Title: 6 - Dalek
Matthew Matic - April 30, 2005 06:49 PM (GMT)
Good episode, but when are they going to do an episode off of Earth?
Steve - April 30, 2005 07:25 PM (GMT)
Stunning episode with my all time favourite sci-fi baddie!
Very well written and acted,but my only critism was the volume level for background music-a little too loud perhaps. :yahoo:
smellyphagor - April 30, 2005 07:37 PM (GMT)
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| Good episode, but when are they going to do an episode off of Earth? |
I think they will do it quite early, maybe even as early as the second episode of the series. I'm sorry.
I'm not so sure about that episode. I liked it when the Dalek was killing everything, not sure what I think about humanising Daleks. Reminds me of "that" episode of TNG. And somewhen they are going to want to do another Dalek episode.
willowroolz - April 30, 2005 08:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (smellyphagor @ Apr 30 2005, 08:37 PM) |
| not sure what I think about humanising Daleks. Reminds me of "that" episode of TNG. |
I was thinking the same thing.
Still a brilliant episode, though :thumbsup:
ken1701e - April 30, 2005 08:32 PM (GMT)
I thought this episode was brillent.
More information about what has gone before that we havent seen (THE TIME WAR) and the DOCTOR going mad against his arch foe.
By the end of the episode I actually felt very sad for the DALEK and almost had a tear in my eye when it did its wonderful self distruct.
Brillent - sheer Brillance.
Matthew Matic - April 30, 2005 08:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (willowroolz @ Apr 30 2005, 08:31 PM) |
| QUOTE (smellyphagor @ Apr 30 2005, 08:37 PM) | | not sure what I think about humanising Daleks. Reminds me of "that" episode of TNG. |
I was thinking the same thing.
Still a brilliant episode, though :thumbsup:
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I also had the thought about humanising the Daleks, but like it or not it happens to all cool enemies eventuall. And if it's got to happen then this episode was the way to do it, plenty of blowing stuff up.
smellyphagor - April 30, 2005 08:53 PM (GMT)
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| Very well written and acted,but my only critism was the volume level for background music-a little too loud perhaps. |
What are your TV's speakers like? I find the same thing if the audio on the TV is set to stereo because the speakers aren't up to it.
jamiearmour - April 30, 2005 09:00 PM (GMT)
I loved this episode. I knew it, I just knew that the Daleks were the opponents in the "time war", I can't wait to see them again.
As to the humanising of the Daleks, hasn't that been done before? The Masterplan of Power of The Daleks? Didn't the Doctor infect some of them with the "human factor"?
And didn't the poor little Kaled lood so sweet?
Chris Eccleston was as usual amazing in the role. He so captured the feelings that anyone would feel coming across the person/thing that had killed his entire species. The fear, the anger, the anguish.
Bruno Langley was a revelation though. I know he played "The only gay in weatherfield" but as a lifelong Corrie hater, I'd never seen him act before, but wow, even though he was only on screen for a few minutes, he was fairly engaging. (A genius though? reminiscent of Adric???? Where are the Cybermen when you need them? :lmao: :whistling: )
smellyphagor - April 30, 2005 09:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jamiearmour @ Apr 30 2005, 10:00 PM) |
As to the humanising of the Daleks, hasn't that been done before? The Masterplan of Power of The Daleks? Didn't the Doctor infect some of them with the "human factor"?
And didn't the poor little Kaled lood so sweet?
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I dunno to be honest, I'm not that up on Doctor Who.
I saw Dr Who confidential after. A thought struck me. The Dalek looked like quite an exespensive bit of kit. Does anyone think that the BBC couldn't afford to do a story with loads of Daleks these days, because they couldn't afford to make loads of daleks that would look good enough for todays audience? If you see what I mean.
And, I suppose the Borg have made the cyber men undoable. Damn Star Trek. A pity- when I was a kid I found the cyber men as frightening as the Daleks.
Outta Sight - April 30, 2005 10:14 PM (GMT)
Great episode again :thumbsup:
I liked the fact that CE was relatively serious for once rather than the constant grins and "fantastics" that we've seen so far :rolleyes:
The Dalek was great and I really liked the humanising of it and the subsequent "suicide" of it, loved the fact that Rose was the saviour in this case rather than the doctor :thumbsup:
Aud - May 1, 2005 11:20 AM (GMT)
To be fair I don't know much about Dr Who saw a few old episodes and am following the new series religiously but still kinda new to the whole thing.
This episode actually annoyed me - all in all decent episode but why humanise the dalek? It was as bad as Spiderman 2 In my opinion bad guys should be bad you know black cape moustach tie you to the train tracks soon my death ray will destroy metropolis bad!
Is it just me?
Michelle - May 1, 2005 11:54 AM (GMT)
Good episode and I felt sorry for the dalek at the end of the ep. But does this mean an end to the daleks as bad guys? That would be a sad loss. :(
jamiearmour - May 1, 2005 12:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Michelle @ May 1 2005, 11:54 AM) |
| Good episode and I felt sorry for the dalek at the end of the ep. But does this mean an end to the daleks as bad guys? That would be a sad loss. :( |
I have a feeling that this was just the last of the "old school Daleks". I think they will be back, in some form or other. Maybe sometime around the end of the season? :whistling: And don't worry Michelle, I don't think there is a chance in hell of the whole humanisation thing w**king a second time (or a third time if my fragile memory serves me correctly) :rolleyes:
Steve - May 1, 2005 12:57 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (smellyphagor @ Apr 30 2005, 08:53 PM) |
What are your TV's speakers like? I find the same thing if the audio on the TV is set to stereo because the speakers aren't up to it. |
Yamaha Dolby 5.1 surround,but havent a clue how to adjust anything as a techinically minded friend set it all up!
Thought the episode went into greater detail about how all the Timelords and also the Daleks were made extinct (well almost!).Shame there are only 7 more eps to go,but think i'll be treating myself to the DVD's when available.
smellyphagor - May 1, 2005 01:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Steve @ May 1 2005, 01:57 PM) |
| QUOTE (smellyphagor @ Apr 30 2005, 08:53 PM) |
What are your TV's speakers like? I find the same thing if the audio on the TV is set to stereo because the speakers aren't up to it. |
Yamaha Dolby 5.1 surround,but havent a clue how to adjust anything as a techinically minded friend set it all up!
Thought the episode went into greater detail about how all the Timelords and also the Daleks were made extinct (well almost!).Shame there are only 7 more eps to go,but think i'll be treating myself to the DVD's when available.
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erm, sounds like it should be ok...
But I suppose you could fiddle around with the setting via your remote. It shouldn't be too hard...
But I'm not that technically minded either.
Steve - May 1, 2005 04:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (smellyphagor @ May 1 2005, 01:40 PM) |
erm, sounds like it should be ok...
But I suppose you could fiddle around with the setting via your remote. It shouldn't be too hard...
But I'm not that technically minded either. |
Nope-i dont touch what i dont understand.The back of TV system is all cables and dread the day when i have to re-decorate and everything has to come out... :blink:
prophecy girl - May 1, 2005 05:15 PM (GMT)
bring the last dalek and let kill it itself .... :ermm: ... still a good episode.
Dan Dispossessed - May 1, 2005 05:54 PM (GMT)
I liked this episode. It was a unique Dalek story it has to be said. It has touches of 'The Evil of the Daleks' wherein the Daleks get 'The Human Factor' and start to question their orders.
I am glad that this was not another Dalek invades Earth; kills everyone storyline as far too many of those have been done over the years. Of course some won't like the emotionless killer end it's existance as a broken wreck, but you can't please everyone.
If the Daleks do come back in 'Bad Wolf' (Ep. 12) & 'The Parting of the Ways' (Ep. 13) then it will genuinelly spoil this episode I think :(
Still, I await ITV's decision to cancel 'Celebrity Wrestling' :thumbsup:. I give it a week :D
NJS - May 1, 2005 06:59 PM (GMT)
I'm in two minds on this one - I thought overall it was excellent but at the same time I thought something was wrong - it was a bit like a (later) Marti Buffy episode where there were too many heartstring-pullers if you get what I mean.
I've been trying to think of what the scene near the start where the Dalek first talked and said "you mean I'm ...alone" reminded me of - does anyone have any ideas of anything similar? It made me think of The Outsider in Watchers a bit with the Mickey thing but I'm not sure whether that was it.
What I do like about this series is something I've mentioned before - the writers seem all too aware of thinks hat have been glossed over in the past and are going out of their way to highlight them - things like what the assistants tell their families is one I mentioned. Similar to that was the addressing of the classic crap comedians dig about how could the Daleks conquer the universe when they couldn't even climb stairs? Now the flying may have come a bit out of leftfield and may have traditionalists screaming but I thought as a means of addressing the classic pisstake it was fantastic.
I'd also mention that it bugged me throughout the entire show where I'd seen the ginger woman before but thankfully I recognised her name in the credits as being Osiris/Jackson's ex of SG-1 - nice to see the only 30 cult actors thing extending itself to Britain as well.
ant - May 1, 2005 08:09 PM (GMT)
I really enjoyed the episode. One of the best on the series so far.
Fangy and grrr - May 2, 2005 01:23 PM (GMT)
Another good episode. :thumbsup: I know what people mean about being conflicted about humanising the Dalek but seeing as it was only one - the last one - and that I doubt they will changed like this in future episodes I thought it was ok and it was very well done, I felt for it at the end as well.
CE was excellent and it was good to see the Dalek going up the stairs although I did read in a review that this isn't new and that they have flown before in a previous series.
NJS - May 2, 2005 02:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (NJS @ May 1 2005, 07:59 PM) |
| I've been trying to think of what the scene near the start where the Dalek first talked and said "you mean I'm ...alone" reminded me of - does anyone have any ideas of anything similar? |
I've watched something this afternoon by chance that has the similar scene I was thinking off.
It would be spoilery for a certain rewatch for me to go into more details :ph43r: :innocent:
Phillip Culley - May 2, 2005 09:30 PM (GMT)
Fantastic episode - but then since it was written by Rob Shearman (who has never written a duff story for Who yet - in fact this episode is reminiscent of the Big Finish audio 'Jubilee') then I really wasn't expecing any less. The best so far :)
To be honest I don't have a problem with the humanising if the Dalek - had they just had a mad Dalek exterminating people there could only be two conclusions - either they had the Doctor kill the Dalek (which would just be very wrong since the Doctor rarely kills aliens directly) or have someone else kill the Dalek (which would fall into the tired cliche of 'someone else saving the day' this series seems to have fallen into).
However, I did have one problem with the infamous flying Dalek scene - why does the Dalek sit and take everyone's insults for a good 30 seconds before deciding to 'E-LE-VATE' and chase them? While it's obvious it's playing to the audience's expectations, surely a trigger happy Dalek would just take off and shoot them?
Hovis - May 3, 2005 08:01 AM (GMT)
Well, I thought it was a cracking episode, and probably the best so far. That dalek was just completely menacing, and loved it. I loved the line we saw on the trailer, when the Doctor gets to talk to it... 'The Doctor.... the Doctor.' That brought a shiver up my spine when I first heard that.
As for the humanisation, well, before Rose touched it, and revitalised it, surely it was a cynical attempt for the Dalek to con Rose into doing exactly what she did. The Dalek must have understood humanity enough to know how to push someones buttons in order to get the desired effect. Along with Rose, I was beginning to feel sympathy for it, but just remembered that they are surely the most ruthless and evil creatures we've ever seen, and will do anything to get what they want. And obviously, this pleading for sympathy worked.
We've seen the levitation before, in a Sylvester McCoy story, so surely that would come as no surprise to an ardent fan! (I discovered this by watching Doctor Who Confidential after!)
I'm sure we haven't seen the last of the Daleks... least I hope we haven't!
Andrew (HM) :yahoo:
"I am my thoughts" - May 3, 2005 09:19 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jamiearmour @ Apr 30 2005, 09:00 PM) |
Bruno Langley was a revelation though. I know he played "The only gay in weatherfield" but as a lifelong Corrie hater, I'd never seen him act before, but wow, even though he was only on screen for a few minutes, he was fairly engaging. (A genius though? reminiscent of Adric???? Where are the Cybermen when you need them? :lmao: :whistling: ) |
I disagree. i thought he was terribel in the role. Any chance they'll chuck him off the Tardis? :shifty:
Number Six - May 3, 2005 12:06 PM (GMT)
Great episode. Though I surprised myself by actually feeling sorry for a Dalek.
Is Bruno Langley a permanent feature now. I suppose it might tone Rose down. (Some hope)
Trust No1 - May 4, 2005 10:56 AM (GMT)
Another great episode, but somehow I do not think we have seen the last of the daleks. I don't buy that suicide thing.
I bet he has teleported somewhere, and If one has survived whats not to say more have somewhere???? :fear:
Cullsoft - May 26, 2005 11:55 PM (GMT)
Most enjoyable episode. Another of those where you wonder and worry about how they're going to "modernise" a story with an old foe and whether they'll do it justice, but they did it proud. :) I particularly liked the extermination effect!
And to be a gun buff, I always give a thumbs up when I see a show using Heckler & Koch G36 series assault rifles. :thumbsup:
To add in something that hasn't been said already, it seems we've finally found out what the nobbly bits around the Dalek's shell are for. :)
DanielFullard - June 2, 2005 11:59 AM (GMT)
Dalek....possibly the best 45 minutes of British television in the 21st cenutry.....
Amazing. Wow. Mind blowing. My reaction when I was watching this episode was sheer awe...jaw dropping. An angry doctor, a lonely dalek and an american prick. What else do you need? As a long time Who fan this was one I had my eye on right from the start when the episode titles were announced.
CLASSIC!
"Elevate"
I cant put it into words but if you didnt like this episode then you shouldnt be watching Doctor Who
5/5