Saw this one last night. BSG still goes from strength to strength. I wasn't expecting BSG to be able to do humour, but the toilet scene was very funny. It was also funny when Shelly Godfrey turned up, and Gaius pretends he can't see her.

James Callis is turning into one of the stars of this series. He is just soooo slimy. I do wonder though how he gets away with talking to himself all the time. Looks like hes now a fully paid up cylon agent.

I loved the way Shelly Godfrey tried it on with Adama, and he wasn't having any of it.

The Caprica story line seems to be moving on. I suspect that the human cylons are all based on DNA taken from humans, which is why the Boomerbot wants to do the nasty with Helo.

BSG Boomer seemed to let her guard down a bit when she was getting sexy with the Cylon Raider (or was that for Tyrols benefit?)

Where do you reckon the President Cancer storyline is going? I can't see them writing out such a good character in a single season, but then, I can't see them copping out either.

How long will it be until we get an episode that's not better than the one before? The BSG team can't keep this standard up forever, surely? 'Six Degrees...' was a cracker of an episode IMO.

I must admit, of all the threads we've seen thus far, the Gaius/Number 6 storyline is the least compelling, for me, but this episode was a real revelation. I agree, Bakhesh, James Callis is doing an excellent job. (Does he remind anyone else of Alexander Siddig, or is it just me?) Slimy isn't the word for it! But it's clear that some people can see through him, and he was very lucky the photograph proved to be a fake, but I guess that was part of Number 6's plan. I can't see her slipping up on that one. Did 'Shelley' really think she'd get anywhere coming onto Adama?

Again, loving the Caprica thread. Is Boomer really into Helo, or is she just playing him, Number 6 style? I can't believe the Cylon bots couldnt see them while they were hiding out on the bridge. Just what are they up to? What do they have to gain by keeping him alive?

Again, I agree Bakhesh... the BSG Boomer's reaction to the Cylon ship was very sexual. And the sight of the word 'Cylon' painted on her mirror was quite striking, although it's too obvious to assume that it's the chief that did that. The president's cancer story arc is intriguing too... like Bakhesh, I can't believe the crew will pull any punches on that score, although I have to say I enjoy the pres as a character, and it would be a shame to see her written out early.

Take care,

Andrew (HM) :upside:

Your not the only one. In the miniseries I was really pleased to see Alexander Siddig w**king again. I couldn't believe it wasn't him at the end.

I think they are toying with Helo. My theory is (and it is just a theory, not spoilery) is that they want his DNA to make a new model of Cylon. This whole setup seems to be to get him together with Boomer. Number Six said she wanted a baby in the first ep. Maybe this is part of the divine plan, to cross breed with humans. Seeing as the Cylons are soooo human now, I assume they are engineered from original human DNA.

I think the Toaster-Cylons could easily have caught them by now, but they don't want to. They just want Helo to think they are after him. When he rescued Boomer last week, the Toaster-cylon had him in his sights. He could easily of shot him, but he waited while Helo crawled over to his gun and fired first.

I assumed this was done by boomer herself when in cylon mode. The Cylon mode personality doesn't seem to care if she leaves clues for human boomer to find. On the other hand, writing 'Cylon' isn't really a clue, more of a direct accusation.

One of the things I've been wondering is who left Adama the note in the miniseries (the one that said "There are only 12 models of Cylon"). Maybe this was the same person. If so, it would seem that the humans have an ally somewhere.

Now that's an interesting point, Bakhesh. They are constantly pointing out that there are some Cylons that are unaware they are actually Cylons. BSG Boomer clearly feels she is human, although she does seem to be having her worries sometimes. There is no reason why she shouldn't have written that while in Cylon mode to freak 'herself' out. Having a basket case of a fighter pilot maybe useful. On the other hand, Caprica Boomer obviously knows she is Cylon.

My guess, on further thought, is that Shelly Godfrey may well have believed she was human.

You mentioned the point that there are only 12 varieties of Cylon... we haven't met them all yet have we, so they could be anyone couldn't they?

The suspense is really being ratcheted up, and the more you actually sit back and think about the show, the better it actually appears!

Take care,

Andrew (HM) :upside:

Thats what I don't get. Why would any cylon agent leave a note for Adama giving him vital information. There must be a third party in here somewhere.

I must admit, I kinda assumed this. I think its because I used to read the Hulk, and the Grey Hulk and Bruce Banner used to leave messages for each other on the mirror. When I thought about it though, I can't think of any good reason for Boomer to do it.


I was thinking about the fact that we've only seen 4 cylon models so far. I bet someone else on the crew is a cylon, but I doubt we'll find out for a while. Haven't got a clue who though. I imagine it'll be a shock when it happens.

I though Shelly Godfrey though she was human at first. She seemed quite convincing when Gauis burst in when she was in the loo (good job she hadn't started yet). Changed my mind though when she was trying it on with Adama. She seemed to know what she was doing.

It's not just you! :lol:

I was preparing myself this week, no matter how good the episode was, to come on here and mention that the one thing the series doesn't do is humour. I was worried that it might be in danger of taking itself a little bit too seriously.

But blow me down if they haven't gone and solved that problem this week. Terrific episode, very funny, very tense, and I could almost feel myself panicking along with Baltar.

"No more Mister Nice Gaius"

:lol:

Just one question: Kara could barely walk, how on Earth did she manage to get herself into the Cylon raider? :unsure:

Saw this one last night. I didn't think they'd better last week's episode so quickly, but as you've both pointed out above, it was another cracker.

Tbh, the Baltar storyline's the one that I'm finding most compelling, if for nothing else than James Callis' fantastic performances so far. I'm quite pleased that the new series, even though introducing the old characters, isn't writing them in the same way. Their character arc's and progression appear to be following different paths, which is a good thing in my book.

I think with regards to the humanoid Cylons, we can pretty much lay money on the fact that there's more aboard the fleet. You can just imagine a reveal factoring into a seasonal cliffhanger.

It's a cracking series so far, and one I didn't really expect before the mini aired. Now, it's the best space-borne show on TV, for my money !! :thumbsup:

Tighe's inspirational speech obviously did the trick ;)

I've been thinking about that note a lot recently and my opinion is that the Cylons have a Fifth Column, which are all about peace.

I reckon as the Cylons are so advanced, there are a number of Cylons that have determined that war is not best for them, these are the allies I think the humans need to find :)

My theories on what's going on...

1. The BSG Boomer, does not know that she is a Cylon, though I think she has a fair idea that she might be. I think she knows on a subconcious (or should that be sub processor) level, and that could be where the Cylon mirror Graffitti came from.

2. Baltar is a complete idiot. He thinks he can play both sides against the middle and not deal with the consequences. "His acceptance of the one true God" was awfully convenient. I can't believe number 6 fell for it. But then she is just an evolved toaster.

3. Caprica. Hmm, not too sure where this is going. Helo, may be a lab rat. The Cylons are using him and his fight/flight reactions to base their next moves against the rest of humanity. Or they could just be using him in a Cylon reality TV show? Anythings possible you know? :lol:

Not sure on that one Jamie. Seems to me that's exactly what he's doing, and rather well.

The Baltar thread is the most interesting one on the show at the moment IMO.

He's doing the self preservation thing. Telling both sides what they want to hear and hoping noone catches on. The scene where the President saw right through him, terrified him, as he must have thought she was the easiest mark in the fleet. I don't think that the Baltar story is the most intriguing aspect of the story so far. I have a feeling that things are going to start happening on Caprica. There were hints in tonights show (I won't go into too much detail don't worry, no spoilers here) that some big revelation is coming. Something that neither we, nor the Cylons were really expecting.

You wonder how much that scenes going to play into things in the future now though. That little perceived faux pas on the President's part has no doubt earn't him some leverage at least. Not to mention in general it's solidified his position aboard the ship. Incredibly difficult for him to be accused a second time. Perhaps time for the Cylon's agenda aboard the Galactica to manifest itself. You certainly get the impression, or I do, that the Galactica is as much the subject of a cat and mouse campaign as Helo is back on Caprica.

sorry decided original comment was too spoilery and I don't know the name of the ep to start new thread :rolleyes:


I have a theory about God (on BSG): He is the supreme Cylon commander; he's human and I reckon it's probably a self-aware clone of Gaius Baltar.

Hmmm, not so much on the third bit but I reckon the first 2 bits are almost dead certs.

You may be on to something there. But perhaps it's not Baltar. Remeber what the President was told last night.

Could that be true?????

it would explain who wrote the note, the way the enquiry went and almost everything, but I don't think it's true - I'm more concerned by the President :fear:

Hi Andrew.

No, I had to look twice. He even sounds a lot like Sid to me. Then again, Jamie Bamber reminds me of Robert Duncam MacNeill and is Grace Park any relation to Linda Park

a quick scour of the internet leads me to an inconclusive result - but having read a few bios for them both I think not :)

That could explain the empassioned hug in last nights episode i suppose.

Oh my god, now we're at it. We'll be accusing James of being a Cylon next...

Well he has been acting kind of funny (since I've known him) <_< :lmao:

Another outstanding ep! :thumbsup: The Baltar plot has gotten even more interesting, and even though you knew after seeing him pray that it was all set up by Number 6 to see Baltor in his weakened state (and to get him to believe :ermm: ) there’s still those very important questions that need answering. The BSG Boomer I think is finally coming to terms with the fact of what she is, or at least the idea of it. Perhaps a sleeper agent can overcome his or hers (or even it’s) Cylon side? :unsure: The sexy ship moment seemed a bit off, but might make more sense if the Chief acts on what he saw in the next ep, he should know for certain now about what she is, you’d have to be slightly retarded not to after that scene :lol:

Tbh, I’m hoping they kill off the President :lol: It certainly wouldn't fit to have a miracle-cure ending, and a death scene could make for some excellent emotional viewing :)

A pretty good episode with nice twists along the way.

Now it becomes apparent that the monotheism of the Cylons is a frontal attack on evangelical Christianity with 6's cliche-ridden arguments. I doubt that these writers are going to manage is convincing counterargument based on the philosophical depth of the show so far. A mixed message is probably the best I'd expect get out of them on the issue of religion. For instance, Baltar prays and gets his wish (?).

Still it was nice to see the appearance of a flesh & blood Godfrey with her accusations against Baltar -- no matter how feeble they were (video proof?). And the bathroom scene just about had me on the floor.

The commentary expressed regret that they swerved Baltar's storyline into comedy but I find it a relief becuz I wasn't enjoying his scenes until now. Callis has a difficult role and here does a good job of carrying the episode.