I know you all think I am bias as I have said before but I defy anyone not to like this miniarc.

This second episode was very well done and well acted by the main cast members and the guest stars.

It was an excellent build up to what I hope will be a spectacular finale next week.

I'm holding off watching this arc yet Ken, until it's completed next week. Then I'll watch it all :thumbsup:

I'm not fond of this arc :p

It seems they're now stretching out stories for the sake of it - so far there feels too much padding going on, and to be totally honest I got bored.

That's one risk that they face with these multi-episode arcs. I liked the way last year's Xindi arc panned out. It's a shame that they decided against another year-long story.

Ideally, they should be doing actual arcs (where you have an ongoing plotline progressing in the background of other stories so as to inject some variety) rather than 3-part stories (which despite their arc-claims, this is just what they are doing).

What is sad is that they did it well with the Xindi storyline (although some B5-esque preplanning would have gone well :)). You had your arc of the 'hunt the Expanse for the superweapon', but at teh same time you had lots of other stories going on.

You'd really have thought that they'd learnt their lesson over the past decade. Every time they've gone up against an arc-laden show, whether it be DS9 up against B5 (DS9, which to be fair did have an arc, eventually), or Voyager up against Farscape, Trek gets it's collective ass handed to it in a sling.

The three parters just don't w**k. You haven't gotten enough time to build up a satisfying arc there, and on the other hand, you're spending to much time on padding the episodes out to three episodes, when in truth the story could more effectively been told in two, or in certain cases, one episode.

some people are never satisfied. :angry:

No - just some of us happily criticise shows where it's due. Sadly for Enterprise, especially after they dealt with the arcs so well after Season 3, this feels a let down. We know they can do arcs properly, so why don't they?

You could argue that you love Enterprise and Trek so much, it's blinding you...

Season 4's just been a massively retrogressive step in terms of style and quality. It's sad, but true, as witnessed by the sliding numbers again.

I disagree (but then I would wouldnt I?)

On the whole I think season 4 has continued to improve on last year whilst at the same time tried to give the fans what they want in terms of story content.

As for the arcs, I dont know why they havent done a full season one again, I guess M.C. and co must have their reasons. I for one dont mind either way.

Manny's got his reasons alright, his hands are still tied. Manny can handle large arcs, he was well on his way with Odyssey 5 before it was cut down.

The big things that came out of the polls last year of what fans wanted from a fourth season were the Romulan war and foundation of a rudimentary Federation. Both would have been ideally suited to another long arc. Instead Berman and Braga forgot how relatively successful last season was and once again insult the viewers by maintaining that their attention spans won't last a full season.

OK, another episode that I've enjoyed. There are a few things that I'm find intriguing. Throughout Enterprise it's been clear that the Vulcans were completely different to the way we'd known them. It's obvious that there would need to be a major shift somewhere to move from the paranoid, xenophobic Vulcan's we've seen so far into the people we've met in earlier incarnations of Trek.

I do find it a contrivance that Archer is apparently the conduit for that change, a re-awakening I guess. It was nice to see Surak, but I think the idea of his katra taking over Archer... I didn't like that

And who would have guessed that T'Pau would have been such a babe when she was younger!

Again, enjoyed Gary Graham's performance as Serval. Shame we haven't seen more of him on the show really.

Whilst I wouldn't go as far as Phillip and James have in criticising this season of the show, I wouldn't go as far as Ken either. I've enjoyed it. I don't think it's as bad as it's been made out. I'd far, far prefer to watch an episode of Enterprise than I would 90% of Voyager. I do think things have gone backwards since season 3. I think that, having made the brave decision to go with a season long arc (and in the context of Trek, it was a brave decision) it was definately a backward step not sticking with it. I do feel that the decision to cancel the show was made way before season 4 aired, and the crew and cast were always onto a loser. Especially with the scheduling and budgetary restrictions imposed on them. To be honest, all things considered, season 4 has been better than I was expecting so far, and I hope it continues!

Andrew (HM) :yahoo:

Ken = Defender of ENTERPRISE till the end

(and theres only 4 more to go - well there is on the ones i have watched)

Glad you liked this one Hovis, I think the only problem has been that it is obvious that ARCHER has been turned into the pivotal character of the whole trek mythos and yet we have never heard of him before ENTERPRISE aired.

By the way if you liked this one went until you get to the mirror universe story

I am enjoying season 4 immensely, even if it does have its flaws. Right now, there is nothing on that is competing anyway, so I guess I have nothing to compare it with. The only other shows I'm watching regularly are Doctor Who and Desperate Housewives. I also saw the first episode of Boston Legal this week, which was great fun, but none of those are really comparable with Enterprise I suppose.

I'm a bit worried about the whole Archer thing... are we going to get some kind of BRB in the finale which shows us why we've never heard of Archer before? I can't think of anything worse, personally.

I do like the idea of the Mirror Universe story. I loved the DS9 visits, they were fun, and a great excuse for the cast to ham it all up! I trust that the Enterprise
crew get that chance too!

Well, really looking forward to next Tuesday's show now.

Andrew (HM) :yahoo: