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willowroolz - October 5, 2004 02:49 PM (GMT)
Here's the place to post anything spoilery relating to Season 3 and onwards :)

melian - October 5, 2004 03:26 PM (GMT)
I can't quite decide why this is my favourite season. Because of the whole two Crichtons storyline, or because Zhaan bites the big one :D

BTW - what is your favourite season 3 episode?

willowroolz - October 5, 2004 03:48 PM (GMT)
I think it'd be easier to name the s3 episodes I don't like :lol:

Well, Scratch 'n' Sniff is practically my favourite episode of the whole series, but I also love Into The Lion's Den and Revenging Angel and Different Destinations and Infinite Possibilities and Green Eyed Monster and.... you get the picture. :)

Yours?

melian - October 5, 2004 03:55 PM (GMT)
All of the above, plus most of the rest of the season :D

willowroolz - October 5, 2004 03:57 PM (GMT)
It's an astonishing leap in quality and consistency. As much as I've moaned about the unevenness of the second year, without the Crichton-goes-mad arc the third season wouldn't have had the momentum that it does. Rich rewards for us all round.

melian - October 5, 2004 03:59 PM (GMT)
It was a stroke of genius to have the chip removed in the second season ender but to leave Harvey in Johns head!

willowroolz - October 5, 2004 04:02 PM (GMT)
Yeah, that was a surprise, and a welcome one. Without it Harvey couldn't have propped himself up on John's knee and played Home On The Range on his harmonica :lol:

melian - October 5, 2004 04:10 PM (GMT)
:lol: True. Harvey is great :thumbsup: And his presence keeps John just a little more insane than he would be without him ;)

willowroolz - October 5, 2004 09:26 PM (GMT)
It's a clever way of working a surreal edge in to the series. Some of the Harvey/John sequences from now on are just mad. :lol:

melian - October 6, 2004 09:46 AM (GMT)
Mad, but fantastic fun!!

And why have you changed the name btw?

willowroolz - October 6, 2004 02:51 PM (GMT)
Because the subheading doesn't show up on the main board index, meaning that someone could click on "Scorpy's Command Carrier" and enter the spoiler thread without knowing they were doing it.

melian - October 6, 2004 04:40 PM (GMT)
My, my. You think of everything don't you :D

willowroolz - October 7, 2004 08:42 AM (GMT)
If that was true I wouldn't have called it that in the first place :lol:

melian - October 7, 2004 08:54 AM (GMT)
:lol:

You think of everything eventually ;)

laughitupfuzzball - November 5, 2004 12:10 PM (GMT)
:D I'd just like to add, just how talented is Ben Browder, Green Eyed Monster is such a good examination of their relationships. For a first time stab at writing its excellent:) :thumbsup:

melian - November 5, 2004 12:39 PM (GMT)
Yep, I agree Alex!!

And can I just add how gorgeous he is as well :lol:

willowroolz - November 5, 2004 01:06 PM (GMT)
:rolleyes:

John Quixote is very good as well. :thumbsup:

laughitupfuzzball - November 5, 2004 03:56 PM (GMT)
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    And can I just add how gorgeous he is as well 
B)

Of course, I like the sad - hurt eyes look :D

willowroolz - November 5, 2004 04:00 PM (GMT)
Right, if you lot are going to go off on one about Crichton I'm gonna do Claudia Black. :innocent: :evil:

laughitupfuzzball - November 5, 2004 04:09 PM (GMT)
I'm hoping that my Avatar is going to work for this one.

How about Gigi? :lol:

willowroolz - November 5, 2004 04:16 PM (GMT)
I'm not complaining! :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - November 16, 2004 10:48 AM (GMT)
SPOILER **************

Harvey debate

On the one hand Harvey is a great addition to the show, particularly comedy and surreal wise however on the other hand for me he takes away some of the edge of Scorpius.

Obviously they are very different although both manipulative however with Harvey trying to befriend John and helping him out its hard not to relate some of that to the real Scorpius.

If however Harvey hadn't existed would we hold the same interest in Scorpius, great bad guy but would we just want him dead. In part the invention of Harvey gives us a little sympathy towards him and generates more interest in the character.

Personally I say yay to Harvey although I don't think he should have become quite such a comedic element.(Even though he is funny)

willowroolz - November 16, 2004 11:41 AM (GMT)
In a way I agree. Harvey's place as something of a comedic element did detract from Scorpy's menace. The other side of that is that Scorpy's obsession with the wormhole information and, therefore, John basically put him into a position where he also became irreversibly contaminated, imo, which opened him up to become an ongoing part of the story even if the Peacekeepers weren't involved, i.e. for most of season 4.

laughitupfuzzball - November 16, 2004 12:37 PM (GMT)
Very true, Scorpius makes his first mistake in trusting Crichton perhaps because he is blinded by the wormhole technology being within his reach, however he still manages to manipulating the crew into accepting him whereas Grazya never stands a chance.

You are right, had he had stayed in the strong posistion leading the command carrier the only place for him in S4 would have been chasing Moya again which would have repeated previous seasons. Good point :D



willowroolz - November 16, 2004 04:13 PM (GMT)
Yes, and if they'd left him in that position he would have become more of a joke, I think. How good can he be if he can't catch Crichton in three seasons? :lol:

Which is pretty similar to what they did with Crais, too, although his motives were slightly different, i.e. to get control of Talyn.

I think also once they realised how popular Scorpius was and how good Wayne was in the role they just had to find a way to get him more involved, too. :)


laughitupfuzzball - November 16, 2004 04:31 PM (GMT)
:D Well Crichton did make a joke of the Peacekeepers but I haven't seen PK wars yet so they may have improved
:)

willowroolz - November 16, 2004 04:38 PM (GMT)
You haven't seen it yet? :rolleyes:

(Have I rubbed it in enough yet, Alex? :lol: ;) )

laughitupfuzzball - November 16, 2004 05:34 PM (GMT)
;) :) :lol: :lol:

You are too cruel :lol:

willowroolz - November 16, 2004 09:14 PM (GMT)
Me cruel? Never! I'm a pussycat. :whistling:

Going back to the favourite finale thing, the image from Farscape that always immediately springs to mind is the shot of Scorpy standing on the stairs in his command carrier with the water casacading down the steps around him. It's such a memorable shot, even iconic. :thumbsup:

laughitupfuzzball - November 16, 2004 09:20 PM (GMT)
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Going back to the favourite finale thing, the image from Farscape that always immediately springs to mind is the shot of Scorpy standing on the stairs in his command carrier with the water casacading down the steps around him. It's such a memorable shot, even iconic


Don't you feel proud of Farscape at that moment. It does have to be one of the best scenes filmed - ever!



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Me cruel? Never! I'm a pussycat.


Well I'm a lion, grrrrr

:lol: :lol:

willowroolz - November 16, 2004 09:22 PM (GMT)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Again, it's down to the way they control the budget. Some of the things they achieve in the latter stages of this season, on a tv budget, are just miraculous.

And I've always liked the fact that they blow up big things at the end of each season. :lol:

Oh, and I always feel proud of Farscape. People just don't know what they're missing when they give up after a few episodes.

laughitupfuzzball - November 17, 2004 10:54 AM (GMT)
:lol: I must admit that at the end of Season 3 I was screaming Nooooooooo at the tv :lol: :lol:

willowroolz - November 17, 2004 11:23 AM (GMT)
It is a hell of an ending :thumbsup:

And I'm sure we all echoed John's last line :o :lol:

laughitupfuzzball - November 17, 2004 11:58 AM (GMT)
:lol: :lol: Bless him and yes :lol: :lol:

willowroolz - November 22, 2004 10:19 PM (GMT)
OMG! Do you know, I hadn't watched Incubator since seeing the end of Season 4, and I'd totally forgot about the Scarran flowers in it. How brilliant is that? I know Kemper always planned a season ahead, was this just a little clue as to what was to come?

laughitupfuzzball - November 22, 2004 10:25 PM (GMT)
:lol: I remembered actually because it made such a big impact on me I suppose. That and I'm a sucker for detail. I'm the sort who lavishes the galleries on DVD's and look at every last bit of detail zooming in on things etc.

Again I wish it was me set/creature building, I have to do something about this.

Yes masterstroke, definetely a clue for us by Kemper. I'm sure he had it ticking over. Genius :thumbsup:

willowroolz - November 22, 2004 10:28 PM (GMT)
It makes me wonder how many other little touches I've missed or forgotten about. As soon as this rewatch is over I'm starting again :lol:

We should start our own creature shop. :lol:

No, seriously. People here are always picking holes in things, if we think we can do so much better then let's go and do it. Hell, I've got nothing better to do. :ph43r:

laughitupfuzzball - November 22, 2004 10:34 PM (GMT)
:lol: Yay

Well Crichton tells D'Argo about his first time in Losing Time and we don't see it until season 4. More excellent continuity.





:thumbsup:

willowroolz - November 22, 2004 10:37 PM (GMT)
Yeah, that's a good one. :thumbsup:

willowroolz - November 24, 2004 09:28 AM (GMT)
The most interesting thing that came out of the Relativity commentary, for me, was Peter Andrikidis letting slip that Talyn John was, in his words, the "clone". I guess I'd always assumed that, because the John that survives has to be the real one, but it's the first time I'd heard anyone mention it.




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