Title: 5 - World War 3
ken1701e - April 23, 2005 07:31 PM (GMT)
Excellent Excellent Excellent.
loved this episode. Funny in places, moving in others. Well acted and reasonable special effects.
Still not keen on the Mickey character...
AND LOOK WHATS COMING NEXT WEEK........

Hardly a spoiler - I think everyone knows this is coming.
jamiearmour - April 23, 2005 07:39 PM (GMT)
I cannot heap enough praise on this episode. It was amazing. The Slitheen, was it just me or did they look even better than they did last week?
Oh, it was just me then :ph43r:
Spoilers ahead for those who are watching the repeats
I loved the look on the father Slitheens face as he started to utter his last word. "Oh Bol...." Hilarious.
Fewer fart gags this week (thankfully) but they at least give a credible explaination for them, and a clue as to how to defeat the Slitheen.
I also loved RTD's reference to the 45 second timescale :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: It's the second w**k of fiction to use that number :lol:
All in all, a great show, The teaser for next week was far better edited than last week, if you didn't already know who the villain was next week, it would have made ya jump.
ken1701e - April 23, 2005 07:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jamiearmour @ Apr 23 2005, 09:39 PM) |
I cannot heap enough praise on this episode. It was amazing. The Slitheen, was it just me or did they look even better than they did last week?
Oh, it was just me then :ph43r:
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no it wasnt just you
NJS - April 23, 2005 07:51 PM (GMT)
I don't pay my licence fee for the BBC to have thinly veiled "getback" digs at our wonderful PM - then again if that WAS their mandate I actually wouldn't mind paying it :)
A few plot holes like if it was taken as a hoax wouldn't they question the real PM's disappearance?
Overrall I enjoyed it - I like the way through Rose they have addressed issues on the assistants that have always been ignored in the past.
I might be cruder than you Jamie (is that possible :ph43r: ) but I thought the head cheese's expletive was the same as Willow's in Doppelgangland :) - though I now realise they wouldn't try and get away with that at that time of night and you're probably right..
Cardelia - April 24, 2005 01:43 AM (GMT)
<scientist>Calcium-based lifeforms? Killed by vinegar? Dear oh dear...</scientist>
I thought the FX were a bit better this week. The CG slitheen looked far more menacing, rather than the close up man-in-suit effects. I still can't take their facial appearance seriously - it looks like they should be advertising Homepride cooking sauces rather than trying to nuke the world ;)
jamiearmour - April 24, 2005 09:06 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cardelia @ Apr 24 2005, 01:43 AM) |
| I still can't take their facial appearance seriously - it looks like they should be advertising Homepride cooking sauces rather than trying to nuke the world ;) |
I was thinking they looked more like the Pilsbury Dough boy! But homepride sauce works just as well :lmao:
Number Six - April 24, 2005 09:38 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ken1701e @ Apr 23 2005, 09:43 PM) |
| QUOTE (jamiearmour @ Apr 23 2005, 09:39 PM) | I cannot heap enough praise on this episode. It was amazing. The Slitheen, was it just me or did they look even better than they did last week?
Oh, it was just me then :ph43r:
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no it wasnt just you
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Certainly wasn't just you.
Great episode. The Slitheen made good villains and I loved the weapons of destruction in 45 seconds gag :whistling: though I'm still surprised it's going out at election time. Revenge for Hutton, methinks
One gripe is that I thought it got a bit bogged down with Rose, her mother and Mickey towards the end, but that was all.
So that's all I have to do to get rid of His Tonyness. Hmm
ant - April 24, 2005 10:08 AM (GMT)
Good episode, funny in places. :thumbsup: 8/10
goth willow fan - April 24, 2005 01:15 PM (GMT)
The Slitheens were OK but I agree the heads were the problem; They looked far from menacing!
Loved the "Oh Bo..."
Steve - April 24, 2005 04:09 PM (GMT)
I really enjoyed this ep and thought the humour was brilliant! :thumbsup:
Bring on the Daleks...
Hovis - April 24, 2005 04:52 PM (GMT)
Excellent stuff. Loved last week's too, but there were a couple of problems with the last episode.
Aside from the decidedly unmenacing alien faces, I thought they were excellent. Glad the number of fart jokes had gone down though! I loved Penelope Wilton too, she was great. Not sure I could handle her as PM though! Again, well done to Andrew Marr too!
Some great lines. I'm surprised too that they thought they could get away with the 45 second gag during an election campaign, but if they can get away with destroying the Palace of Westminster, and killing the PM, then that's not much in comparison I suppose!
And really looking forward to next week too. Looks fun.
Andrew (HM) :yahoo:
NJS - April 24, 2005 05:16 PM (GMT)
One thing I thought was a slight mistake was when they mentioned Harriet being a legendary PM and mentioned 3 terms. The bitch had 3 terms and Nlair probably will so its not that great an achievment in modern terms.
jamiearmour - April 24, 2005 06:13 PM (GMT)
Yeah, but according to the Doctor, this one will bring about Britains "Golden Age".
That's a nice dream to have.
Sparkle Motion - April 25, 2005 08:40 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (NJS @ Apr 24 2005, 06:16 PM) |
| One thing I thought was a slight mistake was when they mentioned Harriet being a legendary PM and mentioned 3 terms. The bitch had 3 terms and Nlair probably will so its not that great an achievment in modern terms. |
I'd appreciate it if you didn't call her 'The Bitch', I find it quite offensive. She can't have been all bad if she was voted in 3 times. (The same goes for Blair and I'm not a fan of his).
Anyway, back to Dr Who...
Bakhesh - April 25, 2005 08:58 AM (GMT)
I'm betting your one of those youngsters SM.
Anyone who lived through the Thatcher years would know that Bitch is the correct designation.
jamiearmour - April 25, 2005 03:01 PM (GMT)
Sorry to contradict Bakkesh, but you'll probably find that it was everyone in Britain who were her bitches for far too long. :fear: :fear:
NJS - April 25, 2005 05:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sparkle Motion @ Apr 25 2005, 09:40 AM) |
| QUOTE (NJS @ Apr 24 2005, 06:16 PM) | | One thing I thought was a slight mistake was when they mentioned Harriet being a legendary PM and mentioned 3 terms. The bitch had 3 terms and Nlair probably will so its not that great an achievment in modern terms. |
I'd appreciate it if you didn't call her 'The Bitch', I find it quite offensive. She can't have been all bad if she was voted in 3 times. (The same goes for Blair and I'm not a fan of his).
Anyway, back to Dr Who...
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That is so toned down from what she is and what she should be called its polite.
Fair enough - just calling her Thatcher is enough to invoke the most evil woman in history.
Cardelia - April 25, 2005 05:49 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sparkle Motion @ Apr 25 2005, 09:40 AM) |
| QUOTE (NJS @ Apr 24 2005, 06:16 PM) | | One thing I thought was a slight mistake was when they mentioned Harriet being a legendary PM and mentioned 3 terms. The bitch had 3 terms and Nlair probably will so its not that great an achievment in modern terms. |
I'd appreciate it if you didn't call her 'The Bitch', I find it quite offensive. She can't have been all bad if she was voted in 3 times. (The same goes for Blair and I'm not a fan of his).
Anyway, back to Dr Who...
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As far as I can tell, she was only voted in three times because the then Labour party was in a worse state of disarray than the Conservatives have been for the past 8 years. I'm slightly too young to remember the Thatcher years very well, but just cos she was voted in 3 times, doesn't make her a good PM.
NJS - April 25, 2005 06:03 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cardelia @ Apr 25 2005, 06:49 PM) |
| QUOTE (Sparkle Motion @ Apr 25 2005, 09:40 AM) | | QUOTE (NJS @ Apr 24 2005, 06:16 PM) | | One thing I thought was a slight mistake was when they mentioned Harriet being a legendary PM and mentioned 3 terms. The bitch had 3 terms and Nlair probably will so its not that great an achievment in modern terms. |
I'd appreciate it if you didn't call her 'The Bitch', I find it quite offensive. She can't have been all bad if she was voted in 3 times. (The same goes for Blair and I'm not a fan of his).
Anyway, back to Dr Who...
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As far as I can tell, she was only voted in three times because the then Labour party was in a worse state of disarray than the Conservatives have been for the past 8 years. I'm slightly too young to remember the Thatcher years very well, but just cos she was voted in 3 times, doesn't make her a good PM.
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True labour were in a mess - Micheal foot was a brilliant man but a hopeless leader - a century out of his time - plus the vote was split by the upsurge for the SDP/Libs plus She appealed to the base level in too many people.
goth willow fan - April 25, 2005 06:39 PM (GMT)
and was helped at least once on the back of a slight fracas in the South Atlantic.
jamiearmour - April 25, 2005 11:27 PM (GMT)
But we clever people in Scotland saw her for what she was, I think by the middle of her "reign" she only had 2 or 3 scottish mp's :thumbsup:
But there is one thing that she does have over the currrent tory leadership, she at least had a personality. :whistling: (and a cracking spitting image puppet :lmao: )
Bakhesh - April 26, 2005 08:26 AM (GMT)
Scotland, or the testing ground as thatcher called it. She seemed to have it in for the scots almost as much as she had it in for the miners. All her dodgy policies were tested out on you before we got them.
And I think its unfair to say that michael howard doesn't have a personality. He does. Its a kinda creepy, weasely sort of thing.
Wasn't there a rumour that Spitting Image was coming back?
jamiearmour - April 26, 2005 09:23 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Bakhesh @ Apr 26 2005, 08:26 AM) |
| Wasn't there a rumour that Spitting Image was coming back? |
I think that's all it was though. A rumour. Probably put about by Fluck and Law, who haven't worked since the series ended. :lol:
God I want Paramount comedy (or some satelite channel) to show it again.
Number Six - April 26, 2005 12:23 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (NJS @ Apr 25 2005, 08:03 PM) |
| QUOTE (Cardelia @ Apr 25 2005, 06:49 PM) | | QUOTE (Sparkle Motion @ Apr 25 2005, 09:40 AM) | | QUOTE (NJS @ Apr 24 2005, 06:16 PM) | | One thing I thought was a slight mistake was when they mentioned Harriet being a legendary PM and mentioned 3 terms. The bitch had 3 terms and Nlair probably will so its not that great an achievment in modern terms. |
I'd appreciate it if you didn't call her 'The Bitch', I find it quite offensive. She can't have been all bad if she was voted in 3 times. (The same goes for Blair and I'm not a fan of his).
Anyway, back to Dr Who...
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As far as I can tell, she was only voted in three times because the then Labour party was in a worse state of disarray than the Conservatives have been for the past 8 years. I'm slightly too young to remember the Thatcher years very well, but just cos she was voted in 3 times, doesn't make her a good PM.
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True labour were in a mess - Micheal foot was a brilliant man but a hopeless leader - a century out of his time - plus the vote was split by the upsurge for the SDP/Libs plus She appealed to the base level in too many people.
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Thatcher got in in 1979 becausde the country was in a complete mess and in the grip of rampant Trade Union power. Jim Callaghan was a lovely man personally but hopeless at controlling the unions. Along came Maggie and that was it. In addition, she was the first woman PM and o lot of people voted for he for that reason alone.
In 1983 she was helped the the Falklands War but more by Labour's frankly bizarre choice of Michael Foot as leader. He was an old style socialist who banged on about disarmament, when the electorate weren't especially interest. In 1987 she beat Kinnock, another firebrand socialist.
The odd things are that she won in 1983 ans especially 1987 when she should have been beaten out of sight. The country was in a deep recession but she kept getting re-elected. The other strange thing is that the more the country rejected socialism and all it's works the more the Labour party kept electing left wing leaders.
End of history lesson :D
NJS - April 26, 2005 05:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Number Six @ Apr 26 2005, 01:23 PM) |
| QUOTE (NJS @ Apr 25 2005, 08:03 PM) | | QUOTE (Cardelia @ Apr 25 2005, 06:49 PM) | | QUOTE (Sparkle Motion @ Apr 25 2005, 09:40 AM) | | QUOTE (NJS @ Apr 24 2005, 06:16 PM) | | One thing I thought was a slight mistake was when they mentioned Harriet being a legendary PM and mentioned 3 terms. The bitch had 3 terms and Nlair probably will so its not that great an achievment in modern terms. |
I'd appreciate it if you didn't call her 'The Bitch', I find it quite offensive. She can't have been all bad if she was voted in 3 times. (The same goes for Blair and I'm not a fan of his).
Anyway, back to Dr Who...
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As far as I can tell, she was only voted in three times because the then Labour party was in a worse state of disarray than the Conservatives have been for the past 8 years. I'm slightly too young to remember the Thatcher years very well, but just cos she was voted in 3 times, doesn't make her a good PM.
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True labour were in a mess - Micheal foot was a brilliant man but a hopeless leader - a century out of his time - plus the vote was split by the upsurge for the SDP/Libs plus She appealed to the base level in too many people.
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Thatcher got in in 1979 becausde the country was in a complete mess and in the grip of rampant Trade Union power. Jim Callaghan was a lovely man personally but hopeless at controlling the unions. Along came Maggie and that was it. In addition, she was the first woman PM and o lot of people voted for he for that reason alone.
In 1983 she was helped the the Falklands War but more by Labour's frankly bizarre choice of Michael Foot as leader. He was an old style socialist who banged on about disarmament, when the electorate weren't especially interest. In 1987 she beat Kinnock, another firebrand socialist.
The odd things are that she won in 1983 ans especially 1987 when she should have been beaten out of sight. The country was in a deep recession but she kept getting re-elected. The other strange thing is that the more the country rejected socialism and all it's works the more the Labour party kept electing left wing leaders.
End of history lesson :D
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Classic question on 1979 - the winter of discontent was a factor but then people always say the government gave unions too much power - if they had the power they would have been given what they wanted without striking so which way is it?
If the public services had struck when Thatcher was in she would have waited them out - which is what Callaghan did.
The mess the country was in in 79 was paradise compared to the next 7 years for most and 18 years for many.
Dan Dispossessed - April 27, 2005 01:55 PM (GMT)
It was a large improvement on 'Aliens of London' for me and it captured the excitement of 'Rose'. The dialogue was quite funny and they even put in a political jibe for good measure :D
I think that Penelope Wilton played Harriet Jones: MP for Flydale North very well.
star_fury - May 6, 2005 02:22 PM (GMT)
better than aliens of London but World War Three was still well below par. I just wonder if the far superior Farscape or Buffy had been given such a prime time slot with all the advertising that Dr Who has had, how they would have done in the ratings?
Strangely at the end of the episode I kind of wanted Mickey (is that Roses ex- boyfriend 's name?) to come along. I think he improved greatly in this episode and it would be nice to have more than two regular characters.