Why didn't th escoobies think of designing stakes that doubled up as crosses? By simply nailing an additional (but secure) piece of wood to a traditional stake, it could be turned into a cross? Double the power from one simply devise. Plus it would save space in Buffys' bag.

Any other ideas for things that would have come in handy?

But don't the crosses have to be blessed or something? :ermm:

Why didn't they think of using Angel's place (pre season 3) as a meeting place after so many demons cottoned on to the library as Scooby headquarters?

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Didn't Cordelia have a cross shaped stake in Eternity? Just checked and not Eternity but I am sure in one episode they had one. Maybe prophecy girl will know. sk

I never understood why the Council weren't more supportive, proactive nor generally helpful. I always thought it was a cpd.

It was a cpd, they couldn't be cast as villains if they were kind and helpful.

Why didn't the scoobies design a nice perfume/aftershave that was made mostly from holy water. They could have called it A Touch of Holywater or Eau de Font maybe. It would have been a great seller in Sunnydale. ;)

Ok, thick person here. What is a cpd?

CPD = Convenient plot device. :)

Thank you very much. Thought it was something like that but couldn't w**k out the words.

Didn't they do some time representing patriarchal (spelling?) society- and also as a reminder that people from Britian are stuffy, repressed and a bit sinister?

why didn't willow finish to w**k on her sun spell? (triangle) could have been handy against an army of uber vamp

Goo dthinking.

Another obvious one was mobile phones which are mentioned in the books but not until S7. Joss on his commentary for Lessons said that they didn't want to bring them in and had been avoiding it until the y couldn't hold it off any longer! Another CPD I think! Notice in Lessons how Buffy's mobile (or cellphone) appears and re-appears when she is in the school basement....

Why not design a gun that could use wooden bullets? (Faith says something about this in an episode of Angel) Buffy could have saved soooo much time :ermm:

Ooh, an excellent idea! No getting close and personal to these vamps anymore! Ah, maybe Buffy enjoyed getting up close and personal considering her track record............. :blush:

a mini flame thrower ........... very useful against a vampire gang

The problem with that is that the Council aren't villains- they are good guys who give the really good guys a bad name by being arrogant, obnoxious, tight-arsed patrician burocrats (admittedly employing undercompetent rent-a-thugs left over from the Get Carter extras pool.)
Making many villains far more attractive is just one excellent way of playing with our heads (and ethics.)

But I do like the idea of Eau du Font. It has great (wish I could think of a better word) potential.

a watergun with holy water :ponder:

Like on Chaos Bleeds! :lmao: The Game.

Why didn't the older ones get crosses tattooed on their neck... :shrug:


A wooden bullet gun is a good idea.

:lol: The water gun is my favourite weapon on Chaos Bleeds :lol: love the singe effect :lol:

My favourite weapon is the crossbow. I'm really good with it. :thumbsup:

:lol: Twirly spades always quite good too :lol:

Mind you Willow's fireballs are pretty cool :thumbsup:

I also like Willow's homing missile one. I can't remember what it is called. :lmao:

:lol: nor me, its something like the homing spell or something isn't it, I always end up using it by accident when I'm casting fireballs :lol:

Didnt Riley and his cronies have compressed air stake guns....seem to remember it from the end of Hush? :ponder:

Trouble is, plenty of other arteries to get at in that case. And there's always the fashion statement v. personal safety dilemma to consider, otherwise balaclavas would have been very in in Sunnydale...

Closing the cemetaries and giving discounts for cremations might have ment a very short series.... :ponder:

Killing Riley? :thumbsup:

That's a good one :thumbsup:

Riley was exactly the right idea just mishandled. Just as Buffy sometimes had trouble balancing her double life Riley too should have been shown as being struggling when it came to his double life. They did not bother doing that or doing that enough so he just ended up being impossibly smug which does not engender much sympathy from the audience. sk

Although it could be perceived that Riley didn't have to bother about his double life that he was so bland and boring, he didn't have a life outside of the Initiative. Most of the charactors lives were explored apart fom Riley. His friends were from the Initiative, his parents were only mildly mentioned, Maggie acted as a substiturte mother and the only outside relationship he had turned out to be with the slayer!! Wve when he left Sunnydale he married someone who was part of his mission.

I am not a writer so I do not know the exact answer as to how to have handled Riley. Doing something that was the complete opposite of Angel was the right idea. Maybe they could have shown him somehow struggling with the teaching or have Walsh telling him off for not doing the right thing. Some kind of vulnerability should have been manifest to avoid Wesley Crusher syndrome(ie deeply irritating).

I do realise your initial suggestion was intended as fun but what the writers had in mind always seemed to me to be the right idea. Personally I would rather kill Andrew. sk

I agree with the idea of making him completely different from Angel. The trouble is of course, which deep down is why I disliked Riley is that the fans were so into Buffy and Angel, anything that got close was instantly disliked. IMO this is why the producers did the right thing by exploring Spike and Buffy in s6 as by this point enough time had passed to allow Buffy and Angel to move on.

I think it is the general opinion that Marc would always play the bad guy no matter how they wrapped his charactor of Riley simply because he wasn't Angel.

Now I have had tea and watched my video for a bit I am back here. We seem to be moving toward making general claims about audience expectations which I suppose is one option. To generalise even further this might take us into the radical changes effected in S4 and whether changing such a brilliant formula was a good idea. I feel they had to move on and the changes to some extent were necessary. It would have been a disaster for them to be stuck in some sort of later Friends predicament where they suffered distressing mental health problems. In relation to Buffy moving on to college it was a good idea for instance though I feel they could have milked the scenario a little more.

I find it hard to believe the audience suffered from some sort of emotional sclerosis whereby they could not understand Buffy had to move on especially in a new environment. The relationship was closed, or should have been, in the brilliant I Will Remember You. I must admit I forget when the Riley relationship was officially serious maybe circa A New Man. There was some degree of transistion which was not excessive.

It was probably David Fury who said something along the lines that they would be selling out on Buffy if they made Spike some sort of serious love interest. His instincts were entirely correct though maybe he was in a minority unfortunately. Marti said somewhere her postbag was overwhelmed with letters saying Spike should be a love interest which seems to me a good example as any that the public should be ignored and not be the basis of your decisions. sk

or giles owning the funeral home of sunnydale .... burn the one with tiny puncture wound on their neck..... make the slayer life easier ,..... :ponder:

Just when Riley started getting vaguely interesting ( :blush: there's a phrase I never thought I'd type), with the addicted to vampires thing, he RAN AWAY! OK, flew, but I for one, as the silly bint scooted to stop him leaving (Ultimatum Guy too, deserved to be snubbed)...was yelling at the screen - Sprain Ankle, Break Heel, Trip over large and adhesive monster...
Good to see they finally gave up on the character's credibility - sneering at him possibly the only thing reformed Spike and Angel have ever agreed on (apart from the desirability of Buffy herself.)

his return in as we were had a bad reason but at least buffy broke up with spike

Remains the leading contender of my all-time tackiest episodes (short list of one).

Ok you have me a bit intrigued as I am not sure why AYW is tacky? Is it the contrived marriage aspect?

I have just finished watching Tabula Rasa and my instinct is still to say it is pretty good when it comes to the drama elements though the humour is a bit flat. The cast do try their best though that is clear. I feel the humour needed to be more ridiculous and maybe should have focused on fewer characters. The music at the end is excellent.

I am not looking forward to the next 8 episodes which ranks as the worst run in the whole series by some margin. Dead Things maybe shines if somewhat dimly. sk

buy some bikes (see pangs) :rolleyes:

Well that was a lengthly discussion we had over Riley being killed! I can't reply as I have forgotten what we were discussing in the first place!!!! :lmao:

:thumbsup: I wasn't the only one screaming at the TV at that point then!

(Sorr for psting straight after my previous one but I am ashamed to say I don't know how to include two quotes in my post :blush: )

I'm a Riley fan, and I'm with John on this one; I think the character of Riley was underwritten.

Riley marrying a bimbo on the rebound is colossally tacky, and suitable ending for him- but they didn't need a whole episode to show how much better she was without him.

Sub-James-Bondery just desnt do it for me, I suppose; and Spike as the eggman is well dodgy, out of character and cheesy.

I love Tabula Rasa, witty, silly and deeply consequential! Glad you have a softish spot for it yourself.