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Title: 3.04 Self Inflicted Wounds Pt 2
Description: Wait for the Wheel


willowroolz - October 13, 2004 11:40 AM (GMT)
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When the crew discovers just how badly John's trust in the aliens was misplaced, they resume the fight to save Moya...

willowroolz - October 16, 2004 08:56 PM (GMT)
Harvey: Why is it always the gentle ones that pay the price for everyone else's ambition? Hmmm?

Told you I didn't like the cliffhanger: the resolution to it is hilariously bad, almost like one of those old Saturday matinee ones where you see the hero's car plunging over the cliff, only to discover in the next episode that he actually jumped out of the vehicle at the traffic lights five minutes earlier.

Anyway, this all leads to us discovering that Neeyala's Phaztillon generator alters the phase physicality of an object, making it invisible. She has had members of her crew running around Moya sabotaging the crew's attempts at repairs in order to make them think that the Leviathan is in a worse state than she actually is. Bitch.

After their doubts about Crichton's decision making ability, the crew has now split into two factions to deal with the problem.

D'Argo has gained access to the mysterious ship they picked up at the commerce station in Suns and Lovers, and it - and the DRDs - comes in very handy in finding the last of the invisible invaders in a very effective sequence.

Aeryn finally talks to Zhaan about what the Delvian did to save her. Aeryn's way of reviving Pilot is quite impressive.

Ah yes, the alien makeup. Very good. The way the gills open up on their heads so they can shoot out the poison darts is very effective. The male and female of the species also look distinctly different.

I love the way Rygel's whole attitude changes when he finds out that Pilot likes him. :lol:

Jool's screaming can melt metal - which proves very inconvenient and allows Neeyala to escape her shackles.

Harvey in a tuxedo :lol: :lol:

Of course, the big deal with this episode is Zhaan's death. As the situation develops it actually becomes increasingly obvious what is going to happen, but it allows her to perish in an extremely noble manner, and completely at peace. The way it is written and shot is quite harrowing, and brings to the fore how much these people - her "family" - care about each other. I've never really been that keen on her as a character. Even so, it's a very sad moment. Farscape tugs on the old heart strings better than any other show (apart from Buffy and Angel).

For large parts of season 2 Zhaan had very little to do. Virginia Hey obviously got fed up with the laborious makeup sessions each day when her character had become so underutilised. It was her decision to go, although she wanted to go at the end of season two but David Kemper decided that the best way to deal with Aeryn's resurrection was to sacrifice one of the others. As a result he struck a deal with Hey to come back for four episodes in season 3. Farscape doesn't give you anything for free - there are always consequences.

The season of death is well and truly underway.



John: Winona, don't fail me now!

D'Argo: Do you know what troubles me the most? I did my best...I did the best I could, and it wasn't enough. I still lost them both.
John: My grandmother used to say, that...life is...a great wheel. Sometimes it grinds you down into the mud, and other times it lifts you up into the light.
D'Argo: Are we strapped to this wheel?
John: That's a given. Point is, is that most times you get a second chance -- you just gotta wait for the wheel.

Aeryn: It was a bad trade, Zhaan, your health for mine.
Zhaan: Don't undervalue yourself.
Aeryn: I'm just a soldier.
Zhaan: Don't underestimate yourself.
Aeryn: I'm being realistic.
Zhaan: Don't be afraid to understand yourself. We're not as different as you assume. Violent past, no faith in the future, and then a transformative experience aboard this very ship. My time grows short, and yours stretches before you. Use it wisely.

Zhaan: Ever my protector.
D'Argo: It's not you that needs protecting -- it's the rest of the universe I fear for.

Jool: Everything I have seen so far is despicable.
John: Welcome to the Federation Starship SS Buttcrack.

John: That's my dad's tux. Take it off. This is not mine. This is not my tux.
Harvey: You may control the venue but I'm going to make sure we look good, yeah!
John: Macon…Georgia…Macon, Georgia on the way to Lauderdale.
Harvey: College spring break, hitchhiking to see the strippers in Fort Lauderdale.
John: This is the truck stop. Hey you, no you do not enter my reality. You do not talk to me in my reality. If I want you I'll call, those are the rules.
Harvey: Unacceptable. And I suggest you sue for peace now. Your distractions are many while I'm totally dedicated to getting a measure of freedom. No more dumpsters, John.

Zhaan: If I am so needed and so valued and so wise then you will honour my words. You will obey me. For the longest time I feared physical demise because my spiritual essence was suspect. But now I know I'm worthy. Now I know the transgressions have melted from my soul. Now I know I shall meet my goddess and be accepted to her bosom. Sensitive D'Argo, exuberant Chiana, wise Rygel, selfless Aeryn, innocent Crichton. My children, my teachers, my loves, there is no guilt, there is no blame, only what is meant to be. Grow through your mistakes and know that if patient redemption will find you.
John: Wait for the wheel.
Zhaan: Thank you John Crichton.

Rygel: Goodbye you big beautiful blue bitch.




laughitupfuzzball - November 4, 2004 02:44 PM (GMT)
:cry: It was Zhan's departing words to the crew that made me shed a tear. Very moving and a really well written exit.

Persephone - November 9, 2004 02:55 PM (GMT)
It's been a while B)

Okay, finally thought I better get back into the rewatch (I may have had a bit of coaxing :lol: :lol: )

Just rewatched Self Inflicted Wounds pt 1 and 2.

First off, I'm really gobsmacked Zhaan's actually gone, I hadn't realised she was written out, I mean they brought Aeryn back, from 'total' death. She obviously had a potash deficiency (sorry I know, I grow plants :lol: :lol: )

No, seriously, wow, quite a sacrifice on Zhaan's part, so close to perhaps a solution. Beautifully written parting scenes by everyone, Steve's already quoted the Rygel line, which made me laugh and cry at the same time. Stark is so close to having a nervous breakdown, this has to push him over the edge. I'm not quite sure how/why they were so close, so little screen time together but still, this is science fiction after all.

I know I really should talk about the circumstances leading up to Zhaan's self sacrifice, but it's all mumbo jumbo science speak, so I'm best leaving that alone.

Okay, clever how the crew is split in half regarding Crichton's intentions, cleverer still, how the conversations are practically identical, priceless.

Aeryn slapping pilot, okay, got the desired result, LOL @ Rygels' turnaround after discovering pilot liked him :lol:

Scorpy in a tux, very dashing :lol: Crichton in a tux, yummy :lol: :lol:

And again back to Zhaan, I think i may actually miss her, I'd started to like her with the last few eps. Quick word about Jools, will she ever stop screaming :rolleyes:



willowroolz - November 9, 2004 03:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Nov 9 2004, 02:55 PM)
Okay, finally thought I better get back into the rewatch  (I may have had a bit of coaxing :lol:  :lol: )

Who was that? I'll beat 'em up! :01: :ph43r:

QUOTE
Scorpy in a tux, very dashing :lol:  Crichton in a tux, yummy :lol:  :lol:

Yeah, welcome back Lisa... :rolleyes: :lol: ;)

Persephone - November 9, 2004 03:03 PM (GMT)
You do realise, with Alex joining in, there could be quite a few references to Ben's erm, attributes :lol: :lol:

willowroolz - November 9, 2004 03:06 PM (GMT)
Fine, fine - just so long as you lot don't call me sexist if I talk about Claudia's, erm, attributes too. :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - November 9, 2004 03:08 PM (GMT)
:lol: :lol:
QUOTE
You do realise, with Alex joining in, there could be quite a few references to Ben's erm, attributes 


I am trying to restrain myself but some comments might have to be made :thumbsup:

Persephone - November 9, 2004 03:25 PM (GMT)
;) Did I mention how nice BB's bum looked in the tux :P

willowroolz - November 9, 2004 03:28 PM (GMT)
Oi! Don't make me crack my moderator's whip, Lisa! :01: :ph43r: :lol:

Did I mention Claudia looks good in leather? :unsure:

laughitupfuzzball - November 9, 2004 03:31 PM (GMT)
:D Wait until you see season 4 lisa, most delicious BB :)

Well there are quite a few eps you will enjoy BB in S3 too. Mmmm he does look good in a tux. I'm not shallow really :lol: :lol:

:innocent:

Persephone - November 9, 2004 03:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (willowroolz @ Nov 9 2004, 03:28 PM)
Oi! Don't make me crack my moderator's whip, Lisa! :01: :ph43r: :lol:

Did I mention Claudia looks good in leather? :unsure:

What Rob gave you access to the whips, I thought it was just me. :o

aww shucks I ain't special anymore :cry: ;) :lol: :lol:

yes Steve, Claudia looks lovely in leather :rolleyes: :lol: :lol:

willowroolz - November 9, 2004 03:45 PM (GMT)
You lot talk about bums and you roll your eyes at me? Right, where's the edit button...? :evil: :whistling:

Persephone - November 9, 2004 03:55 PM (GMT)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

:angel:

laughitupfuzzball - November 9, 2004 03:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
undefinedYou lot talk about bums and you roll your eyes at me? Right, where's the edit button...? 



:lol: Come on Steve you have to forgive us, it is Ben Browder we are talking about :lol: :lol:

And we will let you rave about Claudia :D

Persephone - November 9, 2004 04:05 PM (GMT)
ooops, did we scare the rest of the board away :unsure:

There's only us left :lol: :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - November 9, 2004 04:07 PM (GMT)
:lol: :lol: Can't imagine why :lol: :lol:

willowroolz - November 9, 2004 04:08 PM (GMT)
I'm still here. For some reason I just had to do this thing called "work". Disgusting word. Should be banned. :lol:

Persephone - November 9, 2004 04:11 PM (GMT)
Disgusting, they make you work at work :o

I shouldn't say that, I have to go in couple of hours, and i have NO net access at work :cry: :cry:

Oh well, being able to pick up any CD I want to play whilst I'm work, will have to do :lol: :lol:


willowroolz - November 9, 2004 04:13 PM (GMT)
Rub it in! :lol:

I used to be able to play cds. I had earphones plugged in, but I got told off for drumming on the desk. B) :lol: :lol:

Persephone - November 9, 2004 04:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (willowroolz @ Nov 9 2004, 04:13 PM)
Rub it in! :lol:

I used to be able to play cds. I had earphones plugged in, but I got told off for drumming on the desk. B) :lol: :lol:

There have to be some compensations for having no net access :lol: :lol:

I can remember when I was still at the college having earphones on once, listening to NIN, yep funny looks all round, can't imagine why :lol: :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - November 9, 2004 04:18 PM (GMT)
:lol: count yourselves lucky at my work we have 'corporate' cds full of the absolute worst songs you have ever heard in your life. Luckily I can barely hear them from our office but I'm getting very worried with xmas coming :unsure:

willowroolz - November 9, 2004 04:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Nov 9 2004, 04:18 PM)
I can remember when I was still at the college having earphones on once, listening to NIN, yep funny looks all round, can't imagine why :lol: :lol:

My guess is they'd probably never seen a goth before. :ph43r: :lol: ;)

willowroolz - November 9, 2004 04:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (laughitupfuzzball @ Nov 9 2004, 04:18 PM)
:lol: count yourselves lucky at my work we have 'corporate' cds full of the absolute worst songs you have ever heard in your life. Luckily I can barely hear them from our office but I'm getting very worried with xmas coming :unsure:

If anyone sings along just whack 'em over the head with the biggest file you can find. :evil:

Persephone - November 9, 2004 04:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (willowroolz @ Nov 9 2004, 04:20 PM)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Nov 9 2004, 04:18 PM)
I can remember when I was still at the college having earphones on once, listening to NIN, yep funny looks all round, can't imagine why :lol:  :lol:

My guess is they'd probably never seen a goth before. :ph43r: :lol: ;)

:P

Well it was Handsworth, probably not used to a white women not having a curly perm :lol: :lol:

Funny how even the Principal knew that word, even had the cheek to tell me 'goth' was back in fashion :lol: :lol:

Not that I'm admitting it in any way B)


Persephone - November 9, 2004 04:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (willowroolz @ Nov 9 2004, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (laughitupfuzzball @ Nov 9 2004, 04:18 PM)
:lol:  count yourselves lucky at my work we have 'corporate' cds full of the absolute worst songs you have ever heard in your life.  Luckily I can barely hear them from our office but I'm getting very worried with xmas coming    :unsure:

If anyone sings along just whack 'em over the head with the biggest file you can find. :evil:

We keep all the crap Cd's for the 'Hold' music :lol: :lol:

Hopefully we won't have to endure Xmas music in HMV, I can't hear anything from the shop floor anyway ;)

willowroolz - November 9, 2004 04:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Nov 9 2004, 04:25 PM)
QUOTE (willowroolz @ Nov 9 2004, 04:20 PM)
QUOTE (Persephone @ Nov 9 2004, 04:18 PM)
I can remember when I was still at the college having earphones on once, listening to NIN, yep funny looks all round, can't imagine why :lol:  :lol:

My guess is they'd probably never seen a goth before. :ph43r: :lol: ;)

:P

Well it was Handsworth, probably not used to a white women not having a curly perm :lol: :lol:

Funny how even the Principal knew that word, even had the cheek to tell me 'goth' was back in fashion :lol: :lol:

Not that I'm admitting it in any way B)

Course not :unsure: :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - November 9, 2004 04:32 PM (GMT)
:lol: :lol:

Persephone - November 9, 2004 04:33 PM (GMT)
Okay, so I have purple hair and I'm wearing black, and that makes me a goth how :lol: :lol:

Actually that sounds even worse :lol: :lol:

willowroolz - November 9, 2004 04:36 PM (GMT)
I'm not seeing a problem. John and Aeryn wear black, Neo and Trinity wear black, it works for them. :)

Persephone - November 9, 2004 04:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (willowroolz @ Nov 9 2004, 04:36 PM)
I'm not seeing a problem. John and Aeryn wear black, Neo and Trinity wear black, it works for them. :)

Exactly ;)

laughitupfuzzball - November 9, 2004 04:40 PM (GMT)
:D I have the blue black hair variety combined with black clothes, see we're all different :lol: :lol:

Persephone - November 9, 2004 04:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (laughitupfuzzball @ Nov 9 2004, 04:40 PM)
:D I have the blue black hair variety combined with black clothes, see we're all different :lol: :lol:

Wear a lot of silver jewellery too Alex ;)

laughitupfuzzball - November 9, 2004 04:48 PM (GMT)
:lol: :lol: Only silver since about the age of 14 :lol: :lol:

I did used to get lots confiscated at school :lol: :lol:


I worked in a record shop too when I was a student :lol:

willowroolz - November 9, 2004 04:49 PM (GMT)
Am I going to have to rename another thread "Goths In Denial"? :rolleyes: :lol: ;)

laughitupfuzzball - November 9, 2004 04:59 PM (GMT)
<_< :) :lol:

I'm not in denial as such, I do wear splashes of crimson occassionally :lol:

willowroolz - November 9, 2004 05:01 PM (GMT)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I've gotta go. Don't have too much fun while I'm away! :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - November 9, 2004 05:06 PM (GMT)
:lol: Quick Lisa we can drool over Ben again :P :lol: :lol:

Persephone - November 9, 2004 05:27 PM (GMT)
You think we need Steve away to do that :lol: :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - November 9, 2004 05:33 PM (GMT)
:lol: I'm just playing devil's advocate :)





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