Title: 7x25/26
Description: What You Leave Behind Pts 1 & 2
Hippy - March 15, 2006 02:39 PM (GMT)
1) Stardate: Unknown Sisko launches the Federation/Klingon/Romulan attack against the Dominion on Cardassia. Kira, Damar and Garak destroy a power supply on Cardassia as the Cardassian population rises against the Dominion. Kai Winn asks Gul Dukat to join her in releasing the Pah-wraiths from the Fire Caves. Bashir and Ezri spend the night together on the eve of the war. The Founder Leader orders the execution of Damar, Garak and Kira after Jem'Hadar forces capture them; however, Cardassian forces free them. Meanwhile, on Bajor, Kai Winn recites from the Kosst Amojan in an attempt to release the Pah-wraiths.
2) Stardate: Unknown The war turns in favour of the Federation/Klingon/Romulan forces as the Cardassians change sides mid-battle. In retaliation, the Founder Leader orders the extermination of the Cardassian race. Kira, Garak and Damar take over the Dominion briefing room, where Garak kills Weyoun and Kira hold the Founder Leader at gunpoint, ordering her to stop the war and surrender. Kira contacts Sisko, who orders Odo to link with the Founder Leader. He does so, and cures her of the virus that has ravaged her people. In light of this event, she calls a cease-fire. Odo tells Kira that he is returning to his homeworld. In the Fire Caves on Bajor, Kai Winn offers Dukat as a sacrifice to the Pah-wraiths. With the signing of the surrender documents, the war officially ends. Later, O'Brien announces that he is returning to Earth with his family to teach at Starfleet Academy, Odo makes plans to return to his homeworld to heal the other Founders, and Worf is appointed Federation Ambassador to Kronos. Sisko has a vision of the Sarah Prophet, who instructs him to go to the Fire Caves, where he encounters a possessed Gul Dukat, and a recently sacrificed Kai Winn. Sisko fights with Dukat, but during the struggle, Sisko, Dukat and the Kosst Amojan plunge into the abyss. Sisko awakens to learn that he has become a prophet, the Pah-wraiths have been returned to the Fire Caves, and his destiny is now fulfilled. He contacts Kasidy through a vision telling her that he will return one day. Jake is left to deal with his father's 'evolution,' Kira is placed in command of Deep Space Nine, Ezri and Bashir plan a life together, and Kira comforts a now fatherless Jake.
Hippy - March 19, 2006 11:49 AM (GMT)
Probably my favourite of the Star Trek endings and a great finale to the series :thumbsup:
Can't really think of too much to add that isn't in the summary tbh. As usual Louise Fletcher is brilliant as Winn and it's nice to see her endure a painful death :lol:
Love the flash backs for the characters, it's always weird seeing how young Jake was at the start of the show.
Top ending :)
Crichton Kicks - April 27, 2006 05:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Hippy @ Mar 19 2006, 12:49 PM) |
Probably my favourite of the Star Trek endings and a great finale to the series :thumbsup:
Can't really think of too much to add that isn't in the summary tbh. As usual Louise Fletcher is brilliant as Winn and it's nice to see her endure a painful death :lol:
Love the flash backs for the characters, it's always weird seeing how young Jake was at the start of the show.
Top ending :) |
This was Star Trek's last great hurrah for me.
The perfect end to, what for me, still remains, Star Trek's finest incarnation. The culmination of arcs both plot and personal, with the Dominion war and the Prophets/Pah'Wraiths stories seen through to conclusion, and a number of characters reaching their natural conclusion.
I have to say that at the beginning of the series, I really didn't care much for Avery Brooks/Ben Sisko, and even less so for the Emissary storyline. By this point, I was completely won over by both. I know Brooks often takes criticism for his 'wooden' style, but I just can't see it. Michael O'Hare on B5 was wooden, clearly wooden. Seeing Brooks outside of the role of Sisko, it's just his style, and unlike O'Hare's performance as Sinclair, Brook's Sisko was completely captivating.
DS9 had such a great strength in it's cast, and not just the principle players. Just look at the supporting cast; Rom, Nog, Weyoun, Morn, Garak, Damar, Admiral Ross, Gowron, Dukat, Kai Winn, Leeta, etc, etc, etc. A good number of those 'peripheral/supporting' characters were better developed than most of the Voyager principle cast!
Re: the flashback montage, absolutely brilliant. For sheer emotion I don't think you'll ever top B5's final 'leaving the station' scenes, but this comes as close as anything probably ever will. DS9 achieved the emotional impact here, in a few minutes, what Enterprise completely failed to do in it's entire final episode.
Ira Behr and the rest of the writing/production staff are absolute legends of the Trek universe, as revered as Berman/Braga are despised.
willowroolz - January 2, 2008 10:34 AM (GMT)
The previous couple of episodes were truly dire, imo, so this was better than it had a right to be, that's for sure.
Apart from Vic Fontaine <_<
And Winn. Can't agree with Dave on that one, Louise Fletcher was awful. Tbh, the whole Dukat/Winn storyline just made me want to throw things at the tv, not just in this episode :sleeping:
It was nice to see some action at last. I got annoyed previously with how quickly the Defiant was dealt with, and then more annoyed that it was replaced so quickly - Starfleet has a habit of doing that :rolleyes: At least here we finally got to see a prolonged battle, rather than endless talking heads.
I'm still amused about how much input Sisko had to the war effort, and how Admiral Ross seemed to be taking his lead all the time. One of the things that always set B5 apart, for me, was the way that both Sinclair and Sheridan railed against what they were being told to do by the powers that be until, finally, the latter snapped. On DS9 it felt like a mere Captain was leading such an all-encompassing war effort when he was just a cog in a huge machine, which felt wrong.
Probably just my lack of caring for or connection with the characters, but I preferred All Good Things. The ending here didn't affect me the way that did. With TNG I felt like I was saying goodbye to old friends. Here I couldn't wait to see the back of them. The last half hour seemed to drag on for aaaages. It was like the multiple false endings of Return Of The King - just bring the credits up already! :lol: It was kind of nice, though. I can't think of many series that have had the chance to say goodbye to their characters in such a way, even if I didn't particularly like any of them :)
Although I have to say it took right up until the final episode for me not to want to kill Kira. Seven seasons and this was only episode that I liked her :lol:
It felt like a real struggle for the last couple of seasons, but I'm glad I've finally seen it through to the end :)
Whatever Dave has tried to tell me, B5 was about a zillion times better :ph43r:
Crichton Kicks - January 2, 2008 10:47 AM (GMT)
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| Whatever Dave has tried to tell me, B5 was about a zillion times better. |
DS9 is fine for what it is. Essentially, a more sanitised version of B5. B5-lite if you will.
Seasons 6 and 7 are probably my favourite time from the show, but going up against Seasons 2-4 of B5, there's no comparison.
A really good point re: Sisko. He's probably my favourite character on the show, but the whole situation of his involvment in the Shadow, <ahem>, sorry, Dominion war, was completely unrealistic. Yes, he's the command officer on the scene, but even so, his expertise in the area should form just part of the command process rather than shaping almost all fronts of an interstellar war! :rolleyes:
I enjoyed the finale, What You Leave Behind. I particularly liked it when Sisko <cough, Sheridan> went to stay with the Prophets <cough, First Ones>..... :lol:
Hippy - January 2, 2008 03:07 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Crichton Kicks @ Jan 2 2008, 11:47 AM) |
| QUOTE | | Whatever Dave has tried to tell me, B5 was about a zillion times better. |
DS9 is fine for what it is. Essentially, a more sanitised version of B5. B5-lite if you will.
Seasons 6 and 7 are probably my favourite time from the show, but going up against Seasons 2-4 of B5, there's no comparison.
A really good point re: Sisko. He's probably my favourite character on the show, but the whole situation of his involvment in the Shadow, <ahem>, sorry, Dominion war, was completely unrealistic. Yes, he's the command officer on the scene, but even so, his expertise in the area should form just part of the command process rather than shaping almost all fronts of an interstellar war! :rolleyes:
I enjoyed the finale, What You Leave Behind. I particularly liked it when Sisko <cough, Sheridan> went to stay with the Prophets <cough, First Ones>..... :lol:
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See Steve, I told you you'd love it :ph43r: :lol:
Edit: Hmmm not sure why I quoted all that, didn;t mean to :blush:
willowroolz - January 3, 2008 10:10 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Hippy @ Jan 2 2008, 03:07 PM) |
| See Steve, I told you you'd love it :ph43r: :lol: |
And - as usual - you were wrong :o :lol: