Title: 1 - Rose
ken1701e - March 11, 2005 09:48 PM (GMT)
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| The Doctor meets Rose who is w**king in a department store and battles against the Autons when they are activated. |
ken1701e - March 26, 2005 07:55 PM (GMT)
Well that was the quickest 45 mins of tv ever.
Excellent first episode, did what it set out to do, reintroduced the Doctor, who although different from his other selves is at the same time the same (if that makes sense) and also introduced Rose. I didnt like the fact it was going to be BILLIE PIPER but i must say she played the role very well.
The new variation of the theme tune is good and the new tardis interior is excellent.
On a personal note though its a shame that to start off with you could hear what was going on in the Come Dancing studio as i distinctly hear Graham Norton and also I dont like the Coming Next bit at the end but all the bbc programmes seem to have that now.
Cannot wait for next week and the next 12 weeks and I will definately be buying this series on dvd.
Excellent!!!!
janey1003 - March 26, 2005 08:01 PM (GMT)
I enjoyed it. Loved Christopher E - though as I'm not au fait with previous series I dont have anyone to compare him with. Fast paced, though a little low budget.
grrrarrrgh - March 26, 2005 08:02 PM (GMT)
Evening all!
I posted this on another topic so sm copying and pasting but:
I wanted to love it. I wanted to adore it. but I didn't. It shows promise, it shows potential, but as a season opener, i don't think it gave that much. The supporting actors (Rose's mum and her boyfriend) were very wooden but I thought that Billie Piper and Christopher Eccleston were good.
I enjoyed it, it had its merits, but I think I was hoping for so much more. Hopefully later episodes will give us more interesting storylines - the trailer for next week looked quite good.
In agreement with the whole Graham Norton thing played over the top of the episode - what was that all about????!!!! :rolleyes: :mad:
NJS - March 26, 2005 08:08 PM (GMT)
Rubbish but enjoyable rubbish - but thats how I always defined Doctor Who anyway :)
2 minutes in and I thought - they've brought back the Autons! - Jon Pertwee's first adventure revisted.
I loved "Other planets have norths" :thumbsup:
Liked the way they updated it - t'internet nutter conspiracist and all.
Will probably watch again.
janey1003 - March 26, 2005 08:11 PM (GMT)
Oh I'll def watch it next week. Though that its on Sat night is limiting as a time to be on - dont intend to stay in every sat!!
Steve - March 26, 2005 08:12 PM (GMT)
As a series opener-very very good.Christopher Eccleson and Billie Piper played their parts impecably.The whole episode seemed to zip through and didnt appear to be 45 minutes long.
I also liked the new music/titles & cannot wait until next week! :fear:
Persephone - March 26, 2005 08:13 PM (GMT)
Great stuff, glad to see they haven't messed with the theme tune too much, and yay how cool was it to hear the Tardis after all these years :thumbsup:
Billie was surprisingly likeable in the role of the latest Doctor's assistant, so much better than the awful 'Ace' and I think Christopher Ecceleston is going to make a great Doctor :)
With regards to the special effects, it is the Beeb afterall, so yes it looks a little cheap, if you've survived on a diet of US scifi for the last few years, but I think they did a decent enough job.
Loved the new Tardis interior, it looks quite intimidating and much larger than previous incarnations.
As a sidenote, my daughter got quite scared when the mannequins came to life, so jumped onto my lap, reminds me of when I was younger :lol: :lol:
janey1003 - March 26, 2005 08:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Persephone @ Mar 26 2005, 08:13 PM) |
| With regards to the special effects, it is the Beeb afterall, so yes it looks a little cheap, if you've survived on a diet of US scifi for the last few years, but I think they did a decent enough job. |
True- it is the BBC. And if they spent too much the TV licence payers would complain. Plus thats the charm of British shows. I think if we were too much like the US shows it would seem weird. Great when he reappeared at the end and said 'oh and it travels through time'.
janey1003 - March 26, 2005 08:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Persephone @ Mar 26 2005, 08:13 PM) |
| With regards to the special effects, it is the Beeb afterall, so yes it looks a little cheap, if you've survived on a diet of US scifi for the last few years, but I think they did a decent enough job. |
True- it is the BBC. And if they spent too much the TV licence payers would complain. Plus thats the charm of British shows. I think if we were too much like the US shows it would seem weird. Great when he reappeared at the end and said 'oh and it travels through time'.
NJS - March 26, 2005 08:27 PM (GMT)
When the department store went up at the start did anybody else think of the Watchers Council headquarters in Bring on the Night?
janey1003 - March 26, 2005 08:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (NJS @ Mar 26 2005, 08:27 PM) |
| When the department store went up at the start did anybody else think of the Watchers Council headquarters in Bring on the Night? |
Actually yes. I suppose that was in london also.
laughitupfuzzball - March 26, 2005 08:32 PM (GMT)
It was ok, they made a decent enough job of reinventing it far better than the last tv series with Sylvester McCoy.
Liked Christopher Eccleston but he seemed a little uncomfortable at being flippant, Billie Piper was also ok.
Enjoyable but not really enough to hook me in. I will say they did a good job though :)
grrrarrrgh - March 26, 2005 08:35 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Persephone @ Mar 26 2005, 08:13 PM) |
With regards to the special effects, it is the Beeb afterall, so yes it looks a little cheap, if you've survived on a diet of US scifi for the last few years, but I think they did a decent enough job.
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So true! Imagine it on a US budget????? :D
janey1003 - March 26, 2005 08:39 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (grrrarrrgh @ Mar 26 2005, 08:35 PM) |
| QUOTE (Persephone @ Mar 26 2005, 08:13 PM) |
With regards to the special effects, it is the Beeb afterall, so yes it looks a little cheap, if you've survived on a diet of US scifi for the last few years, but I think they did a decent enough job.
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So true! Imagine it on a US budget????? :D
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It'd loose its charm if it looks like Alias etc.
Laura - March 26, 2005 08:52 PM (GMT)
I really enjoyed it. BBC Scotland didn't have Graham Norton playing over the start of it though, and because they went straight to the footie we also didn't get a trailer for next week.
Christopher Eccleston was very good imo, not at all what I thought the Doctor would be.
ant - March 26, 2005 09:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (NJS @ Mar 26 2005, 08:27 PM) |
| When the department store went up at the start did anybody else think of the Watchers Council headquarters in Bring on the Night? |
:lol: Yes it does.
jamiearmour - March 26, 2005 09:16 PM (GMT)
I loved it.
The pacing was superb, the script was done to perfection, just the right blend of emotion, humour and chills. The effects, while a bit ropey compared to the shows from the US, were spectacular compared to the beebs usual output.
To all of the doomsayers out there all I can say is :p :p :p :p
7 days is too long to wait.
ken1701e - March 26, 2005 09:17 PM (GMT)
oh i do hope i dont have to become the defender of this programme like i do with ENTERPRISE
jamiearmour - March 26, 2005 09:25 PM (GMT)
Nah. cos you're always nice when you're defending Enterprise.
If I have to defend the Doctor, well lets just say... The bitch will come out to play :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :guns: :guns:
ken1701e - March 26, 2005 09:27 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jamiearmour @ Mar 26 2005, 11:25 PM) |
| Nah. cos your always nice |
you wouldnt say that if you had heard the way i was shouting at M ealier today :whistling:
jamiearmour - March 26, 2005 09:29 PM (GMT)
From what you told me she deserved it ;)
Most of it anyway :whistling:
Phillip Culley - March 26, 2005 10:37 PM (GMT)
Good. Not great though.
There are a lot of good things - Eccleston for one is quite excellent, and there are several nice touches, such as the proper TARDIS dematerialisation sound effects from the 60's, and a theme tune that uses the original theme, yet still sounds modern enough.
However, there were several problems - for one there was too much story for the 45-minute slot. Given that we had to introduce the main characters (which took up half the story), the Auton story seemed much too simplistic and easily rectified at the end. I'm sure with a bit of effort they could have fleshed it out more to make it a 2-part story...
Also, Billie Piper is dire. There - I've said it :)
Finally, there is certain "comedic" elements which were cringe worthy - such as the 'boing' when the champagne cork hit Rose' boyfriend, and the belch from the wheelie bin. We've never had to sink that low before, why now? This isn't ChuckleVision, Russel...
On the whole, while not the disaster it could have been, it's far from being this amazing piece of television that we were expecting it to be :)
...and was I the only person to wonder how come Rose didn't spot her boyfriend suddenly changed into a shining Travis Mayweather (Star Trek Enterprise reference) lookalike? :)
Michelle - March 27, 2005 02:25 AM (GMT)
Was Dr Who always that cheesy in the old days? :unsure: I dunno, I liked it, it had a cetain charm, but on occasion some of the lines/scenes were a bit cringeworthy, and Chris Eccleston seemed rather too manic/zany/odd. (I used a far better word to describe him earlier to my mates, but can't for the life of me think what it is now <_<).
I'll still probably stick with it though.
laughitupfuzzball - March 27, 2005 09:18 AM (GMT)
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Finally, there is certain "comedic" elements which were cringe worthy - such as the 'boing' when the champagne cork hit Rose' boyfriend, and the belch from the wheelie bin. We've never had to sink that low before, why now? This isn't ChuckleVision, Russel...
On the whole, while not the disaster it could have been, it's far from being this amazing piece of television that we were expecting it to be
...and was I the only person to wonder how come Rose didn't spot her boyfriend suddenly changed into a shining Travis Mayweather (Star Trek Enterprise reference) lookalike? |
Agreed with all of the above and it should have been longer :)
Persephone - March 27, 2005 09:30 AM (GMT)
LOL, I'd forgotten the 'zombie' looking boyfriend. He wouldn't have looked out of place in the original Dawn Of the Dead movie :lol: :lol:
Number Six - March 27, 2005 10:00 AM (GMT)
A good, but not great opener. Not that I know about such things but I would have thought that the mannequins would have had younger viewers looking for the sofa.
Eccleston seems to be shaping up well (always an odd choice for me) and I must be the only one to find Piper's Eestenners shrillness a little grating.
Still, much to enjoy in there. 7/10
Number Six - March 27, 2005 10:06 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Persephone @ Mar 27 2005, 11:30 AM) |
| LOL, I'd forgotten the 'zombie' looking boyfriend. He wouldn't have looked out of place in the original Dawn Of the Dead movie :lol: :lol: |
Trying to w**k out where I'd seen him before distracted me the whole time. Right at he end I remembered he was in Auf Weifersehen Pet.
Terrible thing, memory er, erm
goth willow fan - March 27, 2005 11:42 AM (GMT)
I thought it was OK and I enjoyed it.
Dialogue seemed a little forced in places trying to o v e r e m p h a s i s e the jokes, and it was very odd when they ran over Waterloo bridge with great beaming smiles (especially Billie), wasn't the world in great peril, with them running to save it. Did they have to look quite so cheerful?
smellyphagor - March 27, 2005 01:20 PM (GMT)
I think this could be good when it settles down, at the moment there is a lot of "we are being fast paced and modern, look at all the running around", and the Doctor was annoying for the first 15 minutes or so. But it was good, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the series.
Out of interest, I just asked on the Buffy board if it is at all possible that the fact Rose gets up at 7.30 is a Buffy reference? 7.30 being an important time in Buffy, and the opening shot very similar to the opening shot of Buffy, although I admit a opening shot of an alarm clock is fairly common... But Russell T Davies know his Buffy.
willowroolz - March 27, 2005 04:32 PM (GMT)
I enjoyed it. Some of the humour was a bit misjudged, especially with regards to Rose and her boyfriend and mother, but otherwise it moved along at a decent pace, and I thought Eccleston was good.
As a season opener it wasn't bad, but I'd be a bit concerned that the story wasn't all that strong and might lead to losing viewers next week.
A lot of promise, and next weeks ep looks like it could be a step up :)
jamiearmour - March 27, 2005 05:57 PM (GMT)
OK. I'll grant you that they did try to fit too much in to the first episode, but it had to be done. Either that or a two part episode, introducing the doc and Auton menace in part one and Rose in part 2.
He did just appear out of nowhere in what appeared to be, the middle of the story :blink:
But See it's a big but. It worked. It introduced the character of the Doctor, Rose, the time travel, the mystery, the adventure. It was all there. The burping wheelie bin was funny. I'll not hear a word against it. :lol:
"I am my thoughts" - March 27, 2005 06:06 PM (GMT)
I expected the worst, especially when I heard Billie Piper was in it. But i was pleasantly surprised, and will be watching next week.
I couldn't understand how Rose could get up the doctor by googling 'doctor blue box' though. The search engines are never that friendly! <_<
Crichton Kicks - March 27, 2005 06:41 PM (GMT)
Yes, the story wasn't the best in the world, and there were perhaps a number of other minor faults, but as first episodes go, I wouldn't be too concerned. I've seen far, far worse. As a non-fan of the original series I have to say I was impressed enough with this one to tune in for the next episode, and probably beyond.
On the point of the "Next Week on Doctor Who....." trailer at the end of the episode; I'd say it's probably a good idea, especially for the first episode at least. As others have said, the story wasn't the strongest you'll ever see, whereas next week's looks visually stunning.
Glad it wasn't just me that heard the annoying Irish tw*t at the start of the episode then :rolleyes:
A couple of things they changed/tweaked from the leaked copy; the theme tune was significantly better, and the FX looked liked they'd been sharpened a little, especially around the 'plastic arm' sequences.
Ecclestone I found to be probably the strongest factor of last night's episode, and Piper wasn't anywhere near as annoying as I'd feared.
Overall, I enjoyed it enough to continue. Let's hope they build on a fairly solid opening gambit :thumbsup:
Phillip Culley - March 27, 2005 09:27 PM (GMT)
Well, depending on where you look, Rose got something between 9.9 and 10.5 million viewers :)
Not bad at all - let's hope they keep it up! :)
Fangy and grrr - March 27, 2005 09:30 PM (GMT)
Never been a Doctor Who fan but I have to say I enjoyed it. :)
The plot was a little slight and it did feel a bit rushed but for a first episode it worked well enough. I thought Chris Ecclestone and Billie Piper were both really good and that they had a good chemistry between them. The effects were good enough so as not to spoil it ( and yes I thought the building blowing up looked pretty similar to The Watchers Council blowing up as well ) and I enjoyed the humour and the interplay between The Doctor and Rose. I'll certainly watch it again.
Oh and I heard on the radio today it got over 10 million viewers which is really good.
jamiearmour - March 27, 2005 09:50 PM (GMT)
The beeb seem happy with the overnights of 10.5 million, so that's good :thumbsup:
It's on a par with the ratings for the TV movie IIRC, but this time they don't need to worry about a fickle US audience to ensure funding :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Fangy and grrr - March 27, 2005 10:34 PM (GMT)
They should be happy with 10.5 million as outside the soaps not many shows get those kind of figures.
ken1701e - March 27, 2005 10:55 PM (GMT)
Good news about the viewing figures
In the news of the world today it said that the CYBERMEN were coming back but it didnt say when??? Have they heard something about the next season????
I have watched ROSE 3 times now and i still think for an opening episode it was very good, I would still have liked a regeneration scene but i believe they are thinking of doing that as a flashback in season 28.
Billie Piper was much better than i expected and as I said before I think the new dr is great, enough originality about him to be his own creation but with hints of the previous. The quips about the ears and being from the north were both very funny.
cannot wait for next season and already decided that this is one box set I must own when its released.
goth willow fan - March 27, 2005 10:59 PM (GMT)
What they said about doing a regeneration scene made a lot of sense.
After so long away it would have meant nothing to, and confused, new viewers.