Title: 2.15 Won't Get Fooled Again
willowroolz - September 12, 2004 09:49 PM (GMT)
John's back on Earth again somehow... Or is he? Maybe he's just having that big psychotic breakdown that's been heading his way like an express train. Or, maybe not...
Persephone - September 17, 2004 12:41 PM (GMT)
Wasn't sure where this was heading. It would seem to soon, to do another is he/isn't he on Earth ep again. Didn't think they could pull it off, but there are too many funny scenes, not to think they have.
Aeryn as a nurse, okay not so weird, could be explained. Aeryn as a nympho, c'mon John get a grip. ;)
LMAO at Zhaan, as the psychiatrist, in full on blue mode :lol:
D'Argo as a wideboy astronaut, Chianna, as an astronaut groupie :lol: :lol:
Scorpy as a jazz drummer :lmao:
I've got to say, loved it.
Okay, so John wakes up to find himself back on Earth, supposedly one week, after crash landing with the Farscape module. Throughout the episode, John encounters members of Moya, in bizarre circumstances. Throughout the episode, the encounters get weirder and weirder, resulting in John becoming a full on whack job, and getting even more insane.
As if it couldn't get any worse, John keeps seeing Scorpy. What he doesn't realise, is that Scorpy is real, and everything else, is an illusion by the Scarrans, to drive Crichton insane. Okay a pastiche almost, on a previous Farscape episode, but with a twist, and with an explanation, as to the visions of Scorpy, John has been having for a while. A chip in his brain, containing the essence of Scorpy :o
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How good is Ben Browder, with the acting insane :lol: :lol:
I'd just like to point out how good BB looks in jeans :thumbsup:
willowroolz - September 17, 2004 03:52 PM (GMT)
Yay, Lisa's back! :thumbsup: ;)
willowroolz - September 17, 2004 03:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Persephone @ Sep 17 2004, 01:41 PM) |
Okay a pastiche almost, on a previous Farscape episode, but with a twist, and with an explanation, as to the visions of Scorpy, John has been having for a while. A chip in his brain, containing the essence of Scorpy :o :o |
This is the part I hinted to you about waaaaay back on the old board when you asked if you should give the series a go. There have been little hints all the way up to this point that Crichton hasn't been himself, that he's going a little bit insane. Now the truth comes out.
willowroolz - September 17, 2004 08:42 PM (GMT)
Officer Gordon (Crais): Freeze, you're under arrest. You have the rights to the remains of a silent attorney. If you cannot afford one, tough noogies. You can make one phone call. I recommend Trixie, 976-555-LOVE. Do you understand these rights as I have explained them to you? Well, do you punk?
I have absolutely no idea where to start with this episode - it is a masterclass in lunacy, a bewildering mystery, a chilling revelation that has far reaching implications. It is the writers and producers pulling the proverbial rabbit out of the hat. It is the big reveal after fourteen episodes of tantalising hints. It's bold, it's brash and it is utterly bizarre.
And, above all else, it is a prime example of what makes Farscape unique. How is it that any show can be this outrageous, this complex, this disturbing, this silly and yet still advance the characters and the arc? It never ceases to amaze me.
John: This thing has gone completely off the rails...
He's not kidding. This is the episode where the insanity finally grabs hold of Crichton and won't let go. As Lisa says, it seems too soon after season 1's A Human Reaction to do another skit on the "Crichton's back on Earth - Oh no he isn't" riff, but Richard Manning's stroke of genius is to let both Crichton and the audience know, even before the opening titles, that it is all in John's imagination. He knows straight away that he's being duped. He even checks out all the things that gave away the illusion in the earlier episodes: the papers, opening the ladies toilet door. But this time the illusion goes deeper.
John: On earth psychiatrists don't come in blue.
Jane Kaminski (Zhaan): Do you have a problem with people of colour?
John: I have a contextual problem. You're an alien.
Jane Kaminski (Zhaan): Yes, that's true. But I do have a green card.
This time Crichton's shipmates aren't themselves, they are other characters within his nightmare. Zhaan's a psychiatrist; D'Argo's a space jock with a penchant for speed; Chiana's an astronaut groupy called Jessica; Rygel's D Logan - the Farscape Project's new boss; Pilot is the keyboard player in a band; and Aeryn is the quite wonderfully named Dr Bettina Fairchild, complete with huge rollers and a skirt that's split up to her armpits. And, to top it all, Crais is a cop who wear's red high heels while on duty and has a dog named Toto. The Wizard of Oz references just fly out of the script.
Naturally, Crichton has some trouble buying into the illusion.
Leslie: You've changed.
John: People change to survive.
Leslie: But did you have to lose so much? You were so innocent, so full of wonder. It's all gone. You've become callous. You've killed.
John: You can't know that.
Leslie: It's true, isn't it? That's what bothers you. That's why you can't sleep nights.
But the two (or should that be three?) most troubling characters are Scorpius and Crichton's mother, Leslie. Taking his mother first, the memory of her is obviously very painful for Crichton, and his reaction shows that. It's not made clear, I don't think, what she died from, simply that it happened some five years previously. These are quite harrowing scenes to watch, and contrast very well with the tone of the rest of the episode, adding to their impact.
John: Scorpy, you don't fit the pattern. You got no Halloween costume, got no assumed name, you're not playing a role. That suggests something to me, you're the man behind the curtain.
Scorpy, of course, is here in two guises. Firstly, and quite freakily, he is the drummer in the band. But it becomes apparent very quickly that this is just another character within the nightmare. His other self, however, is something altogether different and sinister - it is Scorpius, or at least a neural clone of him that he implanted in Crichton's brain whilst the human was strapped to the Aurora Chair. It is the season's big moment, the revelation where we finally find out why Crichton has steadily been going insane, why he has been having visions of Scorpius, why he was unable to kill him in Look At The Princess, and what those flashbacks to the Aurora Chair were all about.
And Scorpy eventually reveals to Crichton that this illusion is the work of a Scarran interrogator. The neural clone is there to get the wormhole knowledge, Scorpius is pursuing him to get hold of it, and now the Scarrans have become interested because they want to know why the half-breed wants Crichton so badly.
Things are starting to snowball and Crichton can do nothing about it. He vows to Scorpius that he will get the chip removed but his enemy immediately makes him forget about its existence, even to the extent that he can't say the words out loud.
Gary Ragal (D'Argo): I was wondering if you wouldn't mind participating with me in a little Luxan bonding ritual. Here's the thing, okay? What we need are some chains, my Qualta blade, just a little squirt of lutra oil and ooh, Chiana.
John: Chiana?
Gary Ragal (D'Argo): Yeah, she wants to watch.
The episode is, by turns, hilarious, mysterious, disturbing and then hilarious again. It has so many memorable lines that I could go on forever (oh, I have already - sorry!). The imagery is spot on and very surreal at times. And Ben Browder... Well, let's just say that if he were playing a character going insane on, say, The West Wing he would win an Emmy. He is just mind-blowingly good, pulling you into Crichton's insanity, laughing at the absurdity of it along the way, and then drawing you out with the slowly dawning horror of what is actually happening. And apparently he looks good in jeans, too. Bastard.
Scorpius: I leave you with your shipmates, John. But rest assured I'll be with you always, keeping you safe.
I've got to say, though, that the most disturbing sight in the entire episode is Rygel dressed up in S&M gear. Jeez, that is one scary scene! :fear: :lol:
Won't Get Fooled Again is an absolute work of genius, one of Farscape's very best. And I got through the whole post and didn't mention The Who. Yay me!
Anyway, I'll end where I began:
Officer Gordon (Crais), holding a dog: I like your style, hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer; theft of police property; illegal possession of a firearm; five counts of attempted murder. That comes to $29.40. Cash, cheque or credit card. (pause) Toto. (turns and walks out)
:lmao:
melian - September 20, 2004 03:32 PM (GMT)
And there is nothing more to add :D
I think I spotted 3 Wizard of Oz references, but I may have missed some.
Nit Pick - The paper John gets from the guy at the hospital is called The Orlando Herald, but most of the extras have Australian accents ;)
willowroolz - September 20, 2004 03:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (melian @ Sep 20 2004, 04:32 PM) |
| Nit Pick - The paper John gets from the guy at the hospital is called The Orlando Herald, but most of the extras have Australian accents ;) |
Why is that a nitpick? Practically every alien in The Uncharted Territories has an Aussie accent as well! :lol:
melian - September 20, 2004 03:43 PM (GMT)
laughitupfuzzball - November 10, 2004 07:14 PM (GMT)
:D This episode is so good is ridiculous! I mean how can a show like this get cancelled.
Its funny surreal and also very sad. John manages to make me cry regarding the scenes about his mother, really well done. They really screw with his mind.
The alter characters are so funny, particularly D'Argo and of course Crais in his red heels :lol: :lol:
Rygel in S&M gear :lol: :lol: :lol:
The thought of people watching this who have never seen Farscape before makes me laugh, I mean, what would you think hee hee
willowroolz - November 10, 2004 08:20 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (laughitupfuzzball @ Nov 10 2004, 07:14 PM) |
| The thought of people watching this who have never seen Farscape before makes me laugh, I mean, what would you think hee hee |
Hopefully they'd think "Wow! What's this? I must watch it again!"
Sadly I think the reverse was true :(
laughitupfuzzball - November 10, 2004 09:31 PM (GMT)
I don't actually remember my first ep. I know it was Season 1 and I remember John arguing with Rygel but I think after a couple of eps I was hooked and have watched them now so many times its gone from my memory.
Personally I think I would have liked it if it was Won't get fooled again but I suppose some people like everything signposted and explained :lol: :lol:
willowroolz - November 11, 2004 09:07 AM (GMT)
If I could've handpicked an episode to see first it would have been A Human Reaction. I think that would have hooked me in straight away. :)
laughitupfuzzball - November 11, 2004 02:45 PM (GMT)
:thumbsup: A most excellent choice although Premier is funny. Shame that the episodes that followed weren't so good.
A Human Reaction would be a good point to start ep wise :thumbsup:
Crichton Kicks - January 27, 2005 12:35 AM (GMT)
I really couldn't see where this one was going for much of the episode. In a good way I might add :lol:
Weird, bizarre, doesn't even begin to do it justice. Lisa's right, it's far too soon to do another 'Earth' episode, but they pull it off by playing into the previous episode's ramifications.
Everyone once again gets to play outside of their normal roles, which just adds to the fun as everyone gets into it.
If I were being nitpicky, I'd say my only disappointment with the episode was Scorpius' reveal re the mental clone. Personally, given the effectiveness of the closing scenes of Beware the Dog, I thought there was more mileage to be add by continuing the hints for now.
Still, a cracking episode !!
willowroolz - January 27, 2005 08:52 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Angel @ Jan 27 2005, 12:35 AM) |
If I were being nitpicky, I'd say my only disappointment with the episode was Scorpius' reveal re the mental clone. Personally, given the effectiveness of the closing scenes of Beware the Dog, I thought there was more mileage to be add by continuing the hints for now.
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I agree, in a way, although seeing as they've kept it a mystery since right back in Crackers Don't Matter, I think it was time to bring it out in the open, and it sets up the superb mini arc that closes out the season quite brilliantly :thumbsup:
laughitupfuzzball - January 27, 2005 10:38 AM (GMT)
:thumbsup: Its brilliant isn't it.
There is an awful lot going on, firstly the references back to a Human Reaction only this time his crew mates are given Earth characters whilst keeping their same appearance, my favourite has to be Crais.
All of them are winding him up which increases throughout the episode.
There are the Alice in Wonderland references again, poor John very much like Alice going down the hole.
There is the Scarran plot behind it all and the revelation about the neural clone and Scorpy's ability to read heat signatures.
Finally as the torture cranks up the scenes between John and his mother which is very emotional stuff.
It swings back and forth between emotions, at first glance its hilarious and then the dark undertones increase, Ben plays this so well. :thumbsup:
star_fury - March 16, 2005 02:20 PM (GMT)
What can you say about this episode except Wow! :thumbsup:
I really loved this episode and yet I can't think of hardly anything to say which hasn't already been said. I must however echo other people's feelings on how on earth was Farscape ever cancelled especially with episodes as good as this ? <_<
Excellent, hilarious , mysterious and fun. :thumbsup:
laughitupfuzzball - March 16, 2005 06:16 PM (GMT)
:tear: :tear: :no: Why indeed.
It is one of my favourites, totally stunning episode, I wonder if we will get to see Ben show off his acting abilities as good as this again, I hope so. :thumbsup:
Im_Here - April 10, 2005 12:09 PM (GMT)
this episode is so stupid and ridiculous but absolutely brilliant at the same time, this episode really shows chrictons human side and gives loads of chances for him to use his sayings and quirks, thought it was hilarious where rygel was in leather standing over john with the whip! LMAO
such a good episode, really sets up the rest of the season and on after that! :thumbsup:
laughitupfuzzball - April 11, 2005 05:38 PM (GMT)
:thumbsup: Its starts off quite fluffy and then gets more and more emotional. Bizarre and fabulous :)
willowroolz - April 12, 2005 09:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Im_Here @ Apr 10 2005, 01:09 PM) |
thought it was hilarious where rygel was in leather standing over john with the whip! LMAO |
That was just scary :lol:
Bakhesh - June 8, 2005 02:43 PM (GMT)
Just rewatching this one (I know I'm at w**k, but there not giving me anything to do, and I had the MPG on my laptop).
Forgotten how good it was. Funny and stupid, whilst being moving and disturbing. The Oedipal scene is particularly :fear:
I watched "A Human Reaction" this morning, and they w**k so well together.
willowroolz - June 8, 2005 02:49 PM (GMT)
I can't believe you get to watch Farscape - or anything else for that matter - at w.ork, Nick :o
It's not fair! :cry:
Do you want to swap jobs? :shifty:
Bakhesh - June 8, 2005 06:40 PM (GMT)
Normally I'm fairly busy (despite all the posting I do), but the last few weeks there has been nothing to do. Well, there has been stuff to do, but my boss is crap at delegation, so he ends up doing it all himself. I've mentioned I'm quiet several times, but nothing has turned up. Got my schedule for next week, and I've only got one days worth of w**k out of five.
Shouldn't complain I suppose. It means I can sit in the sun. Just wish I could go home.
Anyhoo, got so bored, and I had the cd's on me, so I thought may as well get a copy of farscape running in a small window. I wear headphones in the office, so no-one noticed (except when I sniggered at the odd funny line).
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
willowroolz - June 9, 2005 07:55 AM (GMT)
God forbid anyone walked up behind you and caught a glimpse of Rygel in his bondage gear :lol:
Your w.ork situation sounds similar to mine, I have a lot of time on my hands, as you can probably tell :whistling: