I thought the CBBC logo was very apt :lol:

I noticed the CBBC thing :lol:

I get the feeling they needed an episode that would cost almost nothing to produce and needed little input from most of the main cast, like the ep in the last series of Doctor Who.

Hmmmmm :ponder: Love and Monsters anyone?

They could have ripped off any Doctor Who episode they wanted, but they had to go and piick the worst one ever :rolleyes:

Definitely the weakest episode so far. Were the rest of the main cast busy that week?

The character of Eugene was just so, I don't know, bland. I never warmed to him at all, in fact when I found out that he had worked in a sales call centre, I started hating him :lol:

Though, I couldn't have been the only one waiting for more clues about what happens after death, and what's coming after Jack. Was I? :unsure:

Extremely sub par episode.

Well I enjoyed it :lol:

It was OK and quite fun, but all the way through I kept thinking Dr Who did this last year couldn't they have thought of something else.

Oh it wasn't original, that's for sure - and neither was the Doctor Who episode. Loads of other shows have done similar stories (Star Trek and The X Files spring immediately to mind) :)

Yeah but what made it worse was that it's the same production team.

That's true enough :ponder:

I still enjoyed it :lol:

So this was they're version of Love and Monsters, 'cept I liked L&M and nearly fell asleep during this. It was all a bit dull, and the "Don't go Eugene" bit at the end was just far too cheesy. Gwen seems to get away with way too much at Torchwood, letting Suzie out last week and then disappearing this week <_<

They did it better though :)

The fact that the story is the same old same old doesn't matter much to me. It's the awful acting that bothers me.

And the rumours about what JB had been doing with 'the eye'.....ewwww didn't help much either :x

Haven't seen this one yet, but worse than Love & Monsters? That's almost inconceivable......:rolleyes:

Quiet you :)

Love & Monsters was one of the season's best episodes....

I liked L&M but this didn't work for me at all, terrible ending as well. :rolleyes:

This one was below average, not so good especially after last weeks excellent episode. I noticed the CBBC logo and laughed as well, I'm not a fan of these logos and with these kinds of mistakes happening I wish they could just get rid of them totally.

No far the worst TV, but not very good at all. I'm not really a fan of these kinds of episodes, and agreed with most of what Owen said, 'to give up on it' and if Gwen did then it probably would have been a better episode. Although I have been a fan of this series cracks are starting to develop.

One this week was the COMPLETE turn around of the Gwen and Owen, romantics, after last couple of episodes where we have seen them 'in love' especially with Toshiko hearing their thoughts, 'why isn't he looking at me' etc. etc. This episode seemed to not deal with that all and it seemed they had fallen out of love, but this was not explained AT ALL. Also wheres the boyfriend gone?? Not dealt with at all, and that should have been one of the main things her having to break up with her boyfriend.

Also I was also expecting a pottery scene (where is patrick swayze?) to appear at any moment.

One thing that has been made apparently clear to me although we have yet to see the Doctor's new companion, so I can't pass judgement. Gwen Cooper may have made an excellent companion to the Doctor, as especially the actress, maybe they should have chosen her to be the new companion??

Hoping for a return to some kind of form next week.....

Also Torchwood has been comissioned for a second series, but BBC2 has pinched it from BBC3, so it'll be airing first on BBC2 and probably repeats on BBC3.

:ermm: the geek, the obsession, the voice over, the bit with the video .............. yep something from love and monster :rolleyes:

the alien thingie ........ was it what jack said it could be or totally a different thing :ponder:

what is it with insane driver not stopping for pedestrian (even if the guy xas drunk the first time). ianto found a little too quickly the driver (but then gwen would have found the eye if she had done the autopsy)

i was expecting a little more about the alien obsession of eugene than just a collection ........... i mean after so much years looking around, he didn't have much (and no club :shifty: )

eugene after gwen: each time he run into her (for a torchwood investigation i suppose), she is all professional as if she has been at torchwood for years but somehow that seem false, she is usually more friendly.


interesting to follow gwen investigating the last week of eugene but each discovery show a very average character (i was expecting more than eugene's friends). not one of the best episode.

I'm with the majority here. Probably the weakest episode of the season. However, I still liked it. Lets hope the show takes a turn upwards again next week.

A nice idea... I liked 'Love and Monsters', and enjoy episodes of any show that looks at a familiar theme from a slightly different angle. For me, that worked. This one didn't. It had it's moments, but was overall disappointing.

Andrew :yahoo:

I haven't seen it yet, will do tonight, but don't you think that it's a little early in a fairly new series to be introducing episodes like this when the show is still trying (not very well) to establish it's characters etc? :)

First of all Hovis, love the avatar!

I haven't see this Love and Monsters episode you are all talking about, and if I have it obviously didn't register on the exciting Who episode scale. As such I don't have anything to compare this epiosde to, but I did find it a tad dull. It was as if everything that the show has been building up to so far was forgotten and the writers were putting their feet up and making a safe episode.

Hopefully next week's will be far better.

Well that was... dull. Eugene's constant narration irritated me after about 10 minutes. It always annoys me in any ghost type film/programme, where the ghost keeps trying to talk to people "hey Gary, it's me!", ok do it a couple of times, but you're dead, they can't hear you FFS :rolleyes:

There was more 'you're amazing' nonsense to Gwen. Why on earth is she amazing? She's completely incompetent. I couldn't believe she nearly got run over at the end. Is there anything she can't do without cocking it up?

The bit at the end with Eugene going up and everyone looking up after him was so awful, as was Danny Boy. Oh sweet mother of God, I hate that song with a firey passion. It was a lame, cliched attempt to tug at the heartstrings, but it was just embarrassing.

Owen is an ass.

Jack's hair has lost it's gingerness, he's obviously had his roots done.

After a couple of half-decent episodes, this was poor. Each episode is so standalone that any characterisation changes from week to week. As Dan said, what's happened to Gwen/Owen?

This is the sort of story that they could have gotten away with in series 3/4, but to plonk it in the middle of the first series just seems...odd :)

gwen/owen ............ maybe gwen decide to put a stop after suzie "so you are my replacement, you are sleeping with owen too" from last week (kinda cold shower) (but the writers should have made it clearer) :unsure: :shrug:

I didn't think this episode was too bad. It started off alright, and it's heart was in the right place, but I will admit it did become a bit boring, and it wasn't rescued by the pointless twist at the end. What I keep thinking, as I watch this series, is how amateurish it seems.

I agree, especially about the Oh Danny Boy.....totally cringe worthy.....

Owens such an ass and thats why I love his character, with so much blandness in this episode his one-liners and obvious lack of morals was the only entertaining part of this episode for me.

Hopefully this episode only came about because John Barrowman was busy at the time and if anything Ianto' s new suit and haircut have sharpened him up a little, but showing this episode directly after a fantastic one, just was plain stupid.

Roll on Sunday, hopefully as we reach the latter part of the series an arc will start to develop, as this show doesn't really know what direction it wants to go in....granted its entertaining, but really it has no enduring appeal to me its watch and trash, in comparison with Doctor Who which is a watch and watch and I want to watch it over and over again, like I said the show will last a few years, end and be forgotten about, unless it can find its feet.

Again...why were they there? It was after all just a RTA and really didn't warrant a visit from Torchwood's erm.....finest :ponder:

Also... why was Gwen going to do the autopsy? WTF? :shrug:

Why didn't Eugene have a Welsh accent?

Didn't the younger son look like Daniel Radcliffe circa The Philospher's Stone? :)

To answer Max's question they were there to check if anything supernatural or strange has happened because its quite weird that a person who has been heckling torchwood, ends up dead. But yes and they said at the time it was a waste of time as all it seemed was RTA.

Because Owen thought it was a waste of time and not worth it (and it was) so Gwen to be stubborn said she would do it, yes stupid because obviously she has no idea and wouldn't be able to do it.