Title: Caprica
Description: Galactica spin off
Bakhesh - April 27, 2006 08:35 AM (GMT)
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'CAPRICA'
From executive producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick ('Battlestar Galactica'), writer Remi Aubuchon ('24') and NBC Universal Television Studio, this new series is set over a half a century before the events that play out in 'Battlestar Galactica.' The people of the Twelve Colonies are at peace and living in a society not unlike our own, but where high-technology has changed the lives of virtually everyone for the better. But a startling breakthrough in robotics is about to occur, one that will bring to life the age-old dream of marrying artificial intelligence with a mechanical body to create the first living robot - a Cylon. Following the lives of two families, the Graystones and the Adamas (the family of William Adama, who will one day become the commander of the 'Battlestar Galactica') 'Caprica' weaves corporate intrigue, techno-action and sexual politics into television's first science fiction family saga. |
From AICN.
Sounds a little cheesy, but if its from the same team as BSG, its bound to be good.
goth willow fan - April 27, 2006 08:52 AM (GMT)
Do we really need a "How they got there" series?
Bakhesh - April 27, 2006 08:57 AM (GMT)
I think a whole series might be overkill. I'd have thought a miniseries that shows the first cylon war would be better.
rob - April 27, 2006 10:04 AM (GMT)
Might be good, all depends on who's in it :huh:
Crichton Kicks - April 27, 2006 05:43 PM (GMT)
I love BSG, but I have to admit, this pisses me off.
We don't need this. A mini series, or a couple of flashback episodes yes, but a series? C'mon! Please tell me how this is a better idea than making a new series of Firefly/Serenity.........?? :rolleyes:
Bakhesh - April 28, 2006 08:28 AM (GMT)
True enough. You've just reminded me that Farscape was cancelled to make way for BSG.
I just wish sci-fi directors would get past the idea of prequels in general. I'm just sick of them now. They never have the impact that 'normal' series do, as you know in advance whats going to happen.
rob - April 28, 2006 12:33 PM (GMT)
Angel has been the only truly great spin-off imo, surpassing its predecessor.
Bakhesh - April 28, 2006 01:15 PM (GMT)
DS9? Better than TNG if you ask me.
Crichton Kicks - April 28, 2006 06:27 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Bakhesh @ Apr 28 2006, 02:15 PM) |
| DS9? Better than TNG if you ask me. |
Seconded, DS9 was even better than TNG :thumbsup:
Agree with Rob in that Angel was better than Buffy though.
willowroolz - May 2, 2006 10:07 AM (GMT)
Oh dear, there really is no need, is there? Like you've said, a mini series/tv movie might have been a better idea. They could have at least waited until BSG had finished - running them at the same time is where things tend towards overkill, imo.
I'm going to play devil's advocate and stick up for TNG and Buffy, cos I wasn't as keen on either DS9 or Angel :ph43r: :lol:
Crichton Kicks - May 2, 2006 10:48 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 2 2006, 11:07 AM) |
| I wasn't as keen on either DS9 or Angel :ph43r: :lol: |
Heathen....... :p
willowroolz - May 2, 2006 10:56 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 2 2006, 11:48 AM) |
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 2 2006, 11:07 AM) | | I wasn't as keen on either DS9 or Angel :ph43r: :lol: |
Heathen....... :p
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You know me so well :lol:
Dan Brown - May 21, 2006 04:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (rob @ Apr 28 2006, 12:33 PM) |
| Angel has been the only truly great spin-off imo, surpassing its predecessor. |
The best spin-off award surely must go to Frasier, anyone???
Crichton Kicks - May 21, 2006 09:41 PM (GMT)
^^ Overall, without doubt. Speaking in terms of sci-fi/fantasy though, Angel and DS9 are the best spinoffs to date. IMO :)
star_fury - May 22, 2006 12:07 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ Apr 28 2006, 06:27 PM) |
| QUOTE (Bakhesh @ Apr 28 2006, 02:15 PM) | | DS9? Better than TNG if you ask me. |
Seconded, DS9 was even better than TNG :thumbsup:
Agree with Rob in that Angel was better than Buffy though.
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Thirded DS9 is better than TNG...
BUT Buffy is better than Angel.
I'm also unsure about this prequel especially so soon. Generally though spinoffs or other series in production at the same time reduces the quality of the original series. eg Buffy, angel, firefly. with each new series Joss had less time for the other series and in the end buffy & angel suffered. or Alias suffered as JJ Abrams moved on to make various pilots & Lost...how well will Lost do when it's creators move on to movies?
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| True enough. You've just reminded me that Farscape was cancelled to make way for BSG. |
Farscape could've finished it's run & more before BSG. I think Stargate's the culprit reponsible for Farscapes demise ,that & the idea of the spinoff Atlantis. :(
goth willow fan - May 22, 2006 12:13 PM (GMT)
The financing the 8th season of Stargate was the prime reason for the cancelation of Farscape, not BSG.
willowroolz - May 22, 2006 12:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (goth willow fan @ May 22 2006, 01:13 PM) |
| The financing the 8th season of Stargate was the prime reason for the cancelation of Farscape, not BSG. |
Frelling, fracking, bloody Stargate <_< :ph43r:
I'm not bitter, of course :innocent: :lol:
Bill The Bloodless - May 22, 2006 12:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (goth willow fan @ May 22 2006, 01:13 PM) |
| The financing the 8th season of Stargate was the prime reason for the cancelation of Farscape, not BSG. |
Stargate can't cost that much can it? Every time I've tried to watch an ep it seems to be the same one.
And the best spin-off has to be Joey. ;)
willowroolz - May 22, 2006 12:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Bill The Bloodless @ May 22 2006, 01:48 PM) |
| QUOTE (goth willow fan @ May 22 2006, 01:13 PM) | | The financing the 8th season of Stargate was the prime reason for the cancelation of Farscape, not BSG. |
Stargate can't cost that much can it? Every time I've tried to watch an ep it seems to be the same one.
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I think it was a case of Farscape costing too much per episode plus the weight of numbers in viewers that Stargate brought with it to Sci Fi that finally swayed the decision <_<
:lmao: @ the comment about Joey
star_fury - May 22, 2006 01:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 22 2006, 12:52 PM) |
| QUOTE (Bill The Bloodless @ May 22 2006, 01:48 PM) | | QUOTE (goth willow fan @ May 22 2006, 01:13 PM) | | The financing the 8th season of Stargate was the prime reason for the cancelation of Farscape, not BSG. |
Stargate can't cost that much can it? Every time I've tried to watch an ep it seems to be the same one.
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I think it was a case of Farscape costing too much per episode plus the weight of numbers in viewers that Stargate brought with it to Sci Fi that finally swayed the decision <_<
:lmao: @ the comment about Joey
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it's sad really that the scifi channel, of all channels, would cancel the better program in favour of mediocraty(sp?) <_<
and what's worse I wouldn't be surprised if it made an 11th or more seasons. <_< :yawn: they should've quit while they were ahead after s6.
Dan Brown - May 22, 2006 01:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (star_fury @ May 22 2006, 01:24 PM) |
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 22 2006, 12:52 PM) | | QUOTE (Bill The Bloodless @ May 22 2006, 01:48 PM) | | QUOTE (goth willow fan @ May 22 2006, 01:13 PM) | | The financing the 8th season of Stargate was the prime reason for the cancelation of Farscape, not BSG. |
Stargate can't cost that much can it? Every time I've tried to watch an ep it seems to be the same one.
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I think it was a case of Farscape costing too much per episode plus the weight of numbers in viewers that Stargate brought with it to Sci Fi that finally swayed the decision <_<
:lmao: @ the comment about Joey
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it's sad really that the scifi channel, of all channels, would cancel the better program in favour of mediocraty(sp?) <_<
and what's worse I wouldn't be surprised if it made an 11th or more seasons. <_< :yawn: they should've quit while they were ahead after s6.
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I'm enjoying it after it became Stargate: FARSCAPE.......
Crichton Kicks - May 22, 2006 02:12 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (star_fury @ May 22 2006, 02:24 PM) |
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 22 2006, 12:52 PM) | | QUOTE (Bill The Bloodless @ May 22 2006, 01:48 PM) | | QUOTE (goth willow fan @ May 22 2006, 01:13 PM) | | The financing the 8th season of Stargate was the prime reason for the cancelation of Farscape, not BSG. |
Stargate can't cost that much can it? Every time I've tried to watch an ep it seems to be the same one.
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I think it was a case of Farscape costing too much per episode plus the weight of numbers in viewers that Stargate brought with it to Sci Fi that finally swayed the decision <_<
:lmao: @ the comment about Joey
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it's sad really that the scifi channel, of all channels, would cancel the better program in favour of mediocraty(sp?) <_<
and what's worse I wouldn't be surprised if it made an 11th or more seasons. <_< :yawn: they should've quit while they were ahead after s6.
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There's an interesting piece over at Gateworld, where they're speaking to Brad Wright, I think it was, and the issue of how long will SG1 continue came up. Wright replied that with the recent cast changes there's no reason why it can't go on for another ten years or so. Doesn't look like it's going anywhere just yet, especially considering that the viewership's staying pretty stable.
Wright also mentioned that they're continuing to kick around ideas around a SG1 movie that would potentially dovetail into a second spinoff series of it's own. Oh dear God he's got 'Dick-Wolfitis' :rolleyes: :lol:
On the point of Farscape Vs Stargate, I think Sci-Fi were looking at it from a longevity point of view. Farscape had what another season left when they cancelled it? Whereas Stargate seems to go on forever :rolleyes:
Come to think of it, I think this year is the first time since about season 5 of SG1 that they aren't saying 'this is the last year'.
willowroolz - May 22, 2006 02:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 03:12 PM) |
| Farscape had what another season left when they cancelled it? |
Yeah, they'd been given the go ahead for season 5 and were thinking of a 6th and final year.
Crichton Kicks - May 22, 2006 02:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 22 2006, 03:16 PM) |
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 03:12 PM) | | Farscape had what another season left when they cancelled it? |
Yeah, they'd been given the go ahead for season 5 and were thinking of a 6th and final year.
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Sci-Fi obviously took quantity over quality. Not that Stargate's bad, it's just not great IMO.
2 more seasons of Farscape or a load more seasons of SG1, countless spinoffs and eventual movies as well. Not much of a choice for bean-counters..... :rolleyes:
star_fury - May 22, 2006 02:24 PM (GMT)
I like the infusion of new blood but I've still seen nothing worth extending SG1 for. It just goes on & on like a soap. I'd love to be wrong but SG1 is just going to keep going downhill. I hope they can improve the writing & storys IF it has to drag on.
willowroolz - May 22, 2006 02:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 03:24 PM) |
| Not much of a choice for bean-counters..... :rolleyes: |
Yeah, that's a battle Crichton and co just couldn't win :tear:
I am over it. Honestly :lol:
Crichton Kicks - May 22, 2006 02:28 PM (GMT)
Bringing Ben Browder, and now Claudia Black onto the show is inspired, but for my money they've not got the balance of the cast right. Browder's great, but Mitchell's not, and he certainly doesn't fill the void left by O'Neil's absence.
The central arc this year doesn't look like it's helped. Personally, I like the Ori arc, but a lot of people have been underwhelmed with it. And the 'ancients' storyline seems to be bemusing people as well. We've had Egypian deities, and Norse Gods, now we get the legend of King Arthur thrown into the mix for good measure??
Crichton Kicks - May 22, 2006 02:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 22 2006, 03:26 PM) |
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 03:24 PM) | | Not much of a choice for bean-counters..... :rolleyes: |
Yeah, that's a battle Crichton and co just couldn't win :tear:
I am over it. Honestly :lol:
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Look on the bright side. At least you got a movie :)
Farscape and Firefly aside, there are countless series out there that never got that chance to finish their story.
Which reminds me, I still haven't finished Farscape...... :ph43r:
star_fury - May 22, 2006 02:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 02:24 PM) |
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 22 2006, 03:16 PM) | | QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 03:12 PM) | | Farscape had what another season left when they cancelled it? |
Yeah, they'd been given the go ahead for season 5 and were thinking of a 6th and final year.
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Sci-Fi obviously took quantity over quality. Not that Stargate's bad, it's just not great IMO.
2 more seasons of Farscape or a load more seasons of SG1, countless spinoffs and eventual movies as well. Not much of a choice for bean-counters..... :rolleyes:
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They should've gone for quality after all isn't that theyre mandate to make quality?
going OT...Haven't Scifi UK started preproduction of a new scifi series? :unsure:
willowroolz - May 22, 2006 02:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 03:29 PM) |
| Farscape and Firefly aside, there are countless series out there that never got that chance to finish their story. |
This is very true, and a fine send off it was too :thumbsup:
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| Which reminds me, I still haven't finished Farscape...... :ph43r: |
Don't think this has gone unnoticed, young man :snooty:
:lol:
Crichton Kicks - May 22, 2006 02:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (star_fury @ May 22 2006, 03:29 PM) |
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 02:24 PM) | | QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 22 2006, 03:16 PM) | | QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 03:12 PM) | | Farscape had what another season left when they cancelled it? |
Yeah, they'd been given the go ahead for season 5 and were thinking of a 6th and final year.
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Sci-Fi obviously took quantity over quality. Not that Stargate's bad, it's just not great IMO.
2 more seasons of Farscape or a load more seasons of SG1, countless spinoffs and eventual movies as well. Not much of a choice for bean-counters..... :rolleyes:
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They should've gone for quality after all isn't that theyre mandate to make quality?
going OT...Haven't Scifi UK started preproduction of a new scifi series? :unsure:
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Ice Planet isn't it? Sounds promising.
I think I posted something about it on one of the other boards (other Drama I think).
The problem with Sci-Fi though, is that as far as they're concerned, SG is quality. These are the same people, don't forget, who think that an unnecessary spin off of BSG is preferable to continuing Firefly in some form :rolleyes:
star_fury - May 22, 2006 02:34 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 02:28 PM) |
Bringing Ben Browder, and now Claudia Black onto the show is inspired, but for my money they've not got the balance of the cast right. Browder's great, but Mitchell's not, and he certainly doesn't fill the void left by O'Neil's absence.
The central arc this year doesn't look like it's helped. Personally, I like the Ori arc, but a lot of people have been underwhelmed with it. And the 'ancients' storyline seems to be bemusing people as well. We've had Egypian deities, and Norse Gods, now we get the legend of King Arthur thrown into the mix for good measure?? |
I agree Ben's been wasted so far & the Oristory doesn't do anything for me personally...as for king Arthur/merlin /Ancients story :rolleyes:
Crichton Kicks - May 22, 2006 02:34 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 22 2006, 03:31 PM) |
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 03:29 PM) | | Farscape and Firefly aside, there are countless series out there that never got that chance to finish their story. |
This is very true, and a fine send off it was too :thumbsup:
| QUOTE | | Which reminds me, I still haven't finished Farscape...... :ph43r: |
Don't think this has gone unnoticed, young man :snooty:
:lol:
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It was that slow start to season 4 that did me. I'm all about momentum when I'm watching something, and that kind of took the wind out of my sails :(
Still, I've got them all lined up to watch at some point, and with the summer approaching and everything coming to a halt in the States I might actually get the time to get through them.
Although, there is the little matter of some trivial football tournament....... :shrug: :lol:
Crichton Kicks - May 22, 2006 02:35 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (star_fury @ May 22 2006, 03:34 PM) |
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 02:28 PM) | Bringing Ben Browder, and now Claudia Black onto the show is inspired, but for my money they've not got the balance of the cast right. Browder's great, but Mitchell's not, and he certainly doesn't fill the void left by O'Neil's absence.
The central arc this year doesn't look like it's helped. Personally, I like the Ori arc, but a lot of people have been underwhelmed with it. And the 'ancients' storyline seems to be bemusing people as well. We've had Egypian deities, and Norse Gods, now we get the legend of King Arthur thrown into the mix for good measure?? |
I agree Ben's been wasted so far & the Oristory doesn't do anything for me personally...as for king Arthur/merlin /Ancients story :rolleyes:
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I'm still waiting for the episode where King Arthur turns up and goes on a 'jolly boys' with Ra and Thor...... :rolleyes:
star_fury - May 22, 2006 02:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 02:32 PM) |
| QUOTE (star_fury @ May 22 2006, 03:29 PM) | | QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 02:24 PM) | | QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 22 2006, 03:16 PM) | | QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 03:12 PM) | | Farscape had what another season left when they cancelled it? |
Yeah, they'd been given the go ahead for season 5 and were thinking of a 6th and final year.
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Sci-Fi obviously took quantity over quality. Not that Stargate's bad, it's just not great IMO.
2 more seasons of Farscape or a load more seasons of SG1, countless spinoffs and eventual movies as well. Not much of a choice for bean-counters..... :rolleyes:
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They should've gone for quality after all isn't that theyre mandate to make quality?
going OT...Haven't Scifi UK started preproduction of a new scifi series? :unsure:
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Ice Planet isn't it? Sounds promising.
I think I posted something about it on one of the other boards (other Drama I think).
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Ice planet, that's it, yeah it sounds promising. Sorry I mustve missed your thread :(
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| The problem with Sci-Fi though, is that as far as they're concerned, SG is quality. These are the same people, don't forget, who think that an unnecessary spin off of BSG is preferable to continuing Firefly in some form :rolleyes: |
It's ridiculus state of affairs. Surely more people would rather see Firefly anyway, wouldn't they? :unsure:
willowroolz - May 22, 2006 02:42 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 03:34 PM) |
| It was that slow start to season 4 that did me. I'm all about momentum when I'm watching something, and that kind of took the wind out of my sails :( |
Don't let it beat you - the second half (to use a football analogy :lol: ) is top class. And you have to see The Peacekeeper Wars ;)
star_fury - May 22, 2006 02:47 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 22 2006, 02:42 PM) |
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ May 22 2006, 03:34 PM) | | It was that slow start to season 4 that did me. I'm all about momentum when I'm watching something, and that kind of took the wind out of my sails :( |
Don't let it beat you - the second half (to use a football analogy :lol: ) is top class. And you have to see The Peacekeeper Wars ;)
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I'll second that although PK wars, for me, never reached the same high levels as the seies did.
Dan Brown - May 22, 2006 04:46 PM (GMT)
Hey I like Stargate, granted I have yet to see seasons 8 and 9.....
I like Farscape too, but the point is Farscape was cancelled....a afaik....they had been given a 13 episode 5th season, but the producers rejected it...opting for a fan war to get Sci-fi to grant them a whole season.....which failed so, but they eventually got the mini to wrap up the story.....rejecting the 13 episode 5th season was a mistake.....
Stargate is a good balance....and I like it for that its got heaps of action, sci-fi, and some episodes are thought provoking, sad and funny...it is a good show maybe not a brilliant as Farscape but a safe bet for viewers....
Farscape was quirky, wierd etc....not a safe bet for viewership....and it had lost viewers...
It got 4 seasons and a mini series which is good for any programme so be happy....
willowroolz - May 23, 2006 07:19 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dan Brown @ May 22 2006, 05:46 PM) |
| rejecting the 13 episode 5th season was a mistake..... |
Can't agree with you there.
They talked about a shortened season on a severely reduced budget which effectively meant that they couldn't continue to make the series to the quality they wanted. Under those circumstances they were completely right to withdraw and seek other means, rather than compromise their vision for the show.
Anyway, isn't this the BSG board? :ponder:
Dan Brown - May 23, 2006 01:20 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ May 23 2006, 07:19 AM) |
| QUOTE (Dan Brown @ May 22 2006, 05:46 PM) | | rejecting the 13 episode 5th season was a mistake..... |
Can't agree with you there.
They talked about a shortened season on a severely reduced budget which effectively meant that they couldn't continue to make the series to the quality they wanted. Under those circumstances they were completely right to withdraw and seek other means, rather than compromise their vision for the show.
Anyway, isn't this the BSG board? :ponder:
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Actually I didn't know about the reduced budget....so maybe it wasn't a mistake....anyway we got the ending and thats that now back to BSG.....