right a quick question. Obviously about the wraith. :)

here goes.

Ok everytime i have watched the show, and the wraith have been mentioned every one has described them as an 'evil' species. Fair enough thats their perogative.

what i wanna know is, how evil is it to be hungry??? All these people wanna avoid is starving to death. How many times has Weir walked into a Mickey D's and just randomly gobbled down a burger, without thinking that she is doing the same as the wraith; Eating to survive.

and fair enough the meat eaters might jump in and say. The people they eat are not exactly cows. but think about it this way.

Humans in the SG world have only started (10 years ish) travelling to other planets. the Wraith have being doing it for millenia. And in the majority of planets, the wraith have found themselves the more advanced in every sense of the word, so the people they eat are the same as cows that humans eat.

Ok, basically i mean: How evil are the Wraith for just trying to survive???

(i realise that the post may seem a bit jumbled, i got a bit confused with where i was going lol)

or is this just the point of view of an obviously troubled veggie :rolleyes:

The wraith (and the go'a'uld) are obviously evil, as they do evil melodrama. They practically say "Bwah-ha-ha, I'm so evil!"


Seriously though Good and Evil are abstract terms. They depend entirely on from which point you view them. Some of the worlds most 'evil' criminals have been heroes to some. Good and Evil basically meaningless terms used by religious leaders and politicians (and tabloid newspapers). No-one in real life is actually evil. Everyone thinks they are acting for the right reasons, even the hitlers and Osamas of this world.

Stargate does touch on this question occasionally. Have you seen the SG1 episode 'Pretense', where the team have to argue in a court of law that Skara has the right to his own body, rather than the go'a'uld that is possessing him? It puts forward some good examples of why the go'a'uld aren't really evil either.

In one of the replicator eps, theres a line where Daniel (or maybe sam) says "The replicators are only as evil as a virus". Then Jack says "A really evil virus!"


P.S. Welcome to the boards Craig. :)

i understand what your saying.

I just dont understand how characters on the show, who eat meat can call another species evil on the sole basis that they eat meat. Hypocritical much?

fair enough, if Tayla's people were all vegetarian, but when the humans on atlantis call them evil, its just a bit silly.

but, if someone was trying to eat me, i might have a tendancy to call them evil, though i am a veggie so am allowed lol

Well, technically, I suppose that its hypercritical.

In sci-fi, they often make a differentiation that its OK to eat non-senient lifeforms, and its only 'evil' to kill sentient ones, even if you then go on to eat them. Unfortunately, this is a very weak justification that just-so happens to fit in with our lifestyles. There is no reason to differentiate between species that can talk and those that can't. Death is still death.


By the way, I'm a meat eater, but I justify it as I think that death is very much part of cycle of life. I really don't have an issue with it, and fully invite the worms to tuck in when I'm pushing up the daisies. The only thing that I don't like is the horrible condtions that many animals are kept in these days. At least the death part is quick. I'm fairly careful where I buy my meat these days.

Humanity has never gone to another planet and subjigated it's inigenous species, for the reason of feeding though. Have we? :blink:

what I believe they are calling evil is just that. They moved in on a planet, immediately took over and began eating the populace. That's hardly going to fall into anyones definition of "good guy" behaviour.

I do understand what your saying, my boyfriend is fiercely veggie :rolleyes: and i get "The Arguement" every time I put some meat in the freezer/fridge/oven/mouth. But I rise above it. i know that I'm better than him just purely because i eat meat. :lol: :innocent:

I've got a gay friend who won't eat meat, but will eat fish.





Typical lesbian
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You'd better watch out you don't p*ss off the Dungaree brigade :fear: Some of them can grow to be twice the height of Godzilla when they're angry :fear: :fear: :ph43r:

Some of my best friends are lezzas. I am a fully paid up lez-bez (lesbian version of fag-hag).

thanks for the explanation, now what's a fag-hag :rolleyes: :stoopid:

:rolleyes: Girl who hangs out with Gay men

no, we havent went to other planets and taken the indgenous animal for food, but basically thats only because there is still plenty of food on our planet. If there was a food shortage and we had a stargate, i feel pretty confident that egular hunting parties would be sent through. We just havent had the opportunity as a species to plunder any other planet than our own . . .yet :shifty:

never heard of a 'lez bez' i have tyo say, but i thought that everyone knew what a fag hag was???

cool, you learn soemthing new everyday lol

:huh: ps i love these emoticons!

craig

Apparently they've just discovered a frozen sea on mars, so we can all look forward to martian fish fingers at some point.

P.S. My mates made up Lez-bez, but it seemed appropriate

well count me out for the martian fish fingers. Though if there were martian Quorn fingers, i may be intersted LOL

Isn't Quorn brilliant? :thumbsup:

I'm mad for it, and I'm not even a veggie :blink:

yup, if it wasnt for quorn i would be stuck with :fear: TOFU :fear:

and we all know how scary that would be :)

:lol: @ CG

we do indeed :lol:

I have been classified as a "fag bangle" as I apparently have more female friends than male friends :o

Well, I did w**k my way through a lot of them when I was younger (that never goes well.) :lol:

Give us time :rolleyes: