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Angel Eyes - February 1, 2005 03:14 PM (GMT)
Afternoon all,

Now dont all kill me for asking this question but what actually happened to Mulders sister as i used to watch the x files when i was younger then i tried to watch it when it was on on a friday evening, and that is the one of the things i have always wanted to know, or is it one of those that we will never know the answer to?
Confused? You will be ;)
Thanks

Lauz x

willowroolz - February 1, 2005 03:45 PM (GMT)
I didn't write this, so I absolve myself of all guilt if it's inaccurate :innocent: :lol:






***** SPOILERS *****







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Name

Samantha Ann Mulder ("Paper Clip.") Though in "Conduit". Her middle name began with "T".

Date of birth

November 21 1965 ("Paper Clip", superceding date given in "Conduit.")
 

Childhood

She and Fox used to play "all-day pick-up games" of baseball , ride their bikes to the beach and eat baloney sandwiches ("Home") She once fell out of swing the summer before she was abducted and broke her collar bone ("Paper Hearts").

Appearance

As a girl, long dark hair in braids. Seen in the flashback sequences in "Little Green Men" and "Paper Hearts" and as a clone in "Herrenvolk." She is different in the first season, though - like in "Miracle Man" and the photographs Mulder has. Grown-up (if the Redux II Samantha is the real one) her hair seems inexplicably lighter, and wavy. She is the same actress as the one who played the Samantha clones in "Colony".

Samantha's abduction
What we know for certain is that she disappeared on the evening of November 27th 1973, when Fox was babysitting for her. She has never been found.

Mulder's memories

These vary, a result of Wong and Morgan writing "Little Green Men" without having seen "Conduit." However, the varied memories can be seen to illustrate the fact that Mulder sometimes doubts the validity of his own memory of the event, which after all was only recalled by regression hypnosis. This is the doubt that makes the story of "Paper Hearts" possible.

In "Conduit" the memory is of lying in bed listening as Samantha called for help, but unable to see her or to move at all. He recalled a bright light and a presence in the room, and a voice in his head telling him to be afraid - that no harm would come to her. "I want to believe," he says.

In "Little Green Men", we see the abduction as a dream. In this memory (the same one as we see in "Paper Hearts") the Mulders were spending the evening at their neighbours, the Galbreds. Samantha and Fox were arguing over what television channel to watch and were playing a game of Stratego. Richard Nixon was on television while Fox was waiting for "The Magician" at nine o'clock, but Samantha wanted to change channels and screamed when he refused. ("Get out of my life," he told her, rather unfortunately). She was dressed for bed, but wasn't actually in bed. Mulder was wearing a football shirt. When Samantha was abducted, Fox actually saw her rising into the air and floating away. He went for the gun, but couldn't get to it. As a alien type figure stood at the door, he was paralysed and unable to do anything.

Mulder had no memory of any of this until undergoing regression hypnosis under Dr Heitz Werber (seen in the Pilot episode). His tapes are dated June 16, and the date is usually given as 1989.

The Consortium involvement

From "Paper Clip," we learn that Bill Mulder started having doubts about his project he was involved in and wanted to expose it. It was decided that one his children would be taken as hostage to ensure his silence. He was given the choice, though he tried to make his wife choose. She says she couldn't chose - it was his decision and she hated him for it. From the files found in "Paper Clip" it seems as if Fox was originally going to be the one who was taken. Did Bill change his mind? Did they decide to take Fox, but Bill persuaded them not to. Did Bill chose to keep Samantha but they tricked him by taking her instead, reasoning the more loved child was a better hostage?

However, in "One Son" we get a different explanation, which we are now supposed to see as the truth. According to this, the Consortium has done deals with their alien allies. In 1973, the colonists demanded that their human allies each hand over a loved one or family member, who would, presumably, be held in order to ensure obedience. On a plus side, though, the abducted people would have processes done on them which would make them immune when the date came, so would survive. When colonisation itself started, all the rest of the Syndicate would also be abducted and turned into hybrids, thus allowing them too to survive. CSM handed over his wife, Cassandra; the others handed over loved ones of their own. Bill Mulder, however, who disagreed with the alliance, refused. Thus, while all the others were taken from an air force base, Samantha was taken from home.

There is also the fact that clones of Samantha appear in the Canadian bee farm place ("Herrenvolk") and that the green-blooded clones in "End Game" tell Mulder she is alive - which is the reason they know enough about him to enable them to trick him into thinking one of their number is indeed his sister. Before nearly killing him, the Bounty Hunter also tells Mulder his sister is alive.

Samantha's memories

In Redux II, "Samantha" is returned. Mulder believes it is the real Samantha, but we have no proof yet. Also, even if we do find out that it is the real Samantha, her own memories could well be false, so it still tells us nothing much about what really happened back in 1973.

Samantha tells Mulder that she was raised by foster parents who told she was an orphan. Then one night they took her to a hotel room, told her she was going to see her real father, who was Cancerman. As for the night of her abduction, she says she remembers Mulder, and then "something, then men." Mulder says, "I can help you remember. You were abducted." She begins to cry and says she doesn't want to remember. Mulder holds her hand, but she grows almost hysterical, pulling away.

While she seems to have tried half-heartedly to find Mulder - Cancerman (lying to her, of course) came to her recently and said that he had found Fox, at last, and she says she wishes she knew how to contact him - she is certainly not driven in the same way as he is. She shows no desire to see her mother, and is surprised to find out that she is still alive.

She seems to be happy in her new life, with children, and with a father who seems to be a find father - he strokes her hair as they drive away.

With Cancerman (apparently) dead, Mulder believes that he has no way of finding Samantha again, and that he has been given her only to lose her again.

The effect on the family

In the Pilot episode, Mulder says it tore the family apart and no-one would speak of what happened. As soon as he could he got out and went to England.

In "Colony" and "End Game" we begin to see how the family was torn apart. Mulder's parents are separated, and Bill Mulder is cold towards his son, refusing to hug him. Mrs Mulder talks about suffering years of sleepless nights. The very hostile attitude Bill Mulder takes when the pseudo-Samantha is lost over the bridge certainly suggests that he has blamed his son for losing Samantha the first time. Maybe as Mulder had access to a gun, he thinks he should have been able to save her.

The "Anasazi" trilogy adds to the guilt and reproach within the family. Mrs Mulder blames her husband for having got into a position in which he has to choose which child to keep. "I hated him," she says. "I hate him still."

The effect on Mulder

Despite what he says in "Oubliette" (that not everything in his life can be traced back to this one childhood incident). This subject is central to Mulder's character.

Nick - February 1, 2005 04:08 PM (GMT)
Having read that WR what's the answer??? :huh: :lol:

willowroolz - February 1, 2005 04:10 PM (GMT)
It's The X Files, there is no answer :lol:

Persephone - February 1, 2005 04:17 PM (GMT)
iirc, and very briefly, Samantha was 'given' to the Aliens by her father. He was told he had to sacrifice one of his children, and choose Samantha, I think :unsure:

The Aliens are amongst us :ph43r: :lol: :lol:

Angel Eyes - February 1, 2005 04:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Feb 1 2005, 04:17 PM)
iirc, and very briefly, Samantha was 'given' to the Aliens by her father. He was told he had to sacrifice one of his children, and choose Samantha, I think :unsure:

The Aliens are amongst us :ph43r: :lol: :lol:

Thanks for all your replies everyone :thumbsup:
Lauz x

LoobiLou - February 2, 2005 07:10 PM (GMT)
Wasn't it that CSM took Samantha (and made it took like an alien abduction) to a military base where she grew up and they ran painful tests on her, but then the walkins took her before something really bad happened? We learnt this in S7's Closure, didn't we :unsure:

Persephone - February 2, 2005 07:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rob @ Feb 2 2005, 07:10 PM)
Wasn't it that CSM took Samantha (and made it took like an alien abduction) to a military base where she grew up and they ran painful tests on her, but then the walkins took her before something really bad happened? We learnt this in S7's Closure, didn't we :unsure:

ah, but I'm sure in season 9 CSM came clean about the the whole alien conspiracy. It's been a while since I watched it :unsure:

I so need to watch some X Files ;)

Crichton Kicks - February 2, 2005 07:23 PM (GMT)
My understanding's always been the one Rob put forward, about the Walkins.

LoobiLou - February 2, 2005 07:29 PM (GMT)
I’m quite certain Samantha was never taken by the Aliens, but by CSM. But it was never clear if CSM told Bill Mulder that he gave her to the aliens or kept her for his own tests, all he did was ask Bill to choose who got taken, Samantha or Fox :unsure: We were left with the impression that Bill didn’t know though, because when Mulder found out where she’d been all these years and read her diary, she didn’t say anything about Bill :unsure:

Persephone - February 2, 2005 07:38 PM (GMT)
I'm still confused, definitly going for CSM being involved though :blink:

I kinda skipped from season 5 to season 9, just catching the odd ep here and there.

I keep looking at the boxsets on the shelf, feeling guilty about not watching them, but it's nine seasons :o :lol: :lol:

Crichton Kicks - February 2, 2005 07:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Feb 2 2005, 07:38 PM)
I keep looking at the boxsets on the shelf, feeling guilty about not watching them, but it's nine seasons :o :lol: :lol:

I was planning on burning through my first 5 sets. After a month or two, I've got through the first season and 2 episodes of season 2 :rolleyes:

(I'll use my get out of jail free card), it's Steve's fault.....:lol:

LoobiLou - February 2, 2005 07:46 PM (GMT)
I watched S1 to 9 very recently, again and again B)

Persephone - February 2, 2005 07:46 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Angel @ Feb 2 2005, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Feb 2 2005, 07:38 PM)
I keep looking at the boxsets on the shelf, feeling guilty about not watching them, but it's nine seasons  :o  :lol:  :lol:

I was planning on burning through my first 5 sets. After a month or two, I've got through the first season and 2 episodes of season 2 :rolleyes:

(I'll use my get out of jail free card), it's Steve's fault.....:lol:

Oi, I'm using that one, get your own excuse :lol: :lol: :lol:

Crichton Kicks - February 2, 2005 07:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rob @ Feb 2 2005, 07:46 PM)
I watched S1 to 9 very recently, again and again B)

Bloody students :p

Crichton Kicks - February 2, 2005 07:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Feb 2 2005, 07:46 PM)
QUOTE (Angel @ Feb 2 2005, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Feb 2 2005, 07:38 PM)
I keep looking at the boxsets on the shelf, feeling guilty about not watching them, but it's nine seasons  :o  :lol:  :lol:

I was planning on burning through my first 5 sets. After a month or two, I've got through the first season and 2 episodes of season 2 :rolleyes:

(I'll use my get out of jail free card), it's Steve's fault.....:lol:

Oi, I'm using that one, get your own excuse :lol: :lol: :lol:

But it's so plausible :lol:

We could all blame Steve, he'll get a complex :lmao:

LoobiLou - February 2, 2005 07:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Angel @ Feb 2 2005, 07:49 PM)
QUOTE (rob @ Feb 2 2005, 07:46 PM)
I watched S1 to 9 very recently, again and again B)

Bloody students :p

Three days of college a week, four days of X Files :lol:

Crichton Kicks - February 2, 2005 07:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rob @ Feb 2 2005, 07:51 PM)
QUOTE (Angel @ Feb 2 2005, 07:49 PM)
QUOTE (rob @ Feb 2 2005, 07:46 PM)
I watched S1 to 9 very recently, again and again B)

Bloody students :p

Three days of college a week, four days of X Files :lol:

Nice to see that my taxes don't go to waste :lol:

LoobiLou - February 2, 2005 07:59 PM (GMT)
They are much appreciated, really :rolleyes: :lol:

Crichton Kicks - February 2, 2005 08:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rob @ Feb 2 2005, 07:59 PM)
They are much appreciated, really :rolleyes: :lol:

Better spent on students than immigrants :rolleyes:

willowroolz - February 3, 2005 09:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Angel @ Feb 2 2005, 07:50 PM)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Feb 2 2005, 07:46 PM)
QUOTE (Angel @ Feb 2 2005, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Feb 2 2005, 07:38 PM)
I keep looking at the boxsets on the shelf, feeling guilty about not watching them, but it's nine seasons  :o  :lol:  :lol:

I was planning on burning through my first 5 sets. After a month or two, I've got through the first season and 2 episodes of season 2 :rolleyes:

(I'll use my get out of jail free card), it's Steve's fault.....:lol:

Oi, I'm using that one, get your own excuse :lol: :lol: :lol:

But it's so plausible :lol:

We could all blame Steve, he'll get a complex :lmao:

What? Another one?!! :fear: :lol: :lol:

Crichton Kicks - February 3, 2005 05:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (willowroolz @ Feb 3 2005, 09:08 AM)
QUOTE (Angel @ Feb 2 2005, 07:50 PM)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Feb 2 2005, 07:46 PM)
QUOTE (Angel @ Feb 2 2005, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Feb 2 2005, 07:38 PM)
I keep looking at the boxsets on the shelf, feeling guilty about not watching them, but it's nine seasons  :o  :lol:  :lol:

I was planning on burning through my first 5 sets. After a month or two, I've got through the first season and 2 episodes of season 2 :rolleyes:

(I'll use my get out of jail free card), it's Steve's fault.....:lol:

Oi, I'm using that one, get your own excuse :lol: :lol: :lol:

But it's so plausible :lol:

We could all blame Steve, he'll get a complex :lmao:

What? Another one?!! :fear: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:




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