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Phillip Culley - October 23, 2006 02:16 AM (GMT)
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When Torchwood arrives on the scene of a brutal murder, WPC Gwen Cooper's burning curiosity is challenged. Their attitude, their approach and their technology is at odds with everything she believes in. But investigating the investigators leads her into a dark, paranoid world she never imagined existed.

Bakhesh - October 23, 2006 02:08 PM (GMT)
Did no-one watch this then? Thought this thread would be very busy.

I was out on saturday, so I missed it, but i was curious to know what people thought.

laughitupfuzzball - October 23, 2006 02:37 PM (GMT)
I did say in the lounge but go on then :)

Loved it. I thought Gwen was great, feisty determined and full of compassion. Jack was entertaining and shrouded with mystery, great the way he reeled her in.

Not sure I like the rest of Torchwood yet but I loved the hidden base in sewer like surroundings. It's got massive potential :thumbsup: hopefully the bbc won't bother making any more Robin Hood and will put the budget Torchwood's way :lol:

willowroolz - October 23, 2006 02:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bakhesh @ Oct 23 2006, 03:08 PM)
I was out on saturday, so I missed it, but i was curious to know what people thought.

But it was on on Sunday :blink:

As first episodes go I thought it was okay. It seemed to me, in a lot of ways, to be a re-hash of the Rose episode from Doctor Who - substitute Gwen for Rose and both plots followed a similar pattern. There were some amusing bits (I liked Harkness's assertion that no alien technology was ever taken out of Torchwood, and the subsequent montage of his colleagues messing around with said technology at their various homes :lol: ). Some of the acting was a bit ropey, though.

goth willow fan - October 23, 2006 02:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (willowroolz @ Oct 23 2006, 03:44 PM)
QUOTE (Bakhesh @ Oct 23 2006, 03:08 PM)
I was out on saturday, so I missed it, but i was curious to know what people thought.

But it was on on Sunday :blink:

Maybe it's a temporal anomaly type thing.

I enjoyed it, didn't really see to many parallels with Rose, but then I really don't like that ep at all.

I like the fact that it's designed from the off as a post-watershed show and can thus be a little meatier than Dr Who.

Bakhesh - October 23, 2006 03:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (willowroolz @ Oct 23 2006, 02:44 PM)
QUOTE (Bakhesh @ Oct 23 2006, 03:08 PM)
I was out on saturday, so I missed it, but i was curious to know what people thought.

But it was on on Sunday :blink:

When I go out on Saturday, who knows what time I come back......



Actually, I must have got the day wrong. Its so rare that I actually put the TV on these days, that I missed out on all ther trailers etc.

Crichton Kicks - October 23, 2006 03:26 PM (GMT)
I thought that as a first episode, this was a lot better than Doctor Who's Rose. Yes there are obvious parallels, but I don't mind re-using material so long as they're improving on the original, and this obviously does.

On the acting front, I actually thought it was a bit better than the usual standard we see on Doctor Who. I thought Barrowman was actually quite good in the leading role, as a character he came across a lot better than he has done previously in Doctor Who. There's obviously the mystery behind his apparent resurrection as well which should prove to be an interesting thread.

All in all, enjoyed it, probably moreso than I thought I would. Haven't seen the second episode yet though, I was too :yawn:

melian - October 23, 2006 03:40 PM (GMT)
I really enjoyed it :thumbsup:

I love the character of Jack from Dr Who, so it is great to see him on our screens again! Although I wish they would stop having him pose with his hands on his hips all the time, I kept wanting to call him Horacio :lol:

I was really shocked when a certain thing happened (no spoilers till the episodes air on BBC2 on Wednesday ;) ) but this has only lead to more and more questions about Jack :unsure:

Great start to a new series :thumbsup:

prophecy girl - October 23, 2006 04:46 PM (GMT)
someone said that the resurection of captain jack had consequence .... yep can't die (and is it me or he seem obsess about asking what the resurected guy saw when he was dead). a mention of the doctor (does that mean the doctor will appear in one episode? :ponder: )

yep, a little bloody for a first episode, an interesting introduction of each character (plus the bad one) and of torchwood (the one in cardiff, i wanna know about the missing one in glasgow ... iirc). i like gwen (i hope she will be developped a little more and will stop thinking as a cop)

the torchwood ... loved the different entrance (not sure how four people were able to used the lift?)

an too easy explanation of why gwen was able to remember one tiny thing and why she remembered everything as soon bad girl was dead

gwen: i don't want to follow you all the time

captain jack: yes you do

quite a good episode :)



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Fangy and grrr - October 23, 2006 04:58 PM (GMT)
Really enjoyed it. :thumbsup:

Considering all the explaining and setting it up it had to do I thought it flowed quite well. I never had a problem with it being set in Cardiff but the way they explained it - the riff in time thingy and the fact that there are other Torchwoods made sense to me so I would hope people who do have a problem with it can get over it.

I really liked Gwen and I always liked Jack and I thought it had a nice line in humour throughout so all in all a pretty good start. :)

little pixie - October 23, 2006 08:24 PM (GMT)
Enjoyed this first ep - thought it looked great. :thumbsup:

I thought Gwen was a little slow on the uptake when she saw the Weevil for the first time. :rolleyes:

Hovis - October 24, 2006 10:04 AM (GMT)
I really, really enjoyed it. A nice way of establishing the characters and the setting and at the same time having a good fun storyline too.

Like a few others, I had my doubts, but John Barrowman seems to be doing a great job. I liked Captain Jack in Doctor Who, but I wasn't sure he could sustain a show as a major character in his own right. Hopefully, I'll be proved wrong over the next few months.

Don't tell Mrs Hovis, but I think I'm developing a crush on Eve Myles! :wub:

All in all, great stuff, highly promising.

Andrew :yahoo:

Bad Wolf - October 24, 2006 01:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (goth willow fan @ Oct 23 2006, 02:50 PM)
I enjoyed it, didn't really see to many parallels with Rose, but then I really don't like that ep at all.


Do you have no shame? How can you not like that episode? It's fantastic!!! :snooty:

goth willow fan - October 24, 2006 01:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bad Wolf @ Oct 24 2006, 02:05 PM)
QUOTE (goth willow fan @ Oct 23 2006, 02:50 PM)
I enjoyed it, didn't really see to many parallels with Rose, but then I really don't like that ep at all.


Do you have no shame? How can you not like that episode? It's fantastic!!! :snooty:

No it isn't :p

Bad Wolf - October 24, 2006 01:59 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (goth willow fan @ Oct 24 2006, 01:45 PM)
No it isn't :p

It so is :p

jamiearmour - October 24, 2006 05:32 PM (GMT)
Well, after having taken a few days at work to digest it :shifty:

Here's my thoughts on the opening ep....

Like many of you, I thought it was almost a rip off of Rose, well, except for the inclusion of blood, gore, swearing and a distinct (thankfully) lack of burping wheelie bins :lol:

Who knew the Welsh could swear so well, I almost :blush: if I hadn't been so busy laughing.

So, did anyone else find it Darker than Doctor Who? Nope, me neither, I thought it was light and airy when compared with the likes of The Empty Child, but as opening eps go, it was brilliant.

I love the secret base, right below the Millenium Centre, and their "invisible lift" is a work of genius. I want one :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

In keeping with the no spoilers before the Beeb2 repeat, please ignore the spoilery bits in the following section....


so Jack can't die eh? I thought that there would be consequences to Rose bringing him back, maybe she had the power, but not the knowledge to properly control it

A great start :yahoo:

Now, who's for ep2?

Darris - October 26, 2006 02:35 PM (GMT)
I forgot it was on on Wednesday so I aquired it last night. Having not seen the first series of the new Who (apart from when the Daleks came back) I didn't know it was Rose who brought Jack back.

I thought as a first episode it wasn't that bad, it was kind of obvious though that Gwen would end up being recruited as a member of Torchwood. Apart from the addition of the F word I didn't think it was that much more grown up than Dr Who.







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