For those who are interested in Jonathan Ross's view on Serenity should watch film 2005 next week. At the end of this week he described something like 'failed TV show becomes film'. Now I don't like people describing it as a failed TV show, if it continues to be labelled as such who will go to see it at the cinema (its not a good selling point).

I hope somebody mentions the millions of DVD boxsets which have been sold of it..

And Jonathan better give it a good review...or else.... :devil:

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for good review from Jonathan Ross unless it's animated family film or something made by w**king Title he's not interested. I think he's :shit: at the job of reviewing films I still watch every week I like to see the new releases, I hate the way he discribed it as a failed tv show it which makes me think he's made is mind up already :devil:

I do like to hear what he has to say and he is right about films some of the time but to be honest he lost alot of credibility when he stated:

'One Of The Greatest Movies Ever Made'

What was the film: BATMAN FOREVER

In my opinion, :shit:

And if I recall correctly he didn't say that about the best Batman film. Batman Begins

:batman:

Jonathan Ross = Tw@t.

Fact.

You've got that right mate :lol:

That Batman Forever quote was Ross having a laugh. I read somewhere that he and Paul Gambicinni (Sp?) had a bet on who could get a quote on the poster which is why he said what he did. :)

You might not like Ross but you can't honestly believe he thinks Batman Forever was one of the greatest movies ever made ! :lol:

OK, a bit of balance...

He may like it- he is not a snob about films, he likes comic books, he likes action, he may well like this- the "failed TV show" is an obvious way to sum things up in half a sentence. Which is why they do it. But I didn't see the show so I don't know his tone.

I'm avoiding reviews because of the spoiler possibility.

BTW, would it be possible to have some kind of "reviews" thread up, so people can talk about the film with out give away topic headers? I'm probably not going to be able to see the film until the week after it has been released and I'm possibly not the only one.

Having said all that if he gives it a bad review I might have to kill him.

he better give a better mention than the last two film 2005 ... but i think he is more exited by king-kong, harry potter or narnia than serenity .............. let make him me wrong :ermm:

What he actually said was "Flop tv show becomes hit movie" ;)

Which it is. You're criticising him for telling the truth? Ok...

I'll be avoiding this too in case of spoilers :)

"Sewenity tells the stawy of Captain Malcolm Weynolds and the cwew of his spaceship, Sewenity, as they twy to discover what the mystewious men with hands of blue did to their cwewmate Wiver, all the while being chased by the evil and scawy Weavers..."

Sorry, I know it's bad to take the mick out of his speech impediment, but I couldn't wesist. I mean, resist :ph43r:

:lmao: how true :lmao:

it might also depend if his daughter(s) might be interested or not (but i doubt they are old enough .......... or are they? :ponder: )

IMO he is not good reviewer.
He cannot act the goon on his chat show like he does then expect us to take him seriously as a film critic. He tastes also don't seem to be diverse enough.
I wouldn't expect a good Serenity review from Ross and I won't be watching it either as he would more than likely give away plot details as a result of (what he would probably term as) the small fanbase.

Not really....I was criticising the fact that all the reviews I have heard have labelled the film as 'a film of a flop TV show'. Now what I was stating was that this is not good publicity for the show. Now if reviewers mentioned the millions of DVD boxsets and the huge following the show has received then this maybe would help the film be a success...but they are not mentioning that....

I would still be interested in the Film 2005 review if Barry Norman were the reviewer, but Ross isn't all bad.

He..... Uhm, erm, well he... :unsure:

Oh bugger he is a tw*t.

He liked Buffy that's all I can say in his favour. I remember he interviewed JW and had his tongue wedged so tightly up Joss' backside that it was painfull to watch. Bearing that in mind, he may yet give a good review :unsure: :unsure:

Oh and I second Smellyphagor's view about spoilery reviews. Maybe we could limit review talk to a spoiler thread.

Ross interviewed Joss and I didn't see it! Wail

Jonathon did say that he thought Serenity was excellent, so his review should be favourable.

Sorry, I didn't mean to start a spoliery thread...merely a thread to tell people about the review and if they wished to watch it they can and what people would think Ross would have to say about it.

I hope Ross doesn't give away too much in the review mind because ever though I don't want it to be spoiled, I won't be able not to watch the review....the other day I nearly picked up the novel to buy and read before the film but I convinced myself not to!

I'm surprised there was room for JR what with all the other Joss-ites residing up there ;)

I'm sure Joss flushed the editorial team of SFX out before the interview :lol:

Don't worry Daniel, I meant when the reviews started coming in that we should start a spoiler thread. Just letting people know that there's a review coming which could be spoilery isn't a spoiler, it's a warning. :D

You know, we get it that you don't like Joss, or students or the other things you love to disagree with people about...do you really need to harp on in the threads designed for them? :rolleyes:

Whilst i don't mind JR i have to agree with what TheHighlander (sorry cannot remember your name right now :blush: ) said about his taste in films not being diverse enough...i have a feeling his review will be complementory but won't encourage people to watch it :ermm:

If Joss manages to deliver the sort of witty and intelligent script he's capable of and which is so often lacking in hollywood blockbusters I'm sure Ross will really like it. And as Smellyphagor said he's into his comic's and the world of cult so I'd imagine Serenity would be right up his street.

TBH it would be nice if JR did give Serenity a good review as, like some of you have said, it may encourage non-firefly fans to go watch it, but whatever he says it won't change the minds of the true fans :thumbsup:

Of course Star Trek was a failed TV show as well.......

The student comments (which were meant jokingly) were made in The Bar - I apologise if that is a student only area.

As for not liking Joss - that's untrue. It's the sycophantic arse kissers that annoy me. FYI, I don't mind Firefly, parts of it were very good. What puts me off it are its OTT fans.

Surely this place would be extremely boring if everyone agreed?

Im not saying the film won't be a success, I'm just pointing out the JR's statement was correct :)

The sycophants are a necessary evil, they keep everything in balance and help negate the effects of people like Ronnie Bradley.

As for Firefly, it was pretty much dead on arrival, which is a shame given the eventual quality of the series. Not as good as Angel, but it could easily have become so had it lasted longer. IMO Buffy outstayed it's welcome by a good few years, a shame that Firefly then went the other way :rolleyes:

It was indeed. Just pointing out that doesn't always go against such movies though ;)

Although, there was Lost in Space :fear:

It also comes down to network advertising etc, big shame. It is now being nicely looked after by the Sci fi channel on both sides of the channel, shame it didn't start off there. :)

It was certainly unlucky to land on Fox. Given Fox's treatment of Dark Angel, John Doe, Futurama and Family Guy before it, Firefly's future was never really in doubt.

Given the success of Sci-Fi's 'Sci-Friday' line-ups it would have been interesting to see how Firefly would have performed.

Just out of interest, I know most people downloaded it, but what was the time difference between it airing in the US and over here? :)

I haven't downloaded it. As far as I know it premieres in the US tomorrow night. It's UK premiere is next Thursday so there's not much point.

Sorry I meant Firefly, not Serenity :)

Ah. In that case I'm not entirely sure. About six months I'd Guess. It had certainly been cancelled by the time it came over. Although I'm sure Sci-Fi UK premiered the last three episodes before Fox (or was it Sci-Fi US?) burnt them off Stateside

I don't think you did, the thought came to me while I was posting, don't worry.

I'm that sad I'm thinking of taping film review programmes etc so I can watch them after I've seen the film.

If you want to remain spoiler free I'd advise steering clear of reviews- SFX a few months ago contained a review which they said was spoiler free but actually contained a nasty spoiler.

I will probably avoid relevent web sites (here, whedonesque, a few others) from Oct 6 till after I've seen the film.

At the end of the day, who cares what critics like JR think? You pay your money and you make up your own mind. I've got no time for people who either say the film's going to be great or the film's going to be rubbish without even having seen it. I hope it's the former, but I'm quite prepared for the latter. I'm going to wait until next Thursday night to make up my mind :)

Yes and I totally agree, that people should make their own mind up and I will definately be making my own mind up about the film but the thing is there are alot of mindless people out in the world who can't make there own mind up about what to see at the cinema...therefore if the film is given bad reviews then the takings will be down and I for one want to see a Firefly Film Trilogy. :thumbsup:

If a movie is given universally bad reviews then it's more than likely that it deserves it. Nobody knows what JR or other critics are going to say about it yet. They might love it.

I think it could be just as damning that the film is being publicised as "From the creator of Buffy The Vampire Slayer". That sentence, more than any other, is guaranteed to put practically everyone I know off going to see the movie.

Agreed! My friends all refuse to go based on that line alone <_<. I might end up having to go on my own! :(