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Crichton Kicks - October 29, 2004 09:13 PM (GMT)
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There is an explosion in one of the fighter bays just days before the president is to visit Babylon 5. A dying man implicates Garibaldi, which is just what the head of presidential security wants to hear, as she blames him for her father's death.

Number Six - October 30, 2004 09:16 AM (GMT)
Hay, I'm first. That's a, well, a first :blink:

This is a pretty standard story. Garibaldi has to step outside the law in order to prove his innocence; his Nemesis has an old personal grudge that clouds her judgement; big hug in the final scene.

Still, we learn that President Santaigo is a terorist target and that Garibaldi has an alcohol problem, something I understand a little. Decent performance by Jerry Doyle. The scene where he falls off the wagon is good. If this where Star Trek he would have given the glass a long look, pulled a few facial contortions and poured the booze on the floor.

All in all, a workmanlike episode.

ken1701e - October 30, 2004 10:31 AM (GMT)
So Garibaldi's episode.

Decent without being spectacular it allowed us an insight to his past and we find out he has a drink problem, something I think we all could have in the correct situation.

It also showed how strong the friendship is between Sinclair and the security chief.

A good 'solid' episode but nothing special.

Orac - October 30, 2004 10:35 AM (GMT)
Nothing to write home about, this one. Nothing very original about the plot: predictable progress through the blast from Garibaldi's past, his frameup, his flight from security, attempts to clear his name, falling off the wagon, saving the day with a second remaining, woman with a grudge melting - right down to the hairstyle and the big hug... It's all very much by the numbers.

And yet, as always, there are those little pieces scattered about that form part of the overall picture. Earth isn't a cosy, united place, and President Santiago has enemies.

There's also G'Kar's marvellous line about matter, energy and enlightened self-interest...always a highlight. :D

Nothing very startling.

Crichton Kicks - October 30, 2004 03:24 PM (GMT)
Haven't watched this one yet, but from memory, all the above comments are familiar. Standard stuff, decent without ever verging on anything sublime.

More when I've rewatched it ;)

NJS - October 31, 2004 08:24 PM (GMT)
This is one of those I'd pretty much forgotten but having said that it was still okay. I guess that apert from the alcoholism angle and the hints that people don't like the Pres there wasn't much seed sowing.

One thing that did come to mind was that Kemmer had her hair tied up all episode apart from the final scene where she was more "human". For some reason it made me think of my Mam telling me how the classic Hollywood cliche before they could show any kind of flesh to show that a woman was getting ready for business was taking off her glasses and loosening her hair :)

Sorry I'm a tangent kind of thinker sometimes :)

Can't really remember the next one either but I want to plough on so I can watch Signs and Portents :thumbsup:

Hippy - November 1, 2004 05:19 PM (GMT)
What everyone else said ;)

Enjoyed this one a bit more than some of the last few, albeit the story was pretty standard fair.

Crichton Kicks - November 1, 2004 06:35 PM (GMT)
An interesting enough episode without ever adding too much. It's the kind of episode that loses out because it's often dwarfed by the more profound 'arc' episodes. In it's own right, it's a fairly solid piece of material.

We get the President's visit to B5, giving the station a little more firepower with an extra squadron of Starfuries, a first glimpse of the Presidential Earth Force One, and the distinct impression that all isn't rosy back on Earth, especially with regards to the political situation. It's quite clear here that Santiago has enemies.

Furthermore, as a character piece, this works pretty well as well. Garibaldi generates an awful lot of sympathy. His slippery decline back into the bottle is painful to watch, and there's more empathy generated for his character in this one episode than Trek sometimes managed in seasons.

Sinclair comes off well, as does Ivanaova to a greater degree, her handling of Kemmer is delightful to watch;

"I don't take orders from you, however if you have a request to make then I'll certainly consider it."

"Then may I request a Comm channel to Earth Force One ??"

"Request denied. Thank you. Ivanova out."

:lol:

You get the impression that Ivanova could be quite handy in a number of tricky situations as I'm sure we'll find out. It's hard to see Tamlyn Tomita accomplishing as much as Claudia Christian already has with her character.

The friendship between Garibaldi and Londo takes another step forward as well. After recent weeks it's a more Human side to Londo.

As mentioned earlier, MoH gets some decent scenes in this episode as well. His slap downs of Kemmer are class, especially when she's just got her own way and Jeff still manages to bitchslap her.

I'm coming to the conclusion that where Sinclair is concerned, it's not so much that I don't like him, he's just not quite as charismatic as certain other characters, or one in particular ;)

On a final note, it's interesting to note that Homeguard are still quite active back on Earth, even to the point of infiltrating Earth Force. You have to wonder how far their reach now extends.

There are already enough pieces on the table to draw together certain conclusions now. Portents if you will ;)

Michelle - November 1, 2004 10:17 PM (GMT)
Solid, if not particularly outstanding, episode. Nuff said. :)

And has the standard font changed on this board. It seems...weird. :blink:

Phillip Culley - November 2, 2004 10:26 PM (GMT)
Hurrah! This episode (along with By Any Means Necessary following it) are my two favourite 'minor' episodes (compared to the obvious important episodes)

The phrase that comes to mind here is 'Poor Mr. Garibaldi'. It's a sign of the different universe of B5 as to how when an obvious vendetta is allowed to get out of hand so fast. It's also interesting to see how at the first sign of trouble, someone who flashes the 'president's magical badge' as it were gets the practical run of the station. Still, it was nice to see Ivanova get a wonderful moment while playing word games with Kemmer, only to flatly deny her request :thumbsup:

We also get to hear about some of Garibaldi's past, and the events which lead to him being unemployable (I think this was referenced in 'Infection' previously, when Garibaldi said Sinclair was the only person to give him a job)

Aside from this, as mentioned above we get the first rumblings that something's not right up in the big happy world of Earth, and I'm sure this will soon have some effect on B5 :)

goth willow fan - November 6, 2004 08:20 PM (GMT)
Pretty much all been said already so - what you all said :)

willowroolz - February 6, 2006 01:24 PM (GMT)
Grrrr, gonna be in the minority here, but I hate this episode <_<

For me, it's about as bad as B5 gets. The situation is horribly contrived (how did someone in her, I'm assuming, mid 20s get to be the president's chief of security anyway?), the dialogue is appalling (any scene that involves Garibaldi talking about his past in typically macho phrases almost guarantees that) and the acting is as wooden as an oak tree (Elaine Thomas is so bad she just proves that Michael O'Hare really isn't as bad as some people make him out to be).

To cap it all off, the episode is horribly predictable from start to finish :yawn:

Awful <_<




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