JMS's pitch for Star Trek

Personally I like the idea, although I think he's awfully naive if he thinks all Star Trek fans will love it - just look at the outcry to the Abrams film idea - if he thinks an alternative Trek universe (cause it works in the comics) will be loved I think he would be in for a surprise....

Interesting. Very interesting.

Personally, I'd watch it. I've never had any doubts that JMS Trek would be something worth seeing, and something that would put Trek back on Trek.

He does however, IMO, underestimate the fan reaction to any attempt to replace the original crew. Further to that, who would you ever get to play them?

Given JMS's history with Paramount re Trek, I'd be interested to see, when it does eventually come back, just how much of this treatment actually turns up in the new series!

I like it. A lot.

Sadly, I can't see it ever happening. JMS and BZ are spot on in pointing out the problems within the franchise, and they've come up with a bold and imaginative way of sorting things out.

Personally, I love the Trek universe, it's bold and rich, and there are a lot of stories out there waiting to be told. It would be a shame to see things vanish, as seems possible at the moment. I'm as big a fan of Trek as anyone, and I love the Original Series. But we've had 10 Doctor Who's, 6 James Bonds (I think) and, as mentioned in the treatment, wildy varying Supermen. Why the hell shouldn't a new Kirk, Spock and McCoy w**k?

I think it would w**k, but as Phillip and James have both mentioned, the big obstacle would be the intransigent fan base.

Who would play Kirk, Spock and McCoy? Good question... maybe one for another thread!

So we can safely assume then, that the next Trek series will be based around a quest to track down the aliens that seeded the Human race, and the other major species, (that we learned about in the TNG episode whose title I've forgotten) in much the same way that DS9 was set aboard a space station full of potentially conflicting races.

A big :thumbsup: for the idea from me anyway, for what it's worth!

Andrew :yahoo:

I think, as far as the casting of Kirk, Spock and McCoy goes, you'd have to go down the route of relatively unknown actors. With the situation as it would be, you wouldn't wany any additional baggage bought to the role.

The only problem is that Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley are every bit as iconic with Star Trek fans as Kirk, Spock, McCoy and the Enterprise are.


As I said earlier, I'd absolutely love this to be the way they eventually go. Even after only 12 months Star Trek is sadly missed. Vic and I have just started a complete DS9 rewatch, and I'm picking the reissued TNG sets up as well. It's been that long since I've seen these episodes now (especially the TNG ones) that it's almost like coming to the series afresh. I'm realising all over again just how brilliant Star Trek could be, and in fact was before Berman and Braga twisted it into the version we ultimately finished with in Voyager and Enterprise.

I think the new movie is going to prove to be crucial in the future of Star Trek. We won't get a series before that movie's out, and the performance at the box office will probably either spur Paramount on to say "It's a success, quick get a new series in development", or "It bombed, we'll trry again in 5/10 years".

Incidentally, as anyone else heard anything more about this project that JMS said he'd signed up to last year? Wasn't it supposed to start airing this September/october? Or was it the season after this next one?

Interesting :ponder:

I like the enthusiam the proposal contains and the willingness to try something different but would have been far happier if they'd come up with something new, as opposed to re-hashing what's gone before. Plus the whole 'mysterious bunch of ancients' thing sits badly as it's too close to B5.

I'd definately still watch it but I'd be starting off from a skeptical point of view.

Of course I'm still p*ssed off that Enterprise turned out to be such mind numbing drivel and not the 'Birth of the federation' series that I wanted it to be :lol:

Answered my own question;

Taken from JMS News;

Must admit, as I was reading the outline for the pilot episode I sat thinking "What? Kirk, Bones and Spock go to Z'ha'dum?!?!?!?" :lol:

See, they had success right there in front of them. All's they had to do was grab it. Romulan war, birth of the Federation etc etc, and instead they come up with a temporal cold war to bypass it all :rolleyes:

Fcukwits :rolleyes:

:o

You agreed with me :lol: ;)

Worst bit about Enterpirse was that it's largely screwed it up for anyone else to do it properly <_<

Unless someone submits a presentation whereby the first 20 mins or so of the pilot explains what twats B&B were and that Enterprise didn't happen, please ignore etc. That might w**k :ponder:

Enterprise was an aberration. It never happened. That should be the official stance.

All this agreeing with Dave is taking it's toll on me now, I'm off for a lie down.......:lol:

You should take my stance and never agree with him on principle ;) :lol:

After watching several episodes of Star Trek during Sci Fi's blitz over the weekend I have to say I love this idea. It's a shame that so many fans would fight against it. Much as I love TNG and enjoyed, to one degree or another, the other spin-offs, whenever I watch the old episodes I end up thinking that the original will always be the best (my opinion!). If they did it right it could've been brilliant. So many stories left untold...

A slight aside: it grates on me that I have to qualify Star Trek by calling it The Original Series or TOS, much as I hate having to call Star Wars by its new moniker, Episode IV: A New Hope. Tosh. It's Star Trek. They should bring back the original uniforms too! :snooty: :lol: