 points (455 goals, 633 assists) in 1,084 career NHL games. He signed with Belfast because of his friendship with new investor Jim Yaworski, "who has mentored him through a tough patch in his career overcoming alcoholism and Chrohn's disease," the website said. "Theo is an outstandingly talented hockey player who just loves to play," Yaworksi said. "I have asked him to come to Belfast to play for the Giants and become a hero in a new town." |
Scrooge McSuck - August 25, 2005 01:22 AM (GMT)
Apparently ESPN isn't picking up games this season (bastards), but I've heard OLN is picking them up instead. You know, the channel that airs such awesome sports like golfing, fishing, and the Tour De Frace.
Dorian - August 25, 2005 08:30 PM (GMT)
Hi, I'm new here. But anyways:
Hossa and DeVries were traded from the Senators to the Thrashers in exchange for Dany Heatley.
For the time being until we see if he's healthy or not, I'm gonna say Thrashers got the better of the deal.
Hossa and DeVries were traded from the Senators to the Thrashers in exchange for Dany Heatley.
For the time being until we see if he's healthy or not, I'm gonna say Thrashers got the better of the deal.
Scrooge McSuck - August 25, 2005 08:44 PM (GMT)
Hallelujah! Someone else in the sports folder! Anyway, the deal looks balanced on paper, but you hit the nail on the head. It depends on how healthy Heatley is. Either way, I don't care, since I've been against the expansion teams as of late (including the Thrashers), and was always ticked off how well the Senators did against my teams. :D
Scrooge McSuck - August 26, 2005 02:46 AM (GMT)
Aug 23 - Patrik Elias signed the one-year, $4.18 million qualifying offer from the Devils on Monday, according to the Asbury Park Press. Elias is still recovering from Hepatitis A.
Aug 22 - Teemu Selanne has signed with the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, agreeing to a one-year contract. The 35-year-old forward and nine-time All-Star spent the 2003-04 campaign with the Colorado Avalanche, notching 16 goals and 16 assists. In 879 career games, he's posted 452 goals and 499 assists.
Aug 22 - Teemu Selanne has signed with the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, agreeing to a one-year contract. The 35-year-old forward and nine-time All-Star spent the 2003-04 campaign with the Colorado Avalanche, notching 16 goals and 16 assists. In 879 career games, he's posted 452 goals and 499 assists.
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| LIGHTNING RE-SIGN TEAM CAPTAIN DAVE ANDREYCHUK 8/25/2005 22-YEAR VETERAN AGREES TO 2-YEAR DEAL The 2004 Stanley Cup Champion Tampa Bay Lightning have re-signed unrestricted free agent left wing Dave Andreychuk to a two-year contract, Executive Vice President & General Manager Jay Feaster announced today. In accordance with club policy, financial terms of the contract were not disclosed. In 2004 Andreychuk realized his dreams when he lifted the Stanley Cup for the first time after 1,597 regular season and 162 playoff games. The 6-foot-4, 220-pound 41-year-old native of Hamilton, Ontario recorded a goal and 13 assists in 23 games during the Lightning’s Stanley Cup run, setting a franchise mark for assists by a left wing in a playoff season. During the 2003-04 regular season he was sixth on the team in points (39) and appeared in all 82 games. “Dave Andreychuk walked into our locker room four seasons ago and helped us find our way,” Feaster said. “He helped our young players grow and develop and mature more quickly, and he helped establish an expectation level in terms of expecting to win each and every night through hard work and commitment. Just as importantly, Dave immediately bought into John Tortorella's 'team concept' and helped sell that message to his teammates. Having his veteran presence back in our locker room, and his perennial 20-goal contribution on the ice, are huge factors in helping us attempt to repeat as Stanley Cup Champions.” Andreychuk ranks second all-time in the NHL among left wings in goals (634), assists (686) and points (1,320), and currently sits seventh in league history in games played. He is five goals ahead of Brett Hull for most career power-play goals (270) and reached the 20-goal mark for the 19th time in 2003-04, third most in NHL history behind Gordie Howe (22) and Ron Francis (20). Andreychuk was signed as a free agent by the Lightning on July 13, 2001, and was named the seventh captain in team history on September 11, 2002. He became the 14th player in league history to record 600 goals on November 23, 2002 at New Jersey. He has completed 22 NHL seasons with Buffalo, Toronto, New Jersey, Boston, Colorado and Tampa Bay, recording 634 goals, 686 assists, 1,320 points and 1,109 penalty minutes. Originally drafted by Buffalo 16th overall in 1983, Andreychuk has recorded two 50-goal seasons, two 40-goal seasons and an additional five seasons with 30 or more goals. A two-time NHL All-Star (1990, 1994), Andreychuk set career highs with 54 goals in 1992-93 with Buffalo and Toronto and 99 points in both 1992-93 and 1993-94. He recorded a career high of five goals in a game vs. Boston in 1986, and has tallied four goals in a game three times and three goals in a game seven times. Andreychuk also has skated in 162 career Stanley Cup Playoff games, recording 43 goals, 54 assists, 97 points and 162 penalty minutes. |
Dorian - August 26, 2005 02:58 AM (GMT)
Dale there till he's 43? Geezus, he's gonna be the Flair of the League soon. ^_^ Not that I wouldn't mind, he still puts up good numbers for a man of his age.
Pretty nice that TB can afford to get all their players, so you know you might wanna consider getting rid of Bulin Wall a bonus.
Pretty nice that TB can afford to get all their players, so you know you might wanna consider getting rid of Bulin Wall a bonus.
Scrooge McSuck - August 26, 2005 03:02 AM (GMT)
They still haven't done anything with Richards (that I know of), and with them giving big money to St. Louis and Lecavalier, and an undisclosed amount to Andreychuk, either they will offer hima ridiculously low contract, or he's bolting (har har) somewhere else.
On the topic of age, Brett Hull and Brian Leetch are still kicking, and they both got to be 40-41 as well. (cries) WHY DID LEETCH HAVE TO LEAVE?! DAMNY OU RANGERS MANAGEMENT!
On the topic of age, Brett Hull and Brian Leetch are still kicking, and they both got to be 40-41 as well. (cries) WHY DID LEETCH HAVE TO LEAVE?! DAMNY OU RANGERS MANAGEMENT!
Scrooge McSuck - August 26, 2005 03:42 AM (GMT)
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Mighty Ducks trade C Rucchin to Rangers ANAHEIM, California (Ticker) - The Mighty Ducks of Anaheim parted ways with their captain Tuesday, trading center Steve Rucchin to the New York Rangers for left wing Trevor Gillies and a conditional pick in 2007. Drafted second overall by Anaheim in the 1994 supplemental draft, Rucchin served as the Mighty Ducks' captain in 2003-04 following the free-agent departure of Paul Kariya. He posted his second straight 20-goal season and added 23 assists in 82 games. "Steve is a player who adds leadership, experience and size at the center-ice position," Rangers general manager Glen Sather said. "He has demonstrated over his career to be a versatile player who plays a solid, two-way game. His competitive nature will have a positive impact on our young players." The previous season, Rucchin helped Anaheim to its first Stanley Cup Finals appearance, recording seven goals and three assists in 21 playoff games after registering 20 tallies and 58 points in 82 regular-season contests. "The Mighty Ducks would like to thank Steve Rucchin for his efforts and dedication over the last 10 years in Anaheim," Mighty Ducks general manager Brian Burke said. "We wish him the very best of luck with the New York Rangers." Rucchin, who is slated to make $2.261 million this season, has appeared in 616 games with the Ducks, collecting 153 goals and 279 assists. The 34-year-old native of Thunder Bay, Ontario who scored a career-high 23 goals in 1998-99, missed large portions of the 2000-01 and 2001-02 seasons due to jaw and leg injuries. Gillies, 26, spent last season with Hartford of the American Hockey League, recording two assists and a club-high 277 penalty minutes in 49 games. The 6-3, 210-pounder also notched 277 penalty minutes with the AHL's Springfield Falcons the previous season. Beginning in 1998-99 with Oshawa of the Ontario Hockey League, Gillies has collected at least 200 penalty minutes in seven consecutive seasons. |
Dorian - August 26, 2005 06:00 AM (GMT)
Ok, that trade is just the pits for the Ducks. I'm sorry, but I don't like the return they get for Rucchin.
Scrooge McSuck - August 26, 2005 06:04 AM (GMT)
Either Anahiem management is trying to tank the team intentionally, or they are clearing out high contracts for people willing to work for the league minimum.
Scrooge McSuck - August 29, 2005 04:46 PM (GMT)
http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/cba/rules_changes072205.html
New rules for the NHL, and since I can barely understand the original rules, I'll be going over this carefully.
New rules for the NHL, and since I can barely understand the original rules, I'll be going over this carefully.
Scrooge McSuck - August 30, 2005 03:58 AM (GMT)
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| Leafs owin' Nolan? By David Pollak, Mercury News Here we thought Owen Nolan was tough when he played for the Sharks and went into corners with menace in his eyes. That was nothing. The Maple Leafs are finding out just how tough Nolan really is. Nolan and the team that got him from the Sharks in March 2003 are in a legal donnybrook, headed to arbitration with about $12 million at stake. Forget salary cap. We're talking kneecap -- OK, to be more precise it's the entire knee. Nolan injured it in a weird play against Ottawa on March 27, 2004, and now it's at the heart of the dispute. According to Toronto Star accounts, Nolan and his agent contend that Leafs physicians misdiagnosed the injury, which continues to bother the ex-Shark and required another operation July 19. No way, say the Leafs. Whatever is bothering Nolan today is the result of something that happened during the lockout, they contend, because Toronto team physicians cleared Nolan to play in late October 2004. Nolan and his agent questioned that ruling at the time. If an arbitrator agrees with them now, Nolan -- who spent most of the lockout in San Jose with his wife and family -- conceivably could collect his entire salary from the 2004-05 non-season ($6.5 million) plus what he says he's due for the coming season ($5.6 million) based on an option clause in his contract. That contract, in case you've lost track, is the one he negotiated with the Sharks in 2000. At a session with fans in Toronto last week, General Manager John Ferguson was asked point blank how much the Nolan dispute was going to cost the Leafs. According to the Star, Ferguson initially said ``not a cent.'' Then he backed down a bit: ``Frankly, we don't know where it goes from here.'' |
Darryl The Hitman - December 9, 2007 04:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dorian @ Aug 25 2005, 06:58 PM) |
| Pretty nice that TB can afford to get all their players, so you know you might wanna consider getting rid of Bulin Wall a bonus. |
I think TB fans would disagree with this now...
BTW, what does this OAO stand for? I thought the name of this place was dWb? The only OAO I know of is the Old Age Outlaws from the latter-day stages of WCW but I'm hard-pressed to imagine anyone liked that angle enough to name an entire forum after it...