Well that was a bit good :o :thumbsup:

I liked that it didn't pick up exactly where Lay Down Your Burdens ended, I thought that had the neat effect of throwing you off balance for the first 10 or 15 minutes because you weren't exactly sure what was going on and how some of the characters had ended up in their particular predicaments.

It also meant that there had been some interesting character development that had gone on out of our view (I believe a lot of it happened in the webisodes, which I haven't seen yet - have to rectify that!), especially with Tigh, Starbuck and Apollo. Tigh, especially, seems to be heading down a very stark and unpleasant route. I had this niggling doubt at the back of my mind all the way through that I was seeing things in this that I see, unhappily, every week on the news (last July sprang to mind several times). I watch shows such as this for entertainment and escapism but this was very uncomfortable to watch, not least because we're watching it from the viewpoint of these being the "good" guys, and very relevant. In that respect it achieved everything it set out to, I guess.

I'd been wondering if we were going to see any fallout from Starbuck's stay at the Farm all the way through season 2. Then I forgot about it so it came as quite a surprise :lol: I'm sure I'm not the only one who wondered how long her act would last at the start, and now I'm wondering how long her new act will go on for :ponder:

Nice to see that there was still time for a laugh, in the scene where the Cylons were standing around debating whether to execute Baltar, with him in the background going "What? Me?!" oslt :lol:

The ending reminded me of that scene in The Great Escape when Richard Attenborough and co are executed. Hell of way to end it :o :thumbsup:

Well, that was 2 hours damn well spent!

I was pretty much on the edge of my seat throughout.

As Steve says, it was interesting to see the way each of the characters has gone through subtle (and not so subtle) changes since last season, especially Lee, Kara and Sol. Again like Steve, I am waiting to see how long Kara can keep this charade up. At least I hope it is all an act :blink:

Fantastic!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Great start to the season wasn't it? :thumbsup:

I'd just started asking myself how long I thought Kara might keep up the charade, when she went and skewered the little f*cker! :lol:

Of all the physical changes to the characters, to indicate the passage of 12/18 months, I thought it was a little harsh on Lee, they obviously gave Jamie Bamber a fat suit FFS! :lol:

Can't wait to see how Adama and co liberate New Caprica.

For most of the episode Dean Stockwell just got to lay there :lol: I'm sure Al would be proud! :lol:

Wow!

That was some of the best television I've seen in a while. Well written, acted and paced.

I have to say, I was shocked by the tactics of Col. Tigh and the resistance, but it was interesting that the writers took the time to show both sides of the argument, for and against suicide bombings.

The act was neither glorified, or condemned, it was done in a matter of fact way, that added (IMO) to the horror of the event. Though, I'm not sure if tying into the events in the webisodes was a good thing or not, the casual viewer, who hadn't seen the webisodes wouldn't know the full reasons for Duck's actions, and reasoning behind them.

As for episode 2...

Wow again.

The cliffhanger was brilliant, and a little unexpected when it arrived, I thought the Cylons wanted a public execution :unsure: :unsure: Not a driven out to the middle of nowhere execution :ponder:

I can't wait for next weeks :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I watched the webisodes last night. Can't say they really added anything that wasn't explained in one way or another during these episodes. I'm glad I didn't watch them beforehand, actually, because I think they would have detracted from the feeling of being off-balance that I had during the first episode, which was one of the things I really liked about it :thumbsup:

:lol: I thought that, too. I half expected him to start chomping on a cigar and slagging off Ziggy and Gushie at any moment :lol:

Great start! :thumbsup:

They've managed to paint such a bleak picture of New Caprica as a dystopia. The show is darker than it ever was.

It was interesting to find out that the original No. 6 and Boomer were responsible for their return. They had clearly managed to convince all the others to return with them. The other models want something else by the looks of it though.

The show is also more topical that before imo. Clear parallel to current affairs and the state of the Middle East, most notably Iraq. Gives you a better idea of the producers think of current US foreign policy. I don't know whether this will serve the show or not, but two episodes in and it has made some riveting TV.

Bit late to the party but WOW great start to the season.

Not sure whether the webisodes added anything that wasn't covered adequately in these eps, with the exception possibly of Duck's motivation for being the first bomber.

Bit of an aside, but now we know the faces of 7 of the humanoid Cylons. The last two have been very well known Guest Stars, I wonder if that's set a trend for the remaining 5 :ermm:

I do not know what to make of it all. I have only watched Occupation so far so I am trying to remain unspoiled.

What the hell are they trying to do to Kara? Make her embrace some kind of Cylon Stepford Wives existence? I watched it feeling completely baffled.

I noticed some of the camera angles were 'angled' which are supposed to suggest 'madness' in movie language but I wondered whether they are going too far. I always liked S1 and S2 having such a relentless story logic to them even though it is all insane.

I am a bit puzzled as to what the 'plan' is that is shown in the credits each week. I wonder how ruthlessly plotted it all is. I hope they are not making it all up as they go along. sk

I watched Precipice on Saturday and found it truly gripping.

There seemed to be almost a studied neutrality and matter of factness about extreme resistance against totalitarian regimes(both episodes). I really liked that the viewer was left to make their own mind up about the use of force.(I always think of The Communist Manifesto as one extreme and Locke's genius thought experiment as a less extreme example) This was television that thankfully avoided the Buffy disaster that was Wrecked ie pathetic moralising was ruthlessly excluded from the proceedings. The viewer could still make some kind of determination. I am influenced by Nietzsche's genius philosophy about the 'mass psychology of fascism'(though he does not use that language) so I am a bit sceptical about extremism.

The problem here is that so much is on the line it is easy to see how absolutist responses may seem called for.

The cliffhanger left things a little ambiguous. As one of the others(?) mentioned the drive-people-in-trucks-then-shoot-them course of action did seem a lot like The Great Escape.

Is anyone else a little baffled as to how the psychology of the various models interact? Is that the right word? ie Does every Sharon and No6 now have altruistic and benevolent feelings toward the colonists? I found that all a bit baffling. Does each model share a collective soul in some sense?

I suppose Sharon, who has just been given a battlefield commision, seems to be following her own path. I suppose if she was killed all her personality would be downloaded into the next Sharon. Does this mean Adama would have a mole inside the Cylon collective or would Sharon's personality be downloaded into an obedient Cylon body instantly making her a liability? sk