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laughitupfuzzball - March 5, 2005 04:21 PM (GMT)
I'm having a little rewatch of this show at the moment and thought I would put some comments in here, anyone is welcome to join in



Episode 1 - First contact

It draws you in straight away with the realisation that the government does not want the relocation Eden Project to succeed and is willing to kill them off.

The planned broadcast they intercept that tells of their explosion 9hrs before they have even launched is pretty chilling.

So Devon & O'Neill make the decision to launch early leaving their pilot Alonso with some tough manouevering to get out of port before the doors close. There is high tension as they find the explosives on the monitor that Devon is talking too, can they get rid of it before the government realise they have been rumbled.

I had forgotten about how some of the crew/passengers were much older than they appeared due to prolonged cold sleep.

So the Eden Project is on its own, going to an unknown planet to begin a new civilisation not knowing what to expect and having no assistance. 22 years later they arrive and wake up forgotten about by all than the government, Earth's station inhabitants thinking they all died.

Uly is a sweet character and not annoying for a brat, the reason for his illness, lack of Earth atmosphere and natural bacteria which no doubt would affect all future generations in time if something is not done, and thats Devon's mission, to save her son and create a future for humans.

Rewatching I had forgotten how some of the relationships had started and how they are transformed throughout the series.

Their peril isn't over though as they cannot maintain control of the ship and have to evacuate, Morgan proving a lowly coward taking one of the pods for he and his wife and leaving without letting other passengers escape.

There are some lovely moments, when they first see the planet, when they open the hatch to see if the atmosphere is breathable and look upon their new home.

Not so lonely though, their equipment has been scavenged and it has been done by those seeking technology, and we get the cute little alien who bonds with True, Danziger's daughter.

Superb start :thumbsup:

laughitupfuzzball - March 5, 2005 04:25 PM (GMT)
First Contact part 2

We begin with cute little alien being not exactly harmless poisoning O'Neil with alarming speed, can't blame the little guy though for being shot at.

There are 2 different aspects of human behavior, those who don't respect other life shoot first ask questions later and those like the medic Julia who want to learn about other species first.

The 2 Terrians looming over camp on the ridge would be pretty freaky, and their disappearance nicely timed with 2 survivor's return Bess & Morgan.

Danziger obviously is having none of Morgans story about the auto eject, although Bess seems much more willing to bond with the group.

Uly's disappearance down the earth is quite disturbing and I did find devon scrambling away at the earth very moving. Like the Terrian disappearances into the ground.

Danziger not giving up shows he's not all bad and willing to help even though he realises that they are now stranded too, not part of his plan.

I love the idea of being able to contact the Terrians through dreams, it seem Alonso may have been having these for a while.

They are not the first humans to land, and are thought of by the Terrians as evil, what is the pact they have made?

After the return of Uly we see a hopeful group set out, Devon thrilled at his miraculous recovery seeing more good from this planet now and determined to fulfil her end of the mission by making a home for the colonists.

Love the ending on Tim Curry, you just know he is up to no good :lol:

btw the robot thing is pants
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laughitupfuzzball - March 5, 2005 06:18 PM (GMT)
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Uly :)

laughitupfuzzball - March 5, 2005 10:53 PM (GMT)
Episode 3

The Man Who Fell To Earth

The duplicitous Gaal wangles his way into the group and tries to win them over with his smarmy smiles, can no-one see his villainous insanity :lol: nice to see Curry in the role though.

He manages to get Morgan into a position to be stung by Coba and reveals that the sting is not fatal he will be in a coma for no more than a day or too, ooops O'Neill.

We see Gaal controlling the grendlers with electric collars and Alonso dreaming of humans also being controlled.

So they race back to camp only to find O'Neills body gone, then Gaal says if they trade with the grendlers they may be able to get him back. So we know Gaal wants power sources and to keep them in his territory. The Grendlers, look like dumb sorts of creatures but quite powerful and respond to Gaal now.

Love the scene with Morgan asking O'Neill what he saw while he was technically dead and Morgan thinks he went to hell :lol: :lol:

We learn that Yale is a cyborg and a defective model at that, he is a great character, the rock that Devon needs.

O'Neill ignores Devon's warnings and goes after Gaal and finds his stash, it really reminds me of an old pirate with his hoard in the caves, and his vicious side finally surfaces.

Another superb ep
:thumbsup:

Crichton Kicks - March 6, 2005 12:51 AM (GMT)
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Episode 1 - First contact


As premiere's go, I have to say I've always enjoyed this one. No messing about, straight into it.

You have to wonder how they picked up the incriminating transmission though. Anyone going to the trouble of blowing up a ship full of families would surely be smarter than that :rolleyes: That being said, the station-break sequence was :thumbsup:

The story itself is solid. The characters are introduced, the theme of the show outlined and seeds sewn for threads that will play out for the duration of the season/series. The show's quite lucky with it's casting, both Deborah Farentino and Clancy Brown are perfect in the roles, and both are great.

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I had forgotten about how some of the crew/passengers were much older than they appeared due to prolonged cold sleep.


I liked that conversation between Alonso and Danziger as well :lol:

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Uly is a sweet character and not annoying for a brat


He could have been worse, but admittedly, he still annoys me. Kids in tv shows nearly always do :rolleyes:

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There are some lovely moments, when they first see the planet, when they open the hatch to see if the atmosphere is breathable and look upon their new home.


Pretty much one of my favourite scenes from the pilot that one. Another thing about E2 that I always loved was the at times breath-taking use of location shooting.

As you say, a top starter this one. :thumbsup:


Crichton Kicks - March 6, 2005 01:02 AM (GMT)
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First Contact part 2


I don't think this one quite lives up to the promise of the opening half of the premiere, but it's still quite strong. The death of O'Neil was quite sudden, and unexpected, and at least the little alien critter ain't completely 'Spielberg' :thumbsup:

The Terrians do indeed seem quite daunting. They carry staffs around and don't give the impression of exactly being technologically superior, but they've got that whole 'Tremors' thing going on !!

Morgan's campfire 'story' clearly doesn't wash with Danziger, as well Morgan seems to realise. :lol:

The concluding 'abduction' sets things up nicely for the road ahead. Contact is made with the Terrians, Uly appears to be cured somewhat from his ailment, there's the pact between Devon and the Terrians, and the mission statement for the colonists is given; to get to New Pacifica in 9 months.

The final scenes introducing Tim Curry were quite creepy. The colonists clearly aren't the first humans to reach this planet, despite the Council's protestations in the opening hour. He looked evilly sneaky as well. Hmmm.......

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btw the robot thing is pants


Zero :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - March 6, 2005 09:13 AM (GMT)
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You have to wonder how they picked up the incriminating transmission though. Anyone going to the trouble of blowing up a ship full of families would surely be smarter than that


I think we have to assume that the government believe Devon and the others to be putty in their hands, they know Devon has been trying for this for years and probably think they will be blinded by excitement or something.

:lol:


They do use some great locations over the series and I love the use of the caves throughout the series giving it other worldly qualities :thumbsup: and it certainly doesn't look cheap. There isn't much use of CGI which imo is a good thing, giving it a more realistic feel although there are a few gadgets they are all quite credible

:)

laughitupfuzzball - March 6, 2005 10:00 AM (GMT)
Episode 4:

Life Lessons

More of the devious Gaal in this episode, Danziger certainly doesn't trust him and Devon and Yale decide that they need to abandon him with just cause.

Yale tries to learn from Morgan what the E2 program was - sanitation and begins his own search into Gaal's past.

The crates Gaal brings supposedly from the Grendlers hold a suprise, a foal soon to be a horse, the kids fight over it and True keeps making one bad decision after another. - Spoilt brat :lol:

Gaal uses her notion that she is being unfairly treated to get into her affections and tempts her with stories of magic into giving him the vehicle codes. Danziger has changed the codes and Gaal is left beating on the wagon in full view of everyone, doesn't True get even a little scared at his rage :blink:

Julia manages to fix the dying horse's DNA code only for True to give the horse to Gaal, another bad decision, ok she is a kid but shouldn't she have a little more punishment for her dangerous decisions.

Yale finally learns the truth that Gaal is one of many dangerous prisoners that were exiled on this planet, another example of the sneaky government, how much does Morgan know? and why is he even there?

True gets thrown from Pegasus as Gaal attempts to flee from Danziger in the dune buggy but True still harbors heroic notions of him.

This episode belongs to Tim Curry portraying Gaal's insane criminal mind brilliantly, OTT in some places but he does portray his madness and scheming nicely beguiling little True.

Good episode, more questions raised concerning the government's activities and the mystery of their new home :)

Crichton Kicks - March 6, 2005 11:54 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (laughitupfuzzball @ Mar 6 2005, 09:13 AM)
There isn't much use of CGI which imo is a good thing.

Judging from the CGI used for True's little critter in First Contact, that's very much a good thing :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - March 6, 2005 12:43 PM (GMT)
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QUOTE (laughitupfuzzball @ Mar 6 2005, 09:13 AM)
There isn't much use of CGI which imo is a good thing.

Judging from the CGI used for True's little critter in First Contact, that's very much a good thing :lol:

:lol: thank goodness we didn't get any more of them :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - March 6, 2005 01:53 PM (GMT)
Episode 5

Promises, Promises

The first rain they have ever experienced and they are joyful, love the anxious reaction at first before they realise its not toxic. Poor Uly back in his suit, if the Terrians are hurt he is too mmm.

Nice dream sequences again to show the plight of the Terrians, the scariest looking aliens proving to be the ones with the most fear and the ones needing help.

Gaal again shows his total insanity wanting to slaughter as many as he can, although he is in two minds about True. Yet again she endangers them all disobeying her father and contacting him :rolleyes:

They decide to help the Terrians, in part to help Uly and also as Devon states, they are making a new home on this planet and have to co-exist with them. Devon and Danziger see them being subjugated by the collars and realise that its Gaal's doing. The Terrian who asks for their help manages to help Uly with some Earth, again there is more to this planet than meets the eye.

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Silly silly True goes to Gaal to warn him until she sees the cruelty he possesses. Gaal reveals his secret, that wearing the bones of the Terrians protect him against them as they cannot attack their own - so thats what he's been making those necklaces for.

Danziger and Yale manage to stop him before he blows them up, Yale showing that he can use a weapon but directs the fire to Gaal's gun.

Gaal meets with a suitably nasty death being pulled underground by the angry Terrians creepily calling for Poppet as he goes under.

Uly is cured it seems for good this time and the bond between the survivors and the Terrians is deepened.

Good episode ending the Gaal story in style :thumbsup:

laughitupfuzzball - March 7, 2005 12:44 PM (GMT)
Episode 6

A Memory Play

Things take a turn for the worse as True discovers a grave flagged with an Eden Project shirt. Danziger and Baines discover another pod and dead body, inside there are survivors but it transpires they have caught a fatal disease and are contagious.

Danziger warns the rest of the group that he and Baines may be infected and so stay with the pod whilst Zero brings gear with the pod survivors to begin contact.

A sad moment as Devon learns that Danziger indeed has the virus and True rushes to see her dad after hearing the talk round the fire :(

We get flashbacks of the crews past and hear memories from Wentworth regarding Danziger as a stage of the illness. They clearly had a close relationship and even though they have little screen time in the series they are well formed characters that we relate too.

Meanwhile Morgan sees grendlers everywhere :lol: one Grendler seems to be stalking his every move, no one else sees him and Bess wonders whether he is going mad due to a guilty conscience, he fesses up to her that he launched the escape pod and she advises him to clear his soul and tell the group.

His confession doesn't go down too well especially as the group have been arguing as to the cause of the crash, poor Alonso thinking it was his fault.

Yale's recorded memory shows it was sabotage - but who.

Morgan's grendler slobbers all over him and its this slime that proves to be the cure for the illness, too late for Wentworth though.

Very funny moment as Morgan trades with the Grendler for his saliva, the Grendler wanting the shirt of his back and well all his clothes

:lol: Morgan thinks he is a hero for once :lol:

They discover that Wentworth had a motivation chip to cause the sabotage, again we see that the goverment took long lengths to stop this project at any cost. Some emotional scenes between Wentworth as she dies, Fierstein who tries to protect her and Danziger. Must say I was suprised to learn it was Wentworth, although I wasn't sure who else to suspect, certainly not Morgan.

The chip was also the cause of the virus which had somehow mutated on the planet. Good news that it wasn't the planet itself, the drinking water etc.

The biggest suprise is Julia making first contact with Reilly - a member of the council

:o

Enjoyed this one, a change of story filling us in with more information :)

laughitupfuzzball - March 7, 2005 01:20 PM (GMT)
Episode 7

Water

The Eden project is now rationing water, they are now travelling in a very arid region of the planet and have located a possible water source Devon and Danziger heading out to stock up.

This episode works due to the dynamic between Adair and Danziger, strong characters both likeable leaders Clancy Brown and Debrah Farentino playing off each other really well.

The characters both come from very different backgrounds but hold the same morals and both want whats best for the group.

The Terrians appear again but this time seem more aggressive, first seemingly warning them then actually attacking them with their staffs and binding them with ground roots. The root scene is hilarious as Devon fumbles to get the canteen with her mouth dropping it before Danziger gets a chance to drink and then going for his knife - could have been painful :lol:

It seems the Terrians were only protecting their powersource as it seems that the water they were hoping for is acidic burning their canteen. The Terrians then however assist them, moving the buggy over some ground water and giving a dehydrated Danziger some moisture from a cactus plant.

Lovely water fight at the end :thumbsup:

Crichton Kicks - March 7, 2005 06:10 PM (GMT)
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The Man Who Fell To Earth


I'm never quite sure what to make of these early episodes. On the one hand I can't stand Gaal, but on the other, Tim Curry plays him so chillingly well. He's extremely sinister.

The way that Gaal infiltrates the group is very expertly done, causing tension and friction amongst the group from the start. Testing loyalties and planting subversion. He would appear to be up to no good from the beginning :rolleyes:

One thing I don't understand, when they realise that the critter stings aren't lethal afterall, how come O'Neil isn't dead ?? They did bury him didn't they ?? Hello ?? Suffocation :rolleyes: Not that his resurrection lasted long :lol: Idiot.

There are some nice scenes featuring Morgan and Yale, the latter of which could well become an intruiging character, and I'm left wondering, just how long will it be before Yale's weapon aversion program fubars and he ends up going all kinds of nutso ?? :lol:

Crichton Kicks - March 7, 2005 06:17 PM (GMT)
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Life Lessons


Gaal's disguise would appear to be wearing quite thin. Danziger distrusts him and it doesn't take the others too long to start asking questions. Yale in particular dons his sleuthing cap. It's pretty obvious by now that Gaal's 'astronaut' story is rubbish, given his feable efforts at answering O'Neil's questions in the previous episode.

The E2 program - sanitation. Well I guess it was in a manner of speaking.

I loved the thread about Pegasus. The converstations between True and Danziger reminded me of Blade Runner with the scarcity of real animals, instead relying on synthetics. Great also just to see that particular thread play out. Something so simple as a horse, yet to these people something almost completely foreign, highlighting once again just how much we take for granted. The only frustrating part of that thread was True's stupidity once again. If I were Danziger I'd let Gaal have her :rolleyes: :lol: Brat.

Gaal appears to be quite adept at a little manipulation, and True's no match for him, falling under his spell.

Yale's findings confirming that the Eden Project aren't the first Humans out here afterall. Very interesting in itself, just what else has the Council lied about ?? Can we believe anything that's been taken as read from the first episode ??

Crichton Kicks - March 7, 2005 06:29 PM (GMT)
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Promises, Promises


You knew it wouldn't be long before Devon's promise came back to haunt the Eden guys.

Not a bad episode this one. Nailing home the ambiguity over Uly's recovery, it is permanent or not ?? This is resolved, as is the Gaal story that's spanned the previous two episodes, and the question of how Devon will repay the debt to the Terrians is resolved.

Loved the 'rain' scene at the beginning of the episode. Similar to the 'Pegasus' scenes in the previous story, the childlike innocence and wonder inspired by something that's taken for granted is quite powerful.

Given the power that we know the Terrians have, it's quite disturbing to see how Gaal controls them so easily. Even on their home turf they're no match for his psychotic mind. That doesn't bode well for the Eden Project.

I found the scenes between True and Gaal quite sinister as well, as well as being a psycho, is the guy a paedophile as well ?? :rolleyes:

In the end, Gaal's demise is satisfactorily shocking, and finally, the penny drops with True as to Gaal's intentions.

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Yale showing that he can use a weapon but directs the fire to Gaal's gun.


Possibly one of the most significant moments of the entire episode. Yale can apparently overcome his weapons aversion program when he really wants to then ?? Oh dear.

The Gaal storyline was beginning to drag on at this point, so I was quite glad to see it finally resolved, the whole group can now move on. Let's see what's next :thumbsup:

laughitupfuzzball - March 7, 2005 06:55 PM (GMT)
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I found the scenes between True and Gaal quite sinister as well, as well as being a psycho, is the guy a paedophile as well ??


There certainly were hints of this, he had already mentioned that he would use the women before he killed them and then decided to slaughter the lot of them, didn't he mention something about 16, would he wait for her to turn 16 perhaps if she had remained under his spell?

Very much as you say, it was time for an end to the Gaal storyline but it also taught the rather naive group a lot about their surroundings, they instantly took him in as he was human and yet fired upon the Terrians at first. They have a lot to learn.

Crichton Kicks - March 7, 2005 07:32 PM (GMT)
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I found the scenes between True and Gaal quite sinister as well, as well as being a psycho, is the guy a paedophile as well ??


There certainly were hints of this, he had already mentioned that he would use the women before he killed them and then decided to slaughter the lot of them, didn't he mention something about 16, would he wait for her to turn 16 perhaps if she had remained under his spell?

Very much as you say, it was time for an end to the Gaal storyline but it also taught the rather naive group a lot about their surroundings, they instantly took him in as he was human and yet fired upon the Terrians at first. They have a lot to learn.

Gaal's just one sick puppy :lol:

They should never have trusted him to begin with, the guy's so obviously shifty :rolleyes:

laughitupfuzzball - March 7, 2005 08:21 PM (GMT)
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I found the scenes between True and Gaal quite sinister as well, as well as being a psycho, is the guy a paedophile as well ??


There certainly were hints of this, he had already mentioned that he would use the women before he killed them and then decided to slaughter the lot of them, didn't he mention something about 16, would he wait for her to turn 16 perhaps if she had remained under his spell?

Very much as you say, it was time for an end to the Gaal storyline but it also taught the rather naive group a lot about their surroundings, they instantly took him in as he was human and yet fired upon the Terrians at first. They have a lot to learn.

Gaal's just one sick puppy :lol:

They should never have trusted him to begin with, the guy's so obviously shifty :rolleyes:

:lol: He wears eyeliner for goodness sake, its a sure sign :lol:

Crichton Kicks - March 7, 2005 08:31 PM (GMT)
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I found the scenes between True and Gaal quite sinister as well, as well as being a psycho, is the guy a paedophile as well ??


There certainly were hints of this, he had already mentioned that he would use the women before he killed them and then decided to slaughter the lot of them, didn't he mention something about 16, would he wait for her to turn 16 perhaps if she had remained under his spell?

Very much as you say, it was time for an end to the Gaal storyline but it also taught the rather naive group a lot about their surroundings, they instantly took him in as he was human and yet fired upon the Terrians at first. They have a lot to learn.

Gaal's just one sick puppy :lol:

They should never have trusted him to begin with, the guy's so obviously shifty :rolleyes:

:lol: He wears eyeliner for goodness sake, its a sure sign :lol:

Surely the English accent gives it away beyond any doubt :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - March 7, 2005 08:32 PM (GMT)
episode 8

The Church of Morgan

Not the best episode of the series but interesting things are learnt. Reilly wants Julia to harvest a gland from the top of Ulys spine - where his 'soul' is kept and she goes along with it until she sees a Terrian change into Alonso telling her it will kill him and their future. Uly has become a link between the 2 species that is vital.

I have forgotten to mention before how much I enjoy the introductions by different members of the group each week.
:lol: at Bess having improper thoughts about another man and wanting to make a confession, although Yale warns her she still goes ahead and tells Morgan - whats she like :lol: I wonder who it was :unsure:

Quick nod to Rebacca Gayheart who is as fabulous as ever.

Morgan throwing a strop is very funny although it does turn more serious as their marriage now void anyway is falling apart. Bess remembers why she loves him as she hears him trying to make things right with her father in VR - silly woman she was almost free.

I loved the dancing scene in VR at the end and on a girly note loved Devon's hair like that :lol:

All seems well at the end but the group don't know about Julia and Reilly's plans for Uly.


laughitupfuzzball - March 7, 2005 08:34 PM (GMT)
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I found the scenes between True and Gaal quite sinister as well, as well as being a psycho, is the guy a paedophile as well ??


There certainly were hints of this, he had already mentioned that he would use the women before he killed them and then decided to slaughter the lot of them, didn't he mention something about 16, would he wait for her to turn 16 perhaps if she had remained under his spell?

Very much as you say, it was time for an end to the Gaal storyline but it also taught the rather naive group a lot about their surroundings, they instantly took him in as he was human and yet fired upon the Terrians at first. They have a lot to learn.

Gaal's just one sick puppy :lol:

They should never have trusted him to begin with, the guy's so obviously shifty :rolleyes:

:lol: He wears eyeliner for goodness sake, its a sure sign :lol:

Surely the English accent gives it away beyond any doubt :lol:

:lol: On an American show its a sure sign of treachery :lol:


laughitupfuzzball - March 7, 2005 08:45 PM (GMT)
Episode 9

The Enemy Within

The tension mounts, Julia now decides that if she takes Uly's DNA and adds it to hers then she could become the link, not sure how much of that decision is to help Uly. Reilly seems skeptical about this from the start and as she begins to do this she becomes hyper, emotional and also has memory blackouts.

She winds up in Alonso's tent in a mass of feelings, I did feel so sorry for him when he went to see her in the morning and she said she couldn't remember :lol: isn't that supposed to be a guy thing. Alonso is clearly hurt and stays away from her for the rest of the episode - just when she could do with his help in getting a grip on reality.

On a rush from her progress she starts to make mistakes, she confides in Morgan :o Morgan of all people and when he says they should inform the others she attacks him. Now from Julia's point of view, she does believe she is doing good, she believes in the council - her mother was council although the attempts on the group - the bomb and the sabotage have produced doubts.

Still on a high she is rumbled when again she is sloppy and True overhears. From then on it snowballs, the group find out everything, she is a spy.

The scene where she fights with Devon is quite harrowing as even though she didn't kill Devon, in her state she could have. Jessica Steen plays this really well, her growing conflict between her loyalties. Julia I think realises things have gone too far but its too late, she wakes up to find the tent emptied and she is alone :o

Harsh

Crichton Kicks - March 7, 2005 09:41 PM (GMT)
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A Memory Play


Cracking episode this. Showing that things aren't forgotten, and that tensions still run high, especially where the crash is concerned. Was it sabotage or an accident ??

We knew other escape pods might be out there, and this is the first (other than the Morgans, who found them), this is the first one they come across. Unfortunately, these guys haven't been as lucky as Adair's group.

We get a little background on Danziger and his previous relationship with the stricken pair.

Two things that I like about this episode; the flashbacks, which provide an eerie insight into the events around the crash, and the fact that extras on this show do actually get stuff to do; ie. Baines.

The key to stopping the virus is amusing, as is Morgan's bartering technique with the Grendler; "Erm, if you could just....slobber, a little, in this....." :lol:

The resolution is rather sad, yet wonderful at the same time. Fierstein lies to protect Wentworth, even though she's gone, as we finally learn that there was indeed a saboteur aboard. Creepy also that she knew nothing about it, the Council once again at their most sinister. I'm still not too sure how the virus actually came about, I'm fairly sure the science behind that one was a little flawed :lol:

Fierstein's passing was touching, just as the cure was on the way, but instead passing against the sunset.

But, the big moment in this episode is the sting in the tail, as Heller finally makes contact with the Reilly and the Council, revealing herself to be a spy :o

Beyond First Contact, the best episode so far IMO.

Crichton Kicks - March 7, 2005 09:47 PM (GMT)
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Water


Nice to see them tackling a plausible problem. Given the climate, and given their predicament it was only a matter of time before they began having water supply problems. Here, it rears it's ugly head.

This episode works by placing it's two strongest characters together. There's been a little tension there for the previous episodes; both with their different attitudes; Devon being authoritive and in control, Danziger, the free spirit who distrusts authority. Opposites, but w**king well together and off each other. Helped by the fact that both Clancy Brown and Debrah Farentino are fantastic in their roles.

We also see a different side to the Terrians, who up until now have been helpful to a degree. It's difficult to identify their intentions with this one, but all eventually turns out well as they locate water in the most unexpected of places, thanks, finally, to the Terrians once again.

Once again, the episode ends with a nice touch, again hinging on something we take for granted :)

Crichton Kicks - March 7, 2005 09:55 PM (GMT)
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The Church of Morgan


Another cracking episode, and the show is really hitting it's stride now.

Surreal in places, and set entirely in one location, a beautiful location it might also be said. You did wonder what the hell was going on at the beginning with Morgan jamming :lol:

Tensions are once again running high, and probably the strongest relationship on the show so far appears to be cracking. Bess does what she thinks is the right thing, but doesn't take into account Morgan's jealous naivety. It's a welcome change to see Morgan actively interacting with other members of the group, and he gets some quality time with Alonso and later Danziger as well.

Reilly appears to be becoming more prominent in the series, forcing Julia's hand a little, as things begin to be set in motion. With the increased risks, it's surely only a matter of time before she's discovered.

Morgan, finally makes amends with a very touching scene as he finally opens up to a VR version of Bess's father, not realising that Bess herself is standing right in front of him in the real world hearing everything.

The marriage scenes were as beautiful as the following dance was bizarre. Loved the contrasting images of VR and then out in the real world where they're just dancing around in a clearing :lol:

The introductions do w**k well don't they ?? :)

laughitupfuzzball - March 7, 2005 09:59 PM (GMT)
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Beyond First Contact, the best episode so far IMO.
re A Memory play

I think I would agree with you on that, it was full of tension and the crash flashbacks were excellent :)

The only thing I could think of re the chip is if it had something to do with her brain tumour :blink:


In Water I liked that Danziger and Devon were thrown into a close situation but it doesn't go the attraction route although there may be a little between them but dealt more with mutual respect of each other :thumbsup:

Crichton Kicks - March 7, 2005 10:04 PM (GMT)
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The Enemy Within


Fantastic. This one, for me, is the episode of the series, as the Julia/Reilly arc finally comes to a head.

We knew it was only a matter of time before Julia got caught out.

The interaction, and game of cat and mouse between Reilly and Heller has been one of the best bits of the series over previous episodes, and it continues here. Julia determined in her course of action, manipulating Reilly by lying to him, and then taking the risky step of taking Uly's DNA and injecting it in herself. Reilly's concerns were well founded as Julia doesn't exactly NOT make it obvious :lol:

You knew the writing was on the wall, as soon as she went to Morgan. Did you honestly see him doing anything other than what he was about to do, ie. tell the others ?? :lol: Although it comes as no surprise that Morgan even get's his ass kicked by the good Doctor to prevent him from talking, as Julia realises her mistake in confiding with him.

Loved the scene where Devon tricks Julia into revealing where she hid Morgan and what she was up to.

Luckily for Julia, she's forged an ally in Alonso, she'll need him in coming episodes by the looks of it.

I've mentioned before that one of this series' strong points is it's great cast. Jessica Steen is a fantastic example of this. From the start she's made the character her own, and her inner struggle is portrayed splendidly.

The ending is harsh, but logical, especially given that Julia won't give up her contact or communication device.

This is the series at it's best :thumbsup:

Crichton Kicks - March 7, 2005 10:08 PM (GMT)
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The only thing I could think of re the chip is if it had something to do with her brain tumour  :blink:


I just didn't understand how it became an airborn virus :unsure:

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In Water I liked that Danziger and Devon were thrown into a close situation but it doesn't go the attraction route although there may be a little between them but dealt more with mutual respect of each other  :thumbsup:


I think they played that with a degree of subtlety. I think the respect is the common ground that they've discovered between each other, but I think the signs are there that attraction will play a part further down the road. It's played well though, they've got their priorities right :thumbsup:

laughitupfuzzball - March 7, 2005 10:14 PM (GMT)
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I've mentioned before that one of this series' strong points is it's great cast. Jessica Steen is a fantastic example of this. From the start she's made the character her own, and her inner struggle is portrayed splendidly.



Definitely, I didn't take to her much in the beginning but when she started to contact Reilly and the conflict began I thought she was fabulous. It adds so much to her character and even though we should have less sympathy for her I had more :thumbsup:


Crichton Kicks - March 7, 2005 10:18 PM (GMT)
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I've mentioned before that one of this series' strong points is it's great cast. Jessica Steen is a fantastic example of this. From the start she's made the character her own, and her inner struggle is portrayed splendidly.



Definitely, I didn't take to her much in the beginning but when she started to contact Reilly and the conflict began I thought she was fabulous. It adds so much to her character and even though we should have less sympathy for her I had more :thumbsup:

I think there was a conscious decision to not have Steen drawing too much attention to herself during those first few episodes. She was more than competent, but her performances were kind of understated. It just made the whole Reilly/Council arc that much more of a shock, and that much more fascinating. As a character Heller really blossomed with those episodes.

laughitupfuzzball - March 8, 2005 10:20 AM (GMT)
Reilly is also a great addition to the series, a background threat who seems capable of anything posing the question, what extremes will he go to in order to serve his agenda :thumbsup:

laughitupfuzzball - March 8, 2005 10:37 AM (GMT)
Redemption

Another great episode, w**king against the clock and a seemingly indestructable enemy.

Alonso's consceince gets the better of him and he makes the decision to go back for Julia whom he finds in a distraught state. The group are forced to halt as they wait for Alonso although many aren't willing to let Julia back in.

There is no time for a decision however as soon as she returns a projectile comes hurtling towards the group hitting Yale.

Julia manages to get the slow boring bullet out and also now makes the decision to give up her gear to Devon to prove that she is one of them.

Devon listens to a conversation between Julia and Reilly and realises what they are dealing with, both now and in the future. He does warn them however that the bullet will explode, Julia taking the bullet herself.

She proves again that she is with the group by trying to get the target away from Alonso using herself as bait. Alonso obviously quite touched by her sacrifice.

Danziger who has gone to search for the Zed, a genetically modified human like Yale only bereft of any emotions. He really ought to start listening to Devon, drop your gun and run back - does the opposite, don't run what ever you do, again does the opposite :lol:

His lesson learnt he is shot in no time but suprisingly the Zed doesn't finish him off but starts to interrogate him, they realise that he wasn't exiled to the planet, he is w**king there for the council, like a supreme prison warden.

Julia cons Reilly expertly into thinking that its Uly who has been shot and so he assists them, she also learns that he isn't even on the planet, just orbiting somewhere watching.

Again this episode is really about Julia and Reilly, Julia's decision to abandon the council and put her lot in with the Eden group, and the realisation that Reilly has only been telling her what he wants to and has been lying to her.

The final scene in VR where the group appear by her side as she declares her allegiance to them is final, they are now well and truly on their own. :thumbsup:


laughitupfuzzball - March 8, 2005 03:00 PM (GMT)
Moon Cross

Another total change. They are now in the mountains, the temperature is falling fast and they need to find shelter for the oncoming winter.

Uly shows them to a place - Mary's garden where they can set up camp. How freaky is it the way he knows, has he been there before or did the Terrians tell him.

The greenhouse is quite spooky, I've always found them to be a little creepy and they make full use of it with the additions of ghosts from the past images that appear only to Devon it seems. Something bad happened there.

Alonso has also had another dream, the Terrians have told him in two nights its moon cross and time for Uly.

Devon terrified of losing Uly chooses to believe that her promise has been honoured and they owe them nothing more. Alonso is attacked by Terrians but these aren't the normal kind, he is saved by Mary, she appears human but behaves like a Terrian.

He tries to get her to speak although she is reluctant and she helps to explain what Moon cross is to the Terrians, a time of death and rebirth it seems. She is capable of going through the earth like the Terrians, like Uly - forgot to mention that before :lol:

Alsono brings Mary to the group who try to humanise her, giving her a bath and their clothes so that she appears human at least. We learn that the crime that the Terrian outcasts commited was to kill her parents, why they did we don't learn. Mary also teaches Uly how to speak Terrian and how to use one of their lightening staffs to Devon's horror.

Uly runs to the caves at mooncross, he is obviously drawn there and not afraid, the outcasts take him and bring him to the group and they are forgiven, didn't take much . Uly goes in the earth and comes out unharmed and friendship is forged between the tribes. Has he changed more?

Quite a sweet story regarding Mary although if I was them I would have got the hell out of that eery place.

:fear:

laughitupfuzzball - March 11, 2005 10:29 AM (GMT)
Better Living Through Morganite (Part 1)

A few things going on in this episode, Yale has nightmares that Devon can see on the holograms from his mechanical gloved arm. He denies having nightmares which causes Devon to question his stability and he later shows extreme aggression towards Uly.

Devon quietly speaks to Danziger about Yale and he carefully tries to suggest that they must protect the group if anything happens. This also shows that she trusts Danziger the most at this stage.

Once Danziger finds the strange energy charged rocks we find out what Morgan and Bess are doing there, they brought mining equipment with them on the hope that they would find such a precious commodity and stake a claim. Of course when setting up the geolock and Bess says we should have got the code to abort you just knew they were going to need it.

Also Yale rightly says in his anger that the group accept everything on face value not evaluating the dangers which of course is very true.

We see a different side to Bess as she becomes excited at the prospect of mining and she is also willing to lie to the group to make 'Morganite' their own. The difference between her and Morgan is that when they realise that the rocks are potentially linked to the Terrians she is willing to give up the idea whereas he is not. Bess asks him doesn't he know the difference between right and wrong - clearly not.

He decides to deceive them all and set off the geolock anyway which will petrify 1km radius, greed much
:lol:

Of course this has tragic consequences, he realises Bess is in the tunnels as is Yale and there is a desperate attempt to leave before it sets off, he conquers his fears in trying to save her so not all bad but stupid decision in the first place.

Before this the group decide without Devon that they are going to start watching Yale which fails before it begins as he goes missing, he has recognised he is a danger and does not want to risk hurting them. Again we see how close Yale and Devon are by her reactions.

The episode ends with the petrification, too late to stop the group find it and run to avoid the radius.

As it goes off it traps a Terrian in the process :o and Morgan realises what he has done

Crichton Kicks - March 12, 2005 01:03 AM (GMT)
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Redemption


For me, The Enemy Within and Redemption have always worked best as an unofficial 2-parter. That being the case, this episode delivers brilliantly on the situation perpetuated in the previous episode.

The issue of Julia, and whether or not she was going to be bought back into the fold was dealt with rather swiftly, largely through necessity it has to be said, she is the groups only Doctor afterall.

The enemy of the episode, the Zed was unnervingly creepy. Reilly confirmed that they were similar to the Yale series, only lacking any form of emotion. The part was played convincingly it has to be said.

It also becomes obvious throughout the course of the episode that Reilly is still attempting to track and locate Julia and the Eden project, Julia inadvertently narrowing his search down when he realises they're in the range of a Zed unit. You wonder at this point how close the Council are and just what kind of presence they have on the planet.

The only fault I could level at this one would be the ease by which they manage to overpower the Zed, but at least Julia's Council ID code came in useful :thumbsup:

The final scenes between Julia, (Devon) and Reilly would seem to be heaped in consequence for some later stage. You get the distinct impression that whilst Julia has finally chosen her allegiance and broken away from the Council we've far from seen the last of Reilly, which given ToQ's usual brilliance, is nothing but a good thing :)

Crichton Kicks - March 12, 2005 01:10 AM (GMT)
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Moon Cross


I must admit that during this story you (or I) really do have to wonder, just how many more people are there on this planet ?? For saying that the planet was devoid of life, and even taking into account those were Council scans that told the colonists what the Council wanted them to hear, it certainly seems to be a little crowded down there :lol:

Nice to see a change of climate, and scenery. A logical occurance given that they're traversing continents, but a nice touch none the less.

The Uly arc seems to be driven forward significantly through this episode, and it would appear that his link to the Terrians is getting stronger and stronger. We also discover that Uly wasn't the first attempt by the Terrians at forging a link between them and Humans. Will Uly succeed where they failed with Mary ?? It's also discovered that not all Terrians are friendly types :unsure:

You're right in that the Greenhouse scenes are eerie. It plays a lot better than you might expect actually.

A solid story, with Uly apparently commanding the respect of the Terrians as they bow to his wishes for the exiled Terrians be allowed access to the caves.

Interesting this one.

laughitupfuzzball - March 13, 2005 09:51 AM (GMT)
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I must admit that during this story you (or I) really do have to wonder, just how many more people are there on this planet ?? For saying that the planet was devoid of life, and even taking into account those were Council scans that told the colonists what the Council wanted them to hear, it certainly seems to be a little crowded down there



It does seem to have been inhabited for quite some time, a huge council secret by the sounds of it. Not so new Pacifica :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - March 16, 2005 07:03 PM (GMT)
Better Living Through Morganite, Part II

The main story of the three sentenced to die by the Terrians and the groups attempts to stop them and also depetrify the land (new word I've made) takes second place to the fascinating Yale storyline.

Somehow through the charged stones that the Terrians use for communicating Yale is able to see his own real memories, he has been living in guilt thinking he slaughtered innocents and it is slowly revealed that he was punished not for killing them but for saving them by killing another soldier :o

Realising his innocence, he is a good man not the monster he thought he regrets his choice to die in the place of the others.

The Terrians are having none of it - harsh, but Mary is touched, her human side showing through and who eventually saves him, causing her own banishment, she isn't ready to become human again and yet has lost the trust of the Terrians being stopped from being able to sink into the sand :(

We see again the different approach that Devon and Danziger have, Danziger willing to do whatever is necessary and Devon wanting to negotiate. We also learn more about Devon and Yales history.

Yale also reveals that the memories of the greenhouse he has aren't false he has been there before - spooky :o

Like that Morgan finally redeems himself by being willing to act as a conduit and receiving multiple electrocutions for his trouble :lol: a suitable punishment for his greed :thumbsup:

laughitupfuzzball - March 16, 2005 07:18 PM (GMT)
Grendlers in the Mist

The group are becoming more confident, tracking Grendlers now in order to find some warmer clothes and supplies.

Its quite a confusing episode, mystery broadcasts from a woman trying to communicate with her son only they can't respond to her or find the source of her signal.

They also come across a masked man who attacks them and believe they must save the woman and child from him. (masks always freaky)

They slowly piece together the story only to find that the signal is an old recording from a hologram and the masked man is her now adult son. This again shows that the Council have been sending people here for a long time.

Love Morgan getting caught by said masked man and left dangling from a tree :lol:

Nice story and scenery but I felt it a little muddled.




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